GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 712
transients | Posted 5/12/2009 5:20:25 PM | message detail |
I
think FF4/Mario World is a tossup next round, but I can't comprehend
Mario World and Mario 3, two of the most played titles on the site,
overlapping more than FF1 and FF4. Not everyone has played early FF
titles; everyone has played Mario 3 and Mario World. --- xyzzy |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 5:20:27 PM | message detail |
Sonic will be a non-factor in that match. Whoa, I'd be way too scared to make such a claim. I'm already thinking Sonic had a wonked out performance yesterday (breaking 31% on Mario 3? Hardly anyone saw that coming.). Now you're going to sandwich "Sonic the Hedgehog" in between two Mario games. You wanna talk about the potential for some crazy stuff. I have no idea if and how it would affect the match, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic did something really weird there (in either direction). --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/12/2009 5:20:38 PM | message detail |
Mega Man 3 overlaps with FF more than Mario. The proof is the fact that MM is a night game. --- I will bury you. |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:21:33 PM | message detail |
But MM is strong at the power hour, where Mario is strong, and is awful in the dead zone, where FF is strong! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:22:15 PM | message detail |
I
think the Sonic/Mario rivalry has been dead for years, so I don't
expect any sort of wonkiness just because it's a Sonic title against
two Mario games. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/12/2009 5:23:20 PM | message detail |
In
a hypothetical LttP/FF3/FF7/CT matchup, LttP has no chance to advance.
If anything, the SFF is going to go FF7's way, not LttP's, given that
FF7 is the only 3D game and the only one not on the SNES. The fact that
Old Square characters hold up to SFF from New Square characters and
their almost polar opposite trends suggest that they are fairly
independent fanbases anyway. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:23:20 PM | message detail |
If
Sonic overperforms (it might), I doubt it will be at the cost of the
Mario games any more than it will be at the cost of FFIV. Nintendo fans aren't about to vote for Sonic over Mario- it'll be Sonic's own fanbase that does that. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:24:00 PM | message detail |
In a hypothetical LttP/FF3/FF7/CT matchup, LttP has no chance to advance. Oh really? --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 5:24:25 PM | message detail |
Hah, so now we're saying Sonic overlaps the same with Final Fantasy as Super Mario? Yeah, time to bail on this conversation. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:25:11 PM | message detail |
Okay,
you're going with three games that over 90% of the site has played
against a game that we're lucky if 70% of the site has played. Hmmm... --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
transients | Posted 5/12/2009 5:25:14 PM | message detail |
Sonic
doing well (aka not being SFF'd) strikes me as being beneficial to FF4
- FF4 seems guaranteed a certain percentage of votes since it's the
only RPG there against three platformers. any votes that Sonic gets are
votes that Mario 3 or World would have been likely to get instead. I hate analyzing these dumb fourways argh --- xyzzy |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:25:15 PM | message detail |
No, what I'm saying is there's no reason for any wackiness created by the Mario/Sonic rivalry to hurt Mario more than FF. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:27:59 PM | message detail |
70%? FFX, FFVI, and CT don't have 70% playrates. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 5:31:04 PM | message detail |
I
think very few games outside of the big Marios and Tetris do. Not even
Ocarina of Time does according to the 2005 poll, which leads me to
believe that nothing outside of the big Marios and Tetris does. --- Yoblazer: http://i37.tinypic.com/x1d2s9.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 5:31:25 PM | message detail |
And I was referring to 90% playrate. --- Yoblazer: http://i37.tinypic.com/x1d2s9.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 5:36:51 PM | message detail |
Ugh, we've gotta wait two weeks until this match? --- Yoblazer: http://i42.tinypic.com/avk9ie.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:37:44 PM | message detail |
It's okay. There are still plenty of matches to debate that will be over within five minutes until then! Such as tomorrow's! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 5:38:14 PM | message detail |
i
dont see why ocarina of time not having a 90% playrate is surprising.
It was on the losing system of its gen saleswise, so not everyone had
the chance to play it compared to NES and SNES titles --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 5:39:15 PM | message detail |
I
don't think there's an interesting match until Division 5. And then
from Division 5 onward there's a bunch of interesting matches. woo generational split --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/12/2009 5:40:08 PM | message detail |
and Mario won only three 15-minute updates against Crono all day. He probably won more 5 minute updates though. I can see SMB3 and SMW splitting evenly in Round 3 and FF2 being too weak to capitalize, sort of like Sonic 3 failing to do anything against Smetroid/Mario Kart. As we are seeing today, same franchise SFF is quite possibly the worst kind of SFF you can have. The two Final Fantasies are killing each other here. As for the upcoming SMB3/SMW match, I don't think the two games will be killing each other to give FFIV first place. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:40:53 PM | message detail |
CT/Mario 64 could be interesting if CT bombs. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:43:36 PM | message detail |
Even if CT bombs, which I wouldn't expect, Yoshi's Island is there to hold Mario 64 back. If Mario 64 can get close, that would make it look pretty good for the next round, but, like I said, I don't expect that. CT should do pretty well based on its first round match. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
transients | Posted 5/12/2009 5:45:32 PM | message detail |
Mario 64 can't touch CT this round. time to see if some same franchise action can hurt Mario 64 enough to give SOTN a chance (nah) --- xyzzy |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 5:47:16 PM | message detail |
If it does, except a full day of PLAN topics. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2009 5:47:29 PM | message detail |
After seeing MM3 against SMW, I doubt SMW2:YI holds SM64 back much. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/12/2009 5:47:47 PM | message detail |
Expect a full day of PLAN topics anyway! --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:49:28 PM | message detail |
CT/Mario 64 could be interesting if CT bombs. Chrono Trigger has already beaten four Mario games. You expect a fifth one to beat it now? And CT did too well in round 1 to make me entertain the possibility of "bombing," regardless of how well Mario 64 did. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
transients | Posted 5/12/2009 5:49:49 PM | message detail |
well, seeing as CT's already stronger than SM64, it can't help! --- xyzzy |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 5:50:30 PM | message detail |
Gah, I forgot that SM64 SFFs SoTN as well. Too much of its strength comes from Alucard Kart. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:51:01 PM | message detail |
All part of the Plan. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/12/2009 5:51:23 PM | message detail |
How funny would an SMW > FF4 > Mario 3 result be? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 5:52:01 PM | message detail |
One of the best games ever losing is never funny. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 5:52:16 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #281 it would be awesome, though if Mario 3 doesnt place, it would be ff4 > SMW from the massive lff between the mario titles --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 5:52:34 PM | message detail |
It would be considering SMW is so much better and deserves to be recognized as being so! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 6:01:27 PM | message detail |
SMW just doesn't wanna hit that 54% mark --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 6:02:06 PM | message detail |
How funny would an SMW > FF4 > Mario 3 result be? It would mean a whole day of Albion laughing at us all. Not that I would mind that! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/12/2009 6:07:52 PM | message detail |
Thankfully, smiling Squall is a CG and is thus ineligible! Hah, just noticed this. CG is perfectly acceptable. The pic rules stipulate official art, official materials, or in-game screenshots. CG falls under the third category, and even if it somehow didn't, Bacon would probbaly accept it anyway. He's been very lax with where the pics come from; we've already had Action Figure Kratos, Fan Art Auron, Soul Calibur Lloyd (twice!), and a others I can't name across the top of my head. So if anyone had the inkling...well...all I'm saying is you'd better hope no one is as cruel as Zen can be! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Lopen | Posted 5/12/2009 6:10:32 PM | message detail |
After seeing MM3 against SMW, I doubt SMW2:YI holds SM64 back much. After seeing FF4 against FF1, I don't. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/12/2009 6:11:24 PM | message detail |
And I'm pretty cruel. *FLASHBACK* http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/squall_red.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/squall_urangex0.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/squall_green.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/squall_blue.png http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/squall_turkwaz.png *FLASH* ....good times. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/12/2009 6:11:40 PM | message detail |
So,
CT vs SM64. Given the way that this match is going, that SMW ~= SM64,
and the fact that CT and FF2 share a similar fanbase (though CT
>>>>>FF2), that match warrants some consideration. Anyway, I am not so sure that Chrono Trigger is that much stronger than SM64. CT's first round performance was impressive, but it really does not tell us much. After all, it was a four-way SFF match; not only were they all SNES games, but they were all released in 1995, as well! More importantly, these 2 of these other games are horribly weak. I would take Kirby Super Star over Earthbound with room to spare 1 on 1. The only game in CT's poll with any semblance of strength in CT's poll is Yoshi's Island, and we have no idea how strong it is. The only data we have is a favorite Mario poll 6 years ago in which YI was outperformed by SMB2, which does not exactly inspire confidence. SM64 did about 10% worse, but its competition was a lot more legitimate. SOTN is a legitimately popular game, Resident Evil is the first game in a popular series, and Kirby Super Star, while weak, is still a tier above Earthbound. Moreover, these are all several distinct fanbases that have appeared on 3 different consoles, and the only one that should have been subject to significant SFF is Kirby. I am not saying that SM64 > CT this round is likely, given that Yoshi's Island is there to hold SM64 back, but it still remains a possibility. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 6:12:33 PM | message detail |
It
would help for YI to be much stronger than it is, but at this point,
I'd expect 85/15 (kinda like what we're seeing now between Mario World
and MM3) before I'd expect the split to endanger Mario 64. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/12/2009 6:12:43 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/R2MGS2.png MGS2 gets first place in its match y/n --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
Lopen | Posted 5/12/2009 6:13:31 PM | message detail |
Oh god best match pic ever 1st place confirmed. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/12/2009 6:14:16 PM | message detail |
has anybody even submitted a MGS2 pic? because if they haven't and that gets on the front page it's SWEET VICTORY of course MK8 probably submitted something so it ain't happening. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
Lopen | Posted 5/12/2009 6:14:26 PM | message detail |
Needs a bit better lighting though Kleenex. Use your mad Photoshop skillz to brighten it a bit. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 6:16:19 PM | message detail |
Go ahead and hype Mario 64 people; it will make CT's victory all the sweeter and more impressive to you guys when it happens. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Lopen | Posted 5/12/2009 6:19:00 PM | message detail |
It
would help for YI to be much stronger than it is, but at this point,
I'd expect 85/15 (kinda like what we're seeing now between Mario World
and MM3) before I'd expect the split to endanger Mario 64. Even presuming the split is that bad, seeing that FF1 + FF4 is looking weaker than just FF1, it could be damaging. I don't think it'll be that bad as Mario isn't "the status quo" that I think a statement is being made against today, but I still expect around 90% of SMW2's votes to directly damage SM64. Today's match should make you wonder if SotN has a chance once more more than being worried for CT. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/12/2009 6:19:10 PM | message detail |
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/12/2009 6:19:39 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/R2MGS2-1.png Brightened up and ready to go. --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
Lopen | Posted 5/12/2009 6:21:12 PM | message detail |
Now we've got a winner. Match of the contest if that thing gets accepted. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |