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woah, bacon was in one of the other topics?
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From: MoogleKupo141 | #051
woah, bacon was in one of the other topics?

yep
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he was, what did he say?



and jesus poor Metroid.
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"I didn't state anything publicly that I don't personally believe in. 1 vs 1 is dull and always has been. Generations make for more interesting matchups (SMB has no chance against most modern games for example, but it can do pretty well in the current bracket)."
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this poll reminds me why generation divide was total crap,even rayman 2,crash or spyro or a ratchet and clank game would be doing better here.
heck gran turismo 3 would surely get more votes than what metroid has right now.
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"I didn't state anything publicly that I don't personally believe in. 1 vs 1 is dull and always has been. Generations make for more interesting matchups (SMB has no chance against most modern games for example, but it can do pretty well in the current bracket)."

Wow

his beliefs are really lame ;>_>

If 1 v 1had always been dull, no one would be interested in the contests in the first place.

and generations only make for more interesting match-ups if you decide you need to affirmative action old games into the contest in the first place. Most of this division simply wouldn't make the contest had he not done stuff by generation.
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Uh...LoZ is still a top 10-ish game people.

More overreacting absurdness from the stats topic. Good grief. When did the stats topic get like this.

Obviously there's a bit of SFF here, indirectly these two games are quite close (even with SFF LoZ is going to push 46% here). SMB is top 10ish and LoZ is right there with it, they're neck and neck with some SFF just like it was easy as hell to foresee beforehand. We just weren't sure whose side the SFF seesaw would tip in favor of.

LoZ is still beastly, this changes nothing except for the "what have you done for me lately" crowd. It's like people don't comprehend how strong both these games are - they're freakin' animals. You'd think we'd all know this by now?? How I even have to point this out is beyond me :| The division finals will be a massacre, not much different than today.

Can't believe that the #1 SMB>LoZ pre-contest guy (really, the only vocal one, I don't even remember anyone else actually expecting that pre-contest) now has to defend LoZ's performance here. Sheesh...
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a top 10 game wouldnt be being massacred by a game that didnt even make the field last time
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http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=34

Also, this really isnt that big of an upset. only 60% of the people had LoZ > Mario. This was closer to a "Toss up" pre contest then anything
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This is the result I've been waiting for. Although I'm sad I don't have it in my bracket. But thinking outside of contests, one would think that the original Super Mario Bros. is a far more popular game than the original LoZ. Everybody played and loved SMB. Which game is used as the classic ring tone? Which is the one all over pop culture? Bring up "warp zone" in a conversation, and 65% of the people you talk to will know exactly what you're talking about (okay I totally pulled that one out of my ass). This result shouldn't be surprising to anyone...

BUT, you just can't ignore that LoZ got 43% on SMB3 in 2004. That is the result that blows my mind. I would have never thought that LoZ could even approach SMB3 in popularity. But apparently it did. I guess I chalked it up to a mixture of franchise voting and Zelda as a series just being more popular on GameFAQs than normal. Leading up into 2004, I honestly thought that the Zelda series didn't get massively popular until OoT. SMB always seemed more popular than LoZ. And as much as I love LttP, I never would have thought that it was the most popular SNES game. Yet, there LoZ and LttP were in 2004 dominating the relative competition.

Anyways, that 43% on SMB3 is what caused me to take Zelda 1 over Mario 1 in this contest, although it's good to see SMB dominate the match like this.
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Yeah, I'm not feeling bad about having FF4 go super far. I still think we're in for a ton of SFF-crap in these later rounds, so at the moment, FF1 worries me more than the big Marios and Zelda 1.

You seem to have a similar bracket as me. I have FF4>LoZ in the quarters. Have little clue what actually happens there though. Lots of SMB/SMB3/LoZ SFF, but SMB should crumble...yet almost all it's votes should still leech from the other two...very hard to say. LoZ, FF4, and SMB3 could place in almost any order.

The big risks in my bracket were FF4, FF8 lasting to round three (now it looks like I didn't take it far enough), and SMB winning this division. The only final rounds thing I'd change right now is probably RE4>MGS4, probably to MGS4>...uh...something.

woah, bacon was in one of the other topics?

No he was just quoted from feedback or something.
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I don't know how people think of 43% on SMB3 as that impressive. LoZ obviously a few points stronger than that indirectly. If it wasn't for the fact that we know it was SFFed against SMB3 I'd say 43% against SMB3 just wouldn't be enough to hang with SMB1.

I don't think the 43% was considered all that impressive at the time, although with the SFF not that surprising. LoZ was wrecking house before that though, I thought it had some shot against SMB3. I think that was my pet upset pick for that contest too - LoZ>SMB3.
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I guarantee you corporate execs called for the four-ways. On first-hand account.
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This result is beautiful and I feel like a moron for not predicting it.

That is all.
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God this match was a toss-up.

As for the guy who had Super Mario World > Mega Man 3, uhm, doesn't Mega Man share a fanbase with other Nintendo characters? Though I guess it IS true that Mario didn't SFF Mega Man X.

Even so, Mega Man 3 lost to Final Fantasy IV by about 15,000 votes. I don't think it will advance. And here is my favorites bracket based on these round 2 results.

Round 2
Tetris > Mega Man 2
Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Street Fighter II
Super Mario World > Final Fantasy IV
Zelda: A Link to the Past > Super Metroid
Final Fantasy VI > Sonic the Hedgehog 2
GoldenEye > Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger > Super Mario 64
Metal Gear Solid > Pokemon Red/Blue
Zelda: Ocarina of Time > StarCraft
Final Fantasy X > Kingdom Hearts
Halo > Zelda: Wind Waker
Metal Gear Solid 3 > Oblivion
Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2
Super Mario Galaxy > Grand Theft Auto IV
Metal Gear Solid 4 > Fallout 3
Round 3 and onwards
Super Mario Bros. > Tetris
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario World
Zelda: A Link to the Past > Super Metroid
Chrono Trigger > Super Mario 64
Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid
Halo > Final Fantasy X
Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2
Super Mario Galaxy > Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario Bros.
Chrono Trigger > Zelda: A Link to the Past
Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid
Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2
Chrono Trigger > Zelda: A Link to the Past
Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid
Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Chrono Trigger (final)

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I think this is gonna be one of those matches the brackets easily picked Mario > Zelda. Kinda like the SF2/Sonic match. Its common sense that Mario would win, but we overanalyze it with stats that say otherwise instead of just going with what makes the most sense
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Here are some more vote total-related stats.

Tetris's vote total this round was about 65.36% of its vote total last round.
Donkey Kong's vote total this round was about 55.65 of its vote total last round.
Mega Man 2's vote total this round was about 79.53% of its vote total last round.
Pac-Man's vote total this round was about 50.98% of its vote total last round.

Looks like Pac-Man and Donkey Kong were hugely hurt by Tetris coming in. Also, Tetris had a rather drastic decrease in vote totals from last round to this round, suggesting that it is, indeed, falling, and who knows what will happen when "legit" competition comes into the picture. However, Tetris still managed to break 40k votes.

As for my say, Super Mario Bros. and Tetris are the only two games from this division which deserve to win the entire contest. They have aged the best out of all games from this division.

After really getting into SF2, I'm glad it was the biggest embarrassment of the contest. Complete joke game, and it ruins the series in much the same way Brawl ruined the Smash series. All those idiots at Capcom had to do was make SF2 with updated graphics.

So what do they do? No concept of hitboxes or blocking, too much damage on all the moves and completely ****ty graphics/soundtrack/mechanics. The game literally has no saving grace; easiest 1/10 I've given to any game in years. What a goddamn ****ing joke.
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After really getting into SF2, I'm glad it was the biggest embarrassment of the contest

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You meant "getting into SF4" right Ulti?

Make this easier for those of us who aren't sober/straight

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is ulti really saying that sf2 ruined the street fighter series

nobody even knew what the damn series was before sf2
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Hitboxes aside Some of Gief's nonsense seem fine to me.


and if youre complaining about too much damage on SF4, how the hell did you live with 2 0_o?
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SF4 seems fine to me. Its just SF2 with better graphics and some stuff added to make the fighting a bit more deep.
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I'm not so sure about calling LoZ a top ten game. There are only so many spaces available (ten to be exact, ahem), and it seems like we now have seven of them pretty locked down. There are a lot of games in contention for those last three spots.

1. FFVII
2. Ocarina
3. Chrono
4. LttP
5. Mario 3
6. Melee
7. Mario 1

8-10. Zelda 1, Zelda: TP, MGS, Pokemon, FFX, FFVIII, Brawl Mario 64, Mario World

Not terribly hard to pick three of those over the original LoZ.
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Hell, I'd take all of them except for TP at this point over LoZ.
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I can't imagine Zelda 1 as a top 10 game. I've never been able to put it in that class.

I'm also pretty sketchy about locking Mario 1 into that #7 spot. I'd pick FFX over it, I know that.
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I gotta say, I'm becoming more and more surprised that people don't consider FFX a lock for the top 10, and more specifically that 7th spot. It had a great showing, one that puts it right on par with Melee.

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I probably wouldn't put it at seventh, but I think top ten is fair for Mario 1 right now. This is a very solid performance.
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it's a nice performance on a game I wouldn't expect to approach the top 10. maybe you have a different opinion on Zelda than I do, but I never saw it as being even as strong as it looked on Mario 3, and that was five years ago - five years that have probably not been kind to an outdated game like Zelda 1.

the sad thing is that we'll never be able to substantiate any of this because we can just hide behind the convenient SFF excuse.
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SF4 seems fine to me. Its just SF2 with better graphics and some stuff added to make the fighting a bit more deep.

Thats pretty much what it is(though it adds some 3 stuff...in a way), except it twinks 1 thing that really erked me with SF2(and its incarnations) that Street fighter 3 I thought did perfectly.

Input timing.
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From: Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted: 5/10/2009 5:12:14 AM | #081
SF4 seems fine to me. Its just SF2 with better graphics and some stuff added to make the fighting a bit more deep.

Thats pretty much what it is(though it adds some 3 stuff...in a way), except it twinks 1 thing that really erked me with SF2(and its incarnations) that Street fighter 3 I thought did perfectly.

Input timing.

One mistake and you eat 60% damage. What the hell happened to third strike's damage scale? It's impossible to get off more than one ultra in a match.
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even with this result, I like Zelda moving on in round 4.

So do I, and my bracket depends on it because I have Mario 3 getting to the finals due to LoZ/LttP splitting.

I think Mario 3 can survive the Mario 1 LFF because I think that's personally Mario 1's absolute worst possible opponent. Mario 3 seriously has every possible advantage against it except for being the progenitor of the series. It's not going to be a 50/50 split, I don't think.

And FFX is basically becoming a top 10 game by process of elimination. Many of the games we expected to contend for that spot have worked themselves out of discussion.

More overreacting absurdness from the stats topic. Good grief. When did the stats topic get like this.

Oh, it's always been like this! I think the absurdness of the format accelerates it though!

And what the heck is it with Ulti hating long-awaited fighting game sequels? And you're basically the ONLY person I've heard say anything resembling that to Street Fighter IV.
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One mistake and you eat 60% damage.

Right, basically SF2 <_<
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One mistake and you eat 60% damage.

This could happen in any SF game if the player was good enough, not just SFIV!

Heck, this could happen if any fighting game period.
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I'd pick FFX over LoZ, but I'm not sure I'd take it over SMB. I'm not even saying that I think FFX falls into the relatively narrow gap between the two NES games - I just now feel that Mario 1 is a weird entry.
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Which game is used as the classic ring tone?

Oddly, I recently heard somebody with a LoZ-ringtone -- finding a secret on the NES, to be exact.


Anyway, I'm glad this upset came through for me! I argued hard for it pre-contest, and after crap like EB I needed this. Yeesh...

...so which game was the biggest snub in 2004, Super Mario Bros. 1 or Final Fantasy 8?
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Actually, that kind of damage would happen in 3S, and especially in New Generation.


I remember when I played Yun like a dirty miscreant in New Generation against comp Alex, He hyper Bombed me, lost over 85% of my health.

KO obviously.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

...so which game was the biggest snub in 2004, Super Mario Bros. 1 or Final Fantasy 8?

FFVIII is my bracket baby, but I'll give a slight edge to the biggest game of all time. =P
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Well. My gut said Mario when I was picking this match (and the one in the next round!) but in both cases I thought "no, Zelda always wins in these contests".

Why don't I listen to you more, gut =/
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 5/10/2009 5:19:16 AM | #083
even with this result, I like Zelda moving on in round 4.
And what the heck is it with Ulti hating long-awaited fighting game sequels? And you're basically the ONLY person I've heard say anything resembling that to Street Fighter IV.

You might think Seth having unblockable moves is good game design, but I don't. When you have 19 years to make a sequel, I expect it done correctly.
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Ulti, every final boss of every fighting game is cheap. Tell me one thats not
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Master Hand

Wait, sometimes he whistles for Crazy Hand. What a ****ing bastard.
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #092
Ulti, every final boss of every fighting game is cheap. Tell me one thats not

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Hmm, Mario almost doubled Zelda that update... a bit early for the morning vote isnt it?
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You might think Seth having unblockable moves is good game design, but I don't. When you have 19 years to make a sequel, I expect it done correctly.

Why the hell wouldn't Atomic Buster be unblockable?

thats the only one he has thats ublockable. Only lame/cheese ones are his Ultra and that kick thing (which is aparently supposed to be Ken/Ryu's kick, tatsumaki senpuu kyaku. Why I know how to say it dont ask)


Compared to Your everyday SNK boss and harder CAPCOM bosses, Seth is Tame.
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At first, Seth was really tough for me (I lost as Dhalsim like 40 times), but then I got him and pretty much get him on the first try every time now... I can't say the same about the damn DOA4 boss
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Seth is annoying as crap but compared to like Akuma or Bison he's not THAT bad.
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Yeah, Seth is just annoying, but hes not " What the hell just happened?" or " Thats so lame".

Just annoying.

Once you find his pattern he's easy with some people.
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