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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 712
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/12/2009 9:10:24 AM | message detail |
Mario World and FF4 came out within a couple months of each other. Not that there's any SFF going on there, but still. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/12/2009 9:11:32 AM | message detail |
If people can believe that CT SFF SMW then it's possible that SMW SFF FFIV. Not that I believe in either... --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FFIV Points: 105/152 |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/12/2009 9:12:21 AM | message detail |
Extrapolation
is a fairly reliable method. Reliable for something you wouldn't think
would be subject to transitivity to that level anyway. Don't put it
down it because there are a few people that just look at them and go
higher=better lol without knowing how those numbers even came about --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
SmurfFAQs | Posted 5/12/2009 9:12:45 AM | message detail |
1991 SFF confirmed. --- (\__/) Meet Ziggy,the Evil Bunny who wants to take over the world and eat the flesh of the weak. (='.'=] Put Ziggy in your sig to support his cause. |
Ness26 | Posted 5/12/2009 9:14:07 AM | message detail |
It's obvious they are SFFing since if SMW wasn't there then FFIV would have more votes. --- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/12/2009 9:16:30 AM | message detail |
It's obvious they are SFFing since if SMW wasn't there then FFIV would have more votes. Due to the lack of a fourth entrant... Besides if one game gains a larger portion than the others it would be Mega Man 3. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FFIV Points: 105/152 |
SmurfFAQs | Posted 5/12/2009 9:16:33 AM | message detail |
I agree because there would be only 3 options so its only natural some of the 52% who voted world would transfer to FFIV --- Smurf 60% of the time he's awesome every time. |
Ness26 | Posted 5/12/2009 9:19:52 AM | message detail |
Sorry, that was intended to be taken as heavy sarcasm. I guess I need to be more blunt. --- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/12/2009 9:21:30 AM | message detail |
I think Smurf and I knew it was sarcasm or else we would have torn you apart. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FFIV Points: 105/152 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 9:25:42 AM | message detail |
Seems like SMW is still holding up well. May end up over 53% after the asv --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/12/2009 9:47:08 AM | message detail |
From: Ness26 | Posted: 5/12/2009 12:14:07 PM | #105 I assume this is sarcasm, and rather genius sarcasm at that. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/12/2009 9:47:21 AM | message detail |
From: Ness26 | Posted: 5/12/2009 12:19:52 PM | #108 yesssssssssssssss --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
MnMZero | Posted 5/12/2009 10:04:30 AM | message detail |
I think Smurf and I knew it was sarcasm or else we would have torn you apart. Suuuuuure you did --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
MnMZero | Posted 5/12/2009 10:10:38 AM | message detail |
I
think the people in this topic have always undermined Mario World more
than it deserves. SMB3 might have had the bigger impact but World was
the better game. I really don't know which way the voters would swing
on the matter but either way I don't think there's a lot between them. I don't think SMW is being undermined. I know it was 5 years ago, but we have a direct performance comparison against Chrono Trigger and it wasn't even close. I don't see anything within the last 5 years that would change any of this. And before you call SMW/CT SFF, remember that all of the SMB games have a big presence on the SNES due to Super Mario All-Stars. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
Big Bob | Posted 5/12/2009 10:11:31 AM | message detail |
SFF all comes down to "How likely is it that people have played both games" If both games came out on the same system in a relatively short time span, yes, it's reasonable to assume there's some SFF involved. Sure, the game are completely different, but it's not like the target audience was -that- different. Not to mention both games were re-released on the GBA as well. It's more reasonable than saying Auron could SFF Kefka because they're from the same series, despite being two generations apart. --- Curses! Sig foiled by 7 votes. The Force grows ever stronger in creativename |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 10:11:40 AM | message detail |
And before you call SMW/CT SFF, remember that all of the SMB games have a big presence on the SNES due to Super Mario All-Stars. This.... is a really bad point. A lot of series have had collections on different systems. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
MnMZero | Posted 5/12/2009 10:18:58 AM | message detail |
This.... is a really bad point. A lot of series have had collections on different systems. Uh, Super Mario All-Stars became packed in with the SNES after its release. And look at its sales numbers. It simply being a collection on another system wasn't the point I was trying to make. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 10:19:46 AM | message detail |
Technically,
games like Mario 1, Mario 3, and Mario World are going to have overlap
with just about every NES and SNES game because nearly every NES and
SNES gamer played all three. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 10:20:32 AM | message detail |
Super Mario All-Stars was a pack in? I never knew that --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
MnMZero | Posted 5/12/2009 10:25:43 AM | message detail |
It started becoming a pack-in with SMW all on the same cartridge actually. SMW + Super Mario All-Stars. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/12/2009 10:26:07 AM | message detail |
I think the people in this topic have always undermined Mario World more than it deserves. Really? I was not aware that the people in this topic were secretly trying to sabotage SMW. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 10:28:10 AM | message detail |
I'd
call for a Mario 3 overperformance before making a case for any
significant SMW/CT SFF. Chrono Trigger had just taken out the two
biggest SNES Nintendo games, and the way it beat LttP must have been a
real slap in the face for those Nintendo fans. I was pretty surprised
Mario 3 performed so close relative to LttP. I don't think a match
between those two would be close. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/12/2009 10:30:03 AM | message detail |
From: MnMZero | #120 It actually started as just a standard pack in. Both games, 2 separate carts. I still have both of them in my room. It would be a couple years down the line line before both games came on the same cart, which is probably the best single cartridge ever made in gaming. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
MnMZero | Posted 5/12/2009 10:34:27 AM | message detail |
I
don't see why not, especially indirectly. LttP isn't untouchable, and
Mario 3 has already shown that it can handle a Zelda game. As for revenge against Chrono Trigger... you think that many people who voted for SMW and LttP wouldn't have voted for SMB3 if Chrono Trigger hadn't beaten those two games earlier? This isn't Cloud/Sephiroth where those Link voters were forced to vote for the lesser of two evils... --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 10:34:46 AM | message detail |
Technically,
games like Mario 1, Mario 3, and Mario World are going to have overlap
with just about every NES and SNES game because nearly every NES and
SNES gamer played all three. You are very right about this; it's why I expect SMB3/SMW LFF is going to be much more gentle than the FF1/FF4 LFF we're seeing here today. I'm not going to dismiss CT/SMW SFF out of hand, but it's far more likely that the overlap in that match was just part of the games' base strength. Look at CT's other opponents: Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG, A Link to the Past, Mario 3, Final Fantasy VII. Super Mario World does not stand out here as having more overlap than usual to CT....less than average, if anything. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 10:39:00 AM | message detail |
I'd
call for a Mario 3 overperformance before making a case for any
significant SMW/CT SFF. Chrono Trigger had just taken out the two
biggest SNES Nintendo games, and the way it beat LttP must have been a
real slap in the face for those Nintendo fans. I was pretty surprised
Mario 3 performed so close relative to LttP. I don't think a match
between those two would be close. I don't see any reason to believe this at all. I think Mario 3 and Mario World's performances on CT are legit, and I see no reason to think otherwise. It's not like LTTP performed out of this world last round. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 10:39:00 AM | message detail |
I
used to think LTTP was untouchable to any Nintendo game besides OOT,
but SMB/LoZ changed my mind on that. No reason why the gap between LTTP
and SMB3 shouldn't have been as close as it was, and I wouldn't trust
LTTP to lay the SFF hammer on SMB3 either....I'd expect it to win, but
it probably wouldn't be domination. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/12/2009 10:43:49 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | Posted: 5/12/2009 1:39:00 PM | #127 I've been thinking the same thing. In 2004 I would have picked LTTP > Mario 3 without a moment's thought, now I'm not so sure. Mario 1 completely embarrassed Zelda. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/12/2009 10:44:05 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #127 I'm on the other side here. I expect ALttP to dominate it so much that it will be completely irrelevant that LoZ is even in the match. We have seen how the SFF hammer falls on Mario when he is against Zelda that is stronger. It is crushing. While I would not expect OoT/SM 64 numbers, I do expect them to be in that vicinity. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 10:46:24 AM | message detail |
There's
a big difference in the gap between LTTP and Mario 3 and the gap
between OoT and Mario 64. I'd expect little to no SFF when the games
are that close in strength. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/12/2009 10:49:44 AM | message detail |
From: Meeks54 | #129 You would be wrong. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB3 > SFII - Points: 108 Vote: SMB3 |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/12/2009 10:50:00 AM | message detail |
I've always maintained that 1vs1 SMB3 vs Lttp, SMB3 eeks out a win. Though it would be pretty close either way. --- I will bury you. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 11:20:36 AM | message detail |
aww yeah, 58% update from SMW. I think we're getting to the asv --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:24:26 AM | message detail |
Mario World actually did better with the DSV than the ASV last round, for what it's worth. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/12/2009 11:24:56 AM | message detail |
Who cares about Mario World, let's talk about how much LttP is going to destroy its match tomorrow. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:26:00 AM | message detail |
Let's talk about how Mario Kart is going to take second place! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/12/2009 11:26:27 AM | message detail |
That's a given and pretty boring imho. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 11:26:32 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #134 Well, I can't see any of these games taking advantage of the asv outside of mario world Who cares about Mario World, let's talk about how much LttP is going to destroy its match tomorrow. I'm thinking 60%. Triple SFF --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 11:27:02 AM | message detail |
LTTP beats down all the Nintendo games so badly we all ask ourselves how in the world Doom didn't manage to place last round. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/12/2009 11:28:20 AM | message detail |
From: MarioSuperstar | #131 We shall see in the Semi Finals. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/12/2009 11:31:32 AM | message detail |
damnit leon I will not let your LttP percentage outdo mine --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:32:47 AM | message detail |
LTTP - 99.99% --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 11:34:58 AM | message detail |
Speaking of which, I don't think we've brought up the FFVII/FFVI/CT/LttP scenario since this match started. Fear. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:36:24 AM | message detail |
FFVII still wins because 25% of the site picks it for favorite game, and FFVI, CT, and LTTP all split! Fear. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/12/2009 11:37:40 AM | message detail |
Dude you're using the list. That is so gross. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 11:38:17 AM | message detail |
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/12/2009 11:38:35 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #145 Didn't the poll after the first BGE final say the same thing? --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:38:46 AM | message detail |
Oh,
and I personally believe there was a good chance CT overperformed on
Final Fantasy VII in the finals last year. It went 50/50 with it for
the first hour of the match, a la Cloud/Kirby or something similar to
it we've seen in the past. Not saying it did, but considering it went 50/50 with FFVII for the first hour when OoT got destroyed from the start...I know CT generally has a great board vote and FFVII has an awful one, but still. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/12/2009 11:39:11 AM | message detail |
Last year? Five years ago! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/12/2009 11:46:59 AM | message detail |
I've
thought that a long time for both CT and SSBM. That seemed to imply MGS
and Goldeneye being very underrated indeed though, and that doesn't
seem to have panned out. Of course, that could just mean they weren't
SFF'd as badly as we thought. CT and SSBM probably didn't overperform
that much though....the real bandwagoned game that year was Starcraft-
had it beaten SSBM and gotten its dream match 2 days later against
FFVII, on Saturday.....it could have been interesting, maybe something
like Link/Snake. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
