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He's been very lax with where the pics come from; we've already had Action Figure Kratos, Fan Art Auron, Soul Calibur Lloyd (twice!), and a others I can't name across the top of my head.

CJayC had action figure Tidus in 2003, so this sort of thing isn't entirely unprecedented.
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Round 1 Auron was fan art last year. Really obvious fan art, too.

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oh, KP mentioned fan art Auron already. Whatever.

Still seems like obvious fan art to me >_>
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I'm sorry but anyone who expects SMW to actually be the favorite over FF4 next round is simply incorrect.

Certainly not saying SMW has no chance - it has a decent enough chance. But there's no way it's going to be the favorite in the Oracle. If you think it is I assure you you're mistaken.

Regarding Mario 64/Chrono Trigger/FF7/GoldenEye, I've had concerns from the start on Chrono Trigger being in trouble there. I don't think it will be it's very much possible.

I've had even greater concerns from the start on FF7 in FF7/LttP/CT/FFVI though, assuming CT makes it. FF6 is just going to get killed but all its votes should still come from FF7. CT might hold up somewhat which is just worse for FF7. LttP has an amazing shot there.
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I don't think it will be it's very much possible.

That's to say, I don't think it will lose but it's quite possible.
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FFVII is far too powerful to lose to Lttp even though FFVII will be chained down by FFVI in it's right hand and CT in it's left. Remember, the United States still defeated Italy in World War II despite being engaged against Japan and Germany.



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If the fourth entry was a neutral one like Resident Evil, I would have taken either N64 game (Mario 64 or GE - whichever one wasn't replaced with the neutral entry) in a second. That said, I think SM64 and GE will split too much. Not counting Majora's Mask, which might not deserve to be counted at this point, the N64 only had three big games.
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Kart 64 looked pretty legit. it had four!
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Yeah, 30% on FFVII is nothing to sneeze at - FFIX couldn't do that on Ocarina. I'd actually be bringing up the possibility of MK64 > 007 if it wasn't for Mario RPG.
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The GoldenEye/Mario 64 split is overstated. Same console but totally different genres. And also, Mario 64 is much stronger than GoldenEye, whereas FF7 is much stronger than Chrono Trigger.

The RPGs will overlap a helluva a lot more, and Chrono Trigger overlaps with a game stronger than it while M64 overlaps with a weaker game.

I think Chrono Trigger will win but GoldenEye is not a big factor. It might well be enough of a factor to matter, but I wouldn't bank on it.
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Hey, that's an awesome FFVIII pic! Don't think it'll get chosen with all that blood though!

FF6 is just going to get killed but all its votes should still come from FF7.

I don't think that's entirely true. We've seen Crono kill Kefka. I think CT and FFVI will probably split quite a bit, too.

Not counting Majora's Mask, which might not deserve to be counted at this point, the N64 only had three big games.

I was about to bring up Mario Kart 64, but thankfully, two other people have already mentioned it! And I'm with RPGuy. Mario Kart 64 > GoldenEye would be a sexy upset pick if Mario RPG weren't there.
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I think CT and FFVI will probably split quite a bit, too.

You're right, but you know you what I meant :) Relative to LttP.
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CT/FFVII overlap is not that big either. Vincent went from 47% to 45% on Samus when Ganondorf and Gordon were replaced with Crono and Pikachu.
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Yeah, I think CT and FFVII appeal to as different of a fanbase as you can get considering they're major Square RPGs. We've never seen any indication that FFVII and CT SFF each other in the past.

Of course, LFF is a different story. CT might just be resilient.
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I don't really trust this notion that CT/FF7 don't overlap. For one thing I'm pretty sure CT overperformed on FF7 because it was the finals - or rather, overperformed in the sense that it was able to resist the SFF it otherwise would have gotten. Today I think it gets SFFed.

As for this no indication thing, that's not really true. Crono was humiliated in the finals last year. Cloud's presence was likely the main reason for that.

Regardless, CT is definitely not a neutral entrant there like say an MGS game would be. FF7 gets the shaft there by CT's presence. Anything CT does will overweightedly hurt FF7 relative to LttP.

Also because CT should hold up better than FF6 while overlapping less than FF6, I'm not entirely sure which hurts FF7 worse - CT or FF6.
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As for this no indication thing, that's not really true. Crono was humiliated in the finals last year. Cloud's presence was likely the main reason for that.

Nah, Snake did the same thing in the finals the year before that. You've got Link, Cloud, and a character bandwagoned and rallied beyond belief. The fourth character never has a chance.
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I disagree. I think Crono's poor performance in the finals has just as much to do with Link's presence as it does with Cloud's. Regardless, though, in a LttP/FF6/FF7/CT match, FF7 will definitely have the advantage of not being 2D or on the SNES, which should cancel out LttP's advantage of not being a Square game.
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Yeah, you can't really fault Crono too much for that. I mean, he's a pretty decent step below Link and Cloud as it is, and when you throw in the Snake craziness, you're bound to get some messed up results.
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I always thought Crono LFFed Cloud a bit, enough to bring him down to the point Steroid Snake could actually sniff at him. Sure, it sounds far-fetched, but it's the best explanation I've seen other than "The Bandwagon is strong in this one" and explaining a MASSIVE overperformance by bandwagon voting. To me, saying bandwagon voting gave Snake the win by its lonesome is like saying Mario/Cloud was a victory due to Mario being just that badass. I love the plumber, but he had some more stuff going for him, and the same happened with Snake in that match.

Match XXXVII: Super Metroid vs. Super Mario Kart vs. LoZ: A Link to the Past vs. Donkey Kong Country

Last Round:

Super Metroid – 35.29%
Super Mario Kart – 35.17%
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 24.29%
Gunstar Heroes – 5.25%

LoZ: A Link to the Past – 56.24%
Donkey Kong Country – 18.01%
Doom – 17.53%
Streets of Rage II – 8.21%

Analysis

With Sonic 3 eliminated last round this becomes the first match where I am guaranteed not to get full points. This round has been brutal to my bracket; so far today’s match is the only one where I’ve gotten full points. With four Nintendo games going at it we’re bound to produce some weird results. The fight for second should be really interesting as three games are attempting to be SFF and LFF the least.

In a usual all-Nintendo match there is always one entrant that tends to dominate, though even if all the games were of different fanbases Link to the Past would still have no problems dominating this match. While it didn’t crush Donkey Kong Country as much as we expected, that was more because of Donkey Kong Country’s strength than Link to the Past’s weakness. Going up against three Nintendo characters at relatively the same strength could cause Link to the Past to push for 50%.

Despite doing so well last round Donkey Kong Country has the lowest chance at advancing. On the Nintendo totem pole Donkey Kong tends to near the bottom, though that didn’t stop it from resisting enough SFF to defeat Doom. Also for those interested Super Metroid performed better against Link to the Past in 2004 though comparing SFF matches tend to be fatal, especially ones that happened five years ago. Adding Super Metroid and Super Mario Kart will probably hurt Donkey Kong Country more than the opposite.

Currently I don’t have much faith in Super Metroid; sure it won last round, but winning by only about 150 votes means nothing in a SFF match. Also Super Metroid is already known for getting crushed by Link to the Past. Being unable to SFF Super Mario Kart is a big disadvantage as I expect Link to the Past to SFF Super Metroid more than Super Mario Kart since the two games have more in common while the other is a popular multi-player game.

Before the contest if you asked me how likely Super Mario Kart was to get second in this match I would have told you three other games had a better chance. Now it seems like it is the favourite; being a Mario game means that it will hold out to SFF better than the other two titles and while they are all Nintendo Super Mario Kart is the most different game in this poll. Of course Super Mario Kart winning is far from certain.

Nothing much to say here, you can never really tell the degree of SFF that occurs, even between rounds. Link to the Past is going to look godly in this match while the rest attempt to not be completely crushed. As I’ve already said my bracket is wrong even before the match starts though if I could redo it after watching round 1 I’d take Super Mario Kart.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: A Link to the Past > Sonic the Hedgehog 3

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: A Link to the Past – 51.47%, Super Mario Kart – 17.43%, Super Metroid – 16.42%, Donkey Kong Country – 14.68%

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As for this no indication thing, that's not really true. Crono was humiliated in the finals last year. Cloud's presence was likely the main reason for that.

The exact same thing happened to Snake the year before, so I wouldn't blame Cloud/Crono overlap for that result. CT isn't neutral, but it should overlap a lot with LTTP too- more with FFVII, but not a huge amount more. The relevant questions here are:

1. What portion of the CT fanbase are LTTP fans?
2. What portion of the CT fanbase are FFVII fans?

Intuitively, I think both answers are very high and are not all that different from an absolute percentage perspective. Or in other words, CT overlaps a lot with a lot of stuff, so CT/FFVII overlap isn't too far above its norm, what we see as its base strength against neutral opponents. The best actual evidence we have on CT/FFVII overlap is Samus/Vincent last year in rounds 3 and 4, which indicates a small amount of overlap- Vincent lost less than 2% on Samus when Crono was added.

Also because CT should hold up better than FF6 while overlapping less than FF6, I'm not entirely sure which hurts FF7 worse - CT or FF6.

I'm guessing CT will, but that's only because I see FFVI getting massacred. Being at the bottom of Triple SFF and the weakest game in the poll is never a good situation to be in.
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"The Bandwagon is strong in this one"

Heh, I'm gonna use this one :) That's good.

And that's a good point - Crono probably hurt Cloud just enough for him to lose there (and cost me to win come to think of it bah...). I had thought of that at the time but forgotten about it.

And yes, FF6 is certainly getting massacred there. It's meager percentage will still be pretty much leeched mainly from FF7, and a slight bit from CT. Not so much from LttP.
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I'm exhausted (work all day, then my lame summer class from 7-10) so I'll be brief.

I have a feeling Super Metroid takes this one simply because between it and Mario Kart, it has way more of a hardcore fanbase, which should let it stand up better against Zelda.

Though I can't say with any confidence what will happen.
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Whoo, hardcore fanbase!
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I'm feelin' an easy SMK win here to finish off a poor Metroid run. talk about a bad position it got put in.

Super Metroid's not really all that hardcore. it's just a well-liked Nintendo title that's a bit niche.
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I would defend Super Metroid to the death as would you tranny do not doubt our rabidity.
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Mario Kart is a racing game. Should stand out slightly more than the rest of the pack.
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Super Metroid hell yes 100% believe
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I thought Mario Kart was a party game?

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That's Mario Party, silly!

Whoo! SMK domination time!
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Metroid's flaw is that it can't avoid Nintendo. Not that it has always been a huge factor, but it's hard to trust it if anything else Nintendo-related is in the poll. Metroid was wrecked by SMB3 and SMB/LoZ, SM was flattened by LoZ:LttP and barely beat SMK (neverminding what happens in a few minutes), and MP didn't have as much respect as LoZ:WW and probably lost to GTA:VC because of PM...though it would have been close either way.

It didn't look hot in the Series Contest, either. It's like Samus is the only thing that's keeping the Metroid name out of the mud here, and even then we've not seen her definitively SFF anyone and Mario crushed her. It's an odd series.
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Super Metroid 33.33%

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Super Mario Kart 16.67%

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The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 33.33%

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Donkey Kong Country 16.67%

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TOTAL VOTES 6

Aw yeah, first Mario Kart vote!
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Super Metroid 28.57%

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Super Mario Kart 14.29%

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The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 42.86%

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Donkey Kong Country 14.29%

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TOTAL VOTES 7
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Kart looking like a big favorite.
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Current Score: 116
Today's pick: Zelda: LttP > Super Metroid

what is this?
a match that goes exactly as expected?


weird

Super Metroid 18.18% 2
Super Mario Kart 9.09% 1
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 54.55% 6
Donkey Kong Country 18.18% 2
TOTAL VOTES 11

Cool
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CLOSE THE POLL
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Match 37 - Bracket: LttP > Doom - Vote: SM (111/160)

Darn it, overshot again!
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Super Metroid 25.64% 30
Super Mario Kart 21.37% 25
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 42.74% 50
Donkey Kong Country 10.26% 12
TOTAL VOTES 117

Poor DKC
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Super Metroid 21.39% 37
Super Mario Kart 19.65% 34
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 48.55% 84
Donkey Kong Country 10.4% 18
TOTAL VOTES 173

Go LTTP!
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The board should be kind to Super Metroid, but this is still a good start.
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If I didn't know any better, I'd say that LttP is looking pretty weaksauce here.
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