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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 9:50:25 PM | message detail
Oh hey Jinjo

Didn't expect to see him there.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/13/2009 9:50:27 PM | message detail
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Talk about SSBM/FFX all over again.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 9:51:06 PM | message detail
I'm not at all sure about that.

I'm dead certain about that one.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/13/2009 9:51:48 PM | message detail
I'm not at all sure about that.

30% against FFVII > 50% against SM

Also most Mario Kart fans would probably support 64.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168
ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 9:51:51 PM | message detail
Yeah, give me MK64 > SMK, too.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 9:53:11 PM | message detail
Looks like Mega Man X is gonna finish plenty ahead of Sonic 2 as well.

Sonic 2 vs. Mega Man 2?
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lightsout06 | Posted 5/13/2009 9:54:03 PM | message detail
im sure about MK64 > SMK
MK64 put that game series on the map. i would vote for MK64 if Goldeneye was not in the match.
Have not played FF7 so cant vote for it. i only played FFIX - FFXII
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 9:56:01 PM | message detail
Uhhh...I guess Sonic 2 is determined to stay above 20% here.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/13/2009 9:56:37 PM | message detail
We have no idea how strong Super Metroid is either. Using it as a basis for comparison is pointless.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/13/2009 9:58:51 PM | message detail
Link vs Everyone to me would be the ultimate test of whether pictures matter, as the match picture would have enough characters on the other side to beat him in a normal match.

Although "Everyone" is rather generic because it doesn't reference any specific character, the poll option itself could pull in votes from all of the characters on that side. I mean, someone could be voting for "Everyone" because Mario is on that side, or someone else could vote for it because Cloud is there.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/13/2009 10:00:23 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #306
Sonic 2 vs. Mega Man 2?


Sonic 2 losing to Tetris?
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BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 124 Vote: Sonic 2
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:01:26 PM | message detail
Yeah, because Sonic 2 is such a powerhouse as we can see here, getting 35% on FFVI.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 10:01:50 PM | message detail
MK64 put that game series on the map.

The original did that. It was the first kart game (or at least the first one anyone cared about), was well received, and sold an absolute ton. Mario Kart 64 probably wins directly, but they might be around equal indirectly. Either way, I wouldn't take either against Goldeneye.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:02:41 PM | message detail
So you think Mario RPG > Both? Or they fit in that neat little space between Mario RPG and GoldenEye?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 10:03:29 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:04:26 PM | message detail
Psh, 95 hours until the Perfect Storm continues!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 10:04:28 PM | message detail
I'd think about a match between Mario RPG and either of them. I wouldn't just click on Mario Kart and call it a day.
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 10:05:36 PM | message detail
I dunno. MK64 was a huge seller, too, though. It outsold OoT in the U.S. and right on par with Goldeneye. I'd take it to be a bit above SMK indirectly. I would have expected it to beat Super Metroid with some room to spare.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:06:01 PM | message detail
THERE we go. Sonic 2 under 20% and FFVI over 38%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 10:06:29 PM | message detail
Yup, Starcraft to the finals, let's do this. FFVI now over 38% and Sonic under 20%.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:06:57 PM | message detail
Yup, Starcraft to the finals, let's do this.

Wrong storm. We don't want some blizzard, son! We want the squall!
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 10:07:56 PM | message detail
let's go 40%

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 10:08:07 PM | message detail
a true blizzard would be diablo, wow and starcraft all making it to round 5 and being in the same match
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lightsout06 | Posted 5/13/2009 10:08:20 PM | message detail
since this match is so boring lets talk about tomorrow's great match.
I see FF7 winning, but not a dominant way.
The mario games has a fanbase split, and SMRPG will have a rpg split FF7. i see goldeneye advancing without a scratch.
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Lopen | Posted 5/13/2009 10:08:29 PM | message detail
FFVIII has no perfect storm!

Starcraft on the other hand will be hatred fueled it will be glorious.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:09:22 PM | message detail
Get this weak trash outta here. All Blizzard gone in round 2 book it
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 10:09:39 PM | message detail
Time for StarCraft to come in last

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/13/2009 10:10:18 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #312
Yeah, because Sonic 2 is such a powerhouse as we can see here, getting 35% on FFVI.


Don't really need to be a powerhouse to beat somebody like Pac-Man. Just easily recognized.

If it can handle Kombat, not sure why it couldn't handle Tetris.
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BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 124 Vote: Sonic 2
MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/13/2009 10:10:42 PM | message detail
Er, somebody that got what, 56% on Pac-Man? I forgot but you know what I mean!
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BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 124 Vote: Sonic 2
lightsout06 | Posted 5/13/2009 10:17:06 PM | message detail
all blizzard games will be gone i got

Zelda OoT > FF8 (starcraft loses)

SSBM > Halo1 (diablo2 loses)

RE4 > KH2 (WoW loses)

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 10:21:10 PM | message detail
Probably won't be long before FFVI is doubling Sonic 2. Wonder if it'll finish there.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/13/2009 10:38:31 PM | message detail
Go MKII!

>_>

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creativename | Posted 5/13/2009 10:50:08 PM | message detail
Although "Everyone" is rather generic because it doesn't reference any specific character, the poll option itself could pull in votes from all of the characters on that side. I mean, someone could be voting for "Everyone" because Mario is on that side, or someone else could vote for it because Cloud is there.

This is not how it would work at all. The picture is way too small for that to happen in numbers.

A picture that just had say Cloud+Snake or Cloud+Mario vs. Link would easily outdo a picture with everyone smushed together vs. Link.

And as said, "Everyone" would probably still lose to Link. Whereas a 3-way with Link/Cloud/Mario or Link/Sephiroth/Snake easily holds Link to under 50%. People just won't attribute "Everyone" to representing their boys.

It's similar to those "Is this really the best game ever" or whatever polls that people bring up - if you had a series of those the numbers would probably add up to over 200%, let alone 100%. People aren't going to vote accurately.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 11:06:30 PM | message detail
ooh a cut
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 11:34:49 PM | message detail
Another cut! Both big series games look in fine form.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/13/2009 11:35:16 PM | message detail
What the heck happened to FF6`s vote intake here?

Everyone else remains constant and it decides to drop off 50 votes.
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transience | Posted 5/13/2009 11:50:52 PM | message detail
given all the debating I'm seeing, I go like this:

MK64 >= LA > SM/SMK > Tetris = MMX > Sonic 1/2/3 >= Mega Man 2/3

MMX > Sonic 2 is obvious. Sonic 3 is worth 41% on SM/SMK; Sonic 2 is worth 38% on LA at the moment. I have a lot of faith in MK64 and am 100% sure it's stronger than SMK.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 11:55:58 PM | message detail
So, how do the Mega Man/Sonic games stack up?

MMX > Sonic 1/2/3 > All other Mega Mans

Seems weird, but that's how things look like right now.
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Lopen | Posted 5/14/2009 12:04:47 AM | message detail
Using MM3 vs FF4 as a benchmark I wouldn't be so sure about that.

MMX on top is the only basically sure thing. Sonic 3 on the bottom looks likely, too. MM2 and MM3 vs Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 I'm unsure on but I'd lean towards Sonic 1 > MM3 > MM2 > Sonic 2
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/14/2009 12:21:40 AM | message detail
Eh, those Mega Man games only had one non-awful looking performance between them, and that was MM3 in Round 1. I'm not trying to discredit it (well, not completely), but it was up against FFIV, and I think there's a limit as to how high a game like that can go. Whereas it's easy to see why MMX would be clearly stronger than the older ones, it's much harder to reason why the original Sonic would be indirectly stronger than the two sequels, especially when everyone was sure that Sonic 2 was the stronger entrant.
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:32:28 AM | message detail
OoT>Starcraft easily... Especially with FFIX in that poll...
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:33:56 AM | message detail

From: MadGamer_11 | #341
OoT>Starcraft easily... Especially with FFIX in that poll...




No. From what we saw in round 1, FF IX would have to have a darn near even split with FF VIII for SC to have a chance.. More than likely VIII just crushes IX.


OoT>FF VIII.

Bye bye Blizzard.
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:39:00 AM | message detail
Ok well anyone willing to do a sig bet with OoT>Starcraft/FFVIII?
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:42:53 AM | message detail

From: MadGamer_11 | #343
Ok well anyone willing to do a sig bet with OoT>Starcraft/FFVIII?




Yeah, happily.


How long do you want your new sig for?
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:43:15 AM | message detail
Until the quarterfinals.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:46:43 AM | message detail
Sounds fair.


Lets make it official


Obviously Ocarina of Time will be first, so lets just ignore that.


I bet that Final Fantasy VIII will finish in second.

You bet Star Craft will finish in second.

(If IX finishes in second, I will give you the win, since I will be celebrating for the next 3 years)

Sig last until the quarters (please remind me, I have a bunch of sig bets right now).


Agree?
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 5/14/2009 12:47:47 AM | message detail
Sounds delicious
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transience | Posted 5/14/2009 1:49:28 AM | message detail
I'll go with this random inequality

MMX > Sonic 1 > Sonic 2 > Mega Man 2 > Mega Man 3 > Sonic 3
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XIII_rocks | Posted 5/14/2009 3:04:25 AM | message detail
So right now is this match the closest we've ever had to 40-30-20-10?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 3:18:58 AM | message detail
LA is doing great here. All it needed was to show that it's performance last round was legit, and it is.

TP vs. LA; who ya got?

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