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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 714

Lopen | Posted 5/13/2009 8:29:34 PM | message detail
Personally I thought Mario Kart was highly rallied last time and Super Metroid just didn't care. I mean, losing the hour two before by a landslide then winning the one before by a landslide just doesn't add up. That's why I never counted Super Metroid out in this one.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:29:36 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #100
HOLY CRAP WHAT A MATCH

THANK YOU BACON THANK YOUUUUUUUU


at least one person realizes this is a good match!
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:29:51 PM | message detail
Now, as Harrich said, if people will stop bringing up stuffing accusations unless there is some semblance of evidence, we might be able to enjoy our close matches a bit more.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:30:27 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #103
Now, as Harrich said, if people will stop bringing up stuffing accusations unless there is some semblance of evidence, we might be able to enjoy our close matches a bit more.


Every final hour especially in a close match is decided by who rallies/stuffs more. Denying this is just foolish.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:30:41 PM | message detail
I don't think anyone (smart) thinks there's stuffing going on here.

Rallying for sure, but no stuffing.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:31:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, I tend to like the stats topic less during close matches, because half of the posts are OMG STUFFING!!, and the other half (at least used to be) OMG 7 VOTE CUT!!
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:31:56 PM | message detail
Every final hour especially in a close match is decided by who rallies/stuffs more. Denying this is just foolish.

We all know you believe this already. Unless you have more evidence this time, we don't need to hear the same exact thing every single close match.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/13/2009 8:33:36 PM | message detail
hmmm.. now is probably the time to cast my vote

...for DKC
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:34:16 PM | message detail
Well seems i was wrong to consider Metroid finished earlier.

Sorry Samus, i shoulda had more faith in you.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:35:37 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #107
Every final hour especially in a close match is decided by who rallies/stuffs more. Denying this is just foolish.

We all know you believe this already. Unless you have more evidence this time, we don't need to hear the same exact thing every single close match.


The only reason you deny it is since you're a CT fan and refuse to admit most of Cronos victories are from last hour stuffing.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:35:43 PM | message detail
Come on guys let's at least make this close.
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Cecil XIX | Posted 5/13/2009 8:35:48 PM | message detail
MyWorldIsCrono
Posted 5/13/2009 11:30:27 PM
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Every final hour especially in a close match is decided by who rallies/stuffs more. Denying this is just foolish.


There's a big difference between matches decided by rallies and matches decided by vote stuffing. I'd say matches decided by rally in the final hour can be the best of the contest.

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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:36:57 PM | message detail
There's a big difference between matches decided by rallies and matches decided by vote stuffing. I'd say matches decided by rally in the final hour can be the best of the contest.

Yeah, this.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:37:24 PM | message detail
Ok so you honestly think those updates Crono had against Vincent at the end were purely legit

okay, moving on then
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:38:02 PM | message detail
It's strange how Super Metroid is only up 35 votes and I feel like it's over.

And worst of all, it doesn't really bother me.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:38:10 PM | message detail
There's a big difference between matches decided by rallies and matches decided by vote stuffing. I'd say matches decided by rally in the final hour can be the best of the contest.

Yeah, like Vincent/Crono last year.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:40:03 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3301&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

yep purely rallying alright
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 8:41:40 PM | message detail
I see we're back to the old Crono vs.Vincent argumentz

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:43:12 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #118
I see we're back to the old Crono vs.Vincent argumentz


it has to be brought up if people say stuffing doesnt happen in close matches in the final hour.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:43:34 PM | message detail
250 votes in an hour? Yes, rallying can explain that, yes indeed. That's not proof it was just rallying, but that's all there is sufficient evidence to conclude from the poll updates.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/13/2009 8:43:52 PM | message detail
bah, this is over fo' real, now
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Lopen | Posted 5/13/2009 8:44:09 PM | message detail
I prefer Frog vs Axel where Frog almost cut Samus
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:44:59 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #120
250 votes in an hour? Yes, rallying can explain that, yes indeed. That's not proof it was just rallying, but that's all there is sufficient evidence to conclude from the poll updates.


dude. crono did a 40% update and massacered samus in it.
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Cecil XIX | Posted 5/13/2009 8:45:19 PM | message detail
I'm not saying that stuffing doesn't happen. I'm just saying that rallying is categorically different from stuffing and doesn't deserve to be maligned.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:45:20 PM | message detail
And Albion, I suggest you take a look at some other poll graphs- there is always high variance in the last hour and the dead zone simply because the vote totals are low. Add rallying to that and that's all the explanation you need to explain what we saw in the updates.
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creativename | Posted 5/13/2009 8:45:22 PM | message detail
I prefer Frog vs Axel where Frog almost cut Samus

Frog is the bestest ever.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:46:44 PM | message detail
Does anyone find the idea of Albion arguing about cheating ironic?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:46:46 PM | message detail
Samus - 26.83%
Vincent - 22.76%
Crono - 39.57%
Pikachu - 10.84%

that update enough is to prove stuffing.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:47:15 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #127
Does anyone find the idea of Albion arguing about cheating ironic?


>_>
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 8:48:40 PM | message detail
HOLY CRAP AT THAT UPDATE

Darth Vader
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:48:41 PM | message detail
This is the last post I'm going to make on this stupid argument: look earlier in the match, and you'll find a very similar update from Vincent. I rather doubt there was even any rallying involved in that update, while everyone can admit that Crono was rallying at the end.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/13/2009 8:49:15 PM | message detail
Samus - 26.83%
Vincent - 22.76%
Crono - 39.57%
Pikachu - 10.84%

that update enough is to prove stuffing.


I agree. Not even Samus or Vincent could pull off a 39% update during that match. I think Samus once got a 37% update, but that was like the best she could do.
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transients | Posted 5/13/2009 8:49:39 PM | message detail
HRRH looks like Nostradamus here. god damn.

Samus/Metroid never loses a close match
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/13/2009 8:51:17 PM | message detail
Every final hour especially in a close match is decided by who rallies/stuffs more. Denying this is just foolish.

It's not about how we are in the final hour as much as how we are ANY TIME it is close. Seriously, when the match has been within 300 votes for hours, who cares about a random spike in ___'s favor at 3:15 PM? This happens almost every time it's close outside of the first two hours, and it's nothing but worthless filler in my favorite topic series.

The last hour, sure, you're right to a degree (though don't go overestimating rallying's worth like you already have), but what I mentioned affects all close matches at almost every time they're close and one update favors one option over another.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:51:53 PM | message detail
Seems like Super Metroid really wanted to get beaten again next round.

Also how badly does LA die next round?
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:53:48 PM | message detail
Yup it would take a miracle for SMK to win now.
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xp1337 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:54:10 PM | message detail
I agree. Not even Samus or Vincent could pull off a 39% update during that match. I think Samus once got a 37% update, but that was like the best she could do.

Vincent got a 37.90% update in that match. Didn't look at Samus. But I'm not sure why we're having this debate.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:54:25 PM | message detail
Look for a "miracle" on this next update

n_n
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/13/2009 8:54:27 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/13/2009 11:48:40 PM | message detail
HOLY CRAP AT THAT UPDATE

Darth Vader
Sephiroth
Mario
Harry Potter


In an earlier stats topic, someone proposed a similar match, but with Sephiroth replaced with Link and Mario replaced with someone else I can't remember.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:57:12 PM | message detail
I said that would be my last post on the argument, but I'm sorry, I'll add one more here.

See how Samus beat Pikachu 26-10 in that update you posted? Earlier in the final hour, there was an update where Pikachu outright beat Samus. Random variation is that high when the votals are low, unless you're going to accuse Pikachu of stuffing now too.
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 8:57:37 PM | message detail
aw yeah Super Metroid holds on

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:57:46 PM | message detail
I wouldn't put it past that rat to stuff even when the cause is lost.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:58:31 PM | message detail
There's your miracle, folks!
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xp1337 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:58:43 PM | message detail
SMK cut, time to activate the barriers!
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:58:50 PM | message detail
Watch SMK get a 60 vote cut in the last two minutes.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/13/2009 8:58:53 PM | message detail
A come from behind win for Metroid, its things like this that keep some of these matches interesting.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/13/2009 8:59:13 PM | message detail
You thought that was something! Wait for THIS!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/13/2009 8:59:18 PM | message detail
a

From: LeonhartFour | #138
Look for a "miracle" on this next update

n_n


aww yeah
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/13/2009 8:59:20 PM | message detail
Threw SMK a last update vote to make the finish closer. Don't really care who wins though.
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ZFS | Posted 5/13/2009 8:59:29 PM | message detail
Time for some FFVI domination

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