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creative, I'm not sure why you think RBY vs. SMB/LoZ is obvious. I can see the case for Mario and Zelda, but.....just how weak do you think Majora's Mask is?
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Replace the other two entrants with say... Pokemanz RBY and Halo and I think LoZ might actually beat SMB.

Spin spin spin

What? I'm not spinning anything! I have SMB winning in both my analysis and my bracket, this is what I always assumed would happen. I'm just saying you can't take these blowouts among old games to mean much.
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I'm kind of with Lopen on this one. I don't think SMB suddenly collapses under pressure or anything, but it probably does worse against stronger competition.

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are we still arguing over Pokemon? really?

well, if you insist - I'd take RBY to be on par with Mario 1, which I think could be close to the top 10. but it's impossible to tell based on 20 year old games.
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I'm also mad as hell about this bracket setup. I wanted to see how old games would fare against new games. I theorize that a game like Final Fantasy X would plaster the holy hell out of a game like Legend of Zelda. But we won't know because once again we got a bracket by era.

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I know this board loves its Pokemon, but I'd give both LoZ and SMB the favourite against RBY. This massive over estimation needs to stop.

Why is your solitary underestimation of RBY so much better then everyone else's that it gives you the right to treat us all like mouth watering loons? It is not a massive stretch, it is you being the sole Pokémon underestimater. You want to give LoZ and SMB the nod over RBY? Good for you, really, but accept you're the minority and get over it.
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Seriously.

I'm not going to get into Pokemon again (seriously worse than WoW arguments at this point), but that performance on Majora's Mask looks less and less impressive each day. Crying ZELDA after seeing Wind Waker and now Zelda 1 get crushed ain't doing much for me, and I know it's not doing it for other people either. But whatever -- we'll know what's up with it soon.

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Well, you're assuming there's a large voter pool that's never played Mario 1. I think you're wrong there. A poll just a couple of years ago says that only 5% has never played it.

Sure, but "played' is different than "really liked" as well. How many of those 95% of people do you think played the game when it was cutting edge in the NES or SNES era? People who played it way after its heyday are not going to stay along with it for that long, which is my point here. And I'd be pretty shocked if even close to 95% of GameFAQs has played LoZ, and forget the other two.
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Wow! Unless Zelda spends the rest of the day making this more respectable, I wasn't expecting it to be this wide open!
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BTW, yesterday was our lowest vote totals yet... even lower then Fallout 3 > Halo 3

Maybe people are just sick of 4ways?
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Ah yeah, finally in 99th percentile.

And grats to hochi for the leaderboard!
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Today's pick: SMB > Zelda

From: Lopen
Well, you're assuming there's a large voter pool that's never played Mario 1. I think you're wrong there. A poll just a couple of years ago says that only 5% has never played it.

Sure, but "played' is different than "really liked" as well. How many of those 95% of people do you think played the game when it was cutting edge in the NES or SNES era? People who played it way after its heyday are not going to stay along with it for that long, which is my point here. And I'd be pretty shocked if even close to 95% of GameFAQs has played LoZ, and forget the other two.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2662
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I'm not going to get into Pokemon again (seriously worse than WoW arguments at this point), but that performance on Majora's Mask looks less and less impressive each day. Crying ZELDA after seeing Wind Waker and now Zelda 1 get crushed ain't doing much for me, and I know it's not doing it for other people either. But whatever -- we'll know what's up with it soon.


Thank you ZFS. You are a voice of reason. This is why I gave you a spot in my league of excellence.

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Just about everybody has played SMB. We all know that.

The only game that really wrecks it with SFF is SMB3. It probably even holds up decently against OoT, though I'm not sure about that.

And hail Ed Hochuli

Huh?

just how weak do you think Majora's Mask is?

Weeeaaaak.

I'm getting pretty weak myself from Pokemon fatigue :)
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And yeah, this is very, very big from Mario. Such a shame that it's got an awful opponent so (relatively) early. If you put it as far away from Mario 3 as possible, it could have caused some insane havoc.
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Well, I may have predicted the match wrong (so far), but the game that should win is winning, and that's fine with me. TO HELL WITH MY BRACKET!!!

I currently have 97 points in my bracket and 101 if today's match keeps up. I have 103 points in my predictions and 107 if today's match keeps up.

Well, I'll predict tomorrow's match! But we shall recap previous results first.

Sonic the Hedgehog - Sonic is one of the greatest games ever made, hands down. I mean, offering a platformer that was brimming with attitude was a great idea back in 1991, and Sonic 1 is also famous for showing that Nintendo wasn't overly dominant in the industry like we thought it was. And after unfairly being snubbed from the last contest in favor of its "superior" sequel, Sonic 1 surprised many by beating Street Fighter II by about ten thousand votes. Cool stuff.

Street Fighter II - Another title respected mostly due to its place in the industry. Offering a memorable multiplayer experience wasn't a big aim for most games of the day, but Street Fighter II did just that, and basically defined a genre. It, just like many other games of the day, is still quite fun to play today. Unfortunately, SFII's contest history can be summed up in one phrase. WTF SFII LOST???

Super Mario Bros. 3 - Perhaps the best Mario game, with all those crazy powerups, and a world map for the first time, and loads of minigames. And portraying Bowser's air force and navy was quite the achievement for the NES. SMB3 is one of the "Super Six," and nothing more needs to be said. After kicking ass last contest (save for burning up against Chrono Trigger I guess) Raccoon Mario managed to set a percentage record for these four-way matches, and also managed the highest vote total of the entire contest. 'Nuff said.

The Secret of Monkey Island - Okay, it was nice to see Monkey Island gain a victory on GameFAQs at last, but seriously, being able to advance to round 2 without breaking 10% is an even more undeserved round 2 showing than Scorpion's round 4 showing back in the first contest! I respect Monkey Island for breathing an entire era of point-and-click adventures, but this is just, well, bad.

Okay, so let's analyze. Mario 3 will most definetely take first place here, possibly even CONVINCINGLY. After that, most are talking about how Street Fighter II will advance because of Sonic the Hedgehog choking at Nintendo opposition. Well, uh, won't SFII feel SFF as well? I also think that Sonic 1 will more likely overperform against Mario 3 rather than feel SFF heat; I mean, it's an NES Mario game against a Genesis Sonic game, and Genesis does what Nintendon't! Okay, I was admittedly kidding about that last sentence, but Sonic 1 beat SFII by about ten thousand votes last round, and Mario 3 shouldn't SFF Sonic 1 THAT much. Yeah, Sonic's got this. And, uh, hi Monkey Island. Methinks that game will get held to a REALLY low percentage today. Yeah, let's go for, uh, something ridiculously low there.

Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog - 25%, Street Fighter II - 17%, Super Mario Bros. 3 - 45%, The Secret of Monkey Island - 3%
Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Street Fighter II
Favorites: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Street Fighter II
Favorites Bracket: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Street Fighter II

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Book this one. It's cooked and ready to be eaten.
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Prediction: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog - 25%, Street Fighter II - 17%, Super Mario Bros. 3 - 45%, The Secret of Monkey Island - 3%

Oh c'mon, the hardcore monkey island fans can get it over 3% lol
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Crying ZELDA after seeing Wind Waker and now Zelda 1 get crushed ain't doing much for me,

Melee is in the top 10 games. SMB is definitely top 15. Are you really surprised that some of the strongest games in the contest made a mid tier Zelda game look weak?

I think everyone is thinking that all these games are close together in strength. They're not. There is a clear divide between these upper echelon of games and the weaker games. RBY is definitely a part of the strongest games here, and just because it destroyed an untested Zelda game does not make it weak, or make us RBY supporters seem deluded.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2662

Whoo, awesome.

Those poll results are just as I expected...!
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it is you being the sole Pokémon underestimater.

Nah, he's not the only one.

You want to give LoZ and SMB the nod over RBY? Good for you, really, but accept you're the minority and get over it.

And I'm not sure Mario 1 > RBY would be the minority at this point.
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And I'd be pretty shocked if even close to 95% of GameFAQs has played LoZ, and forget the other two.

There aren't any polls relating to the playrate of the original Ninja Gaiden or Metroid. Last night, I tried to compile a list of playrates for various games and posted the list here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=49249744&message=541778740
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Eh, I honestly think these 2 games are still close, I think LoZ is on the ass end of some good old fashioned SFF here.
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52% indirectly.

20 people fell off the Top 50. expaniol, Xeybozn, octoblinky, Spikedross, RockMFR, Xuxon, CloudCloudCloud, The_Destoyer, E_Gadd, BrockSamson2099, Tendo128, SenelCoolidge, Galahad5, DarkProto05, Bleak5, leo3leo, Axem_King, bumpo, andylt and GameCuber018 did not have Tetris > MM2 as yesterday's winners.

9 people scored half points and lived. Former first place metroidcomposit, Mirrorzzz, Hybrid_Osiris, 80Starfire08, _gloomy, lololesecond, Megamanz777, Xcarvenger and Mac_Arrowny also did not have Tetris > MM2 as yesterday's winners.
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SMB > RBY > LOZ for me. SMB would beat RBY because of it's influence and play-rate, while RBY will beat LoZ for the same reasons.
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I think everyone is thinking that all these games are close together in strength. They're not. There is a clear divide between these upper echelon of games and the weaker games. RBY is definitely a part of the strongest games here, and just because it destroyed an untested Zelda game does not make it weak, or make us RBY supporters seem deluded.

I'm not saying Pokemon is weak. I think it's going to end up being fairly strong, but it is getting overestimated in here based on little to nothing. It's fine if you think Pokemon is going to be strong, but there is absolutely reason to doubt its performance, especially in the face of everything we've seen since then. Top 10 is far from guaranteed until we see it again, against competition that isn't 100% Nintendo.

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You want to give LoZ and SMB the nod over RBY? Good for you, really, but accept you're the minority and get over it.

And I'm not sure Mario 1 > RBY would be the minority at this point.

Who the hell said this? Someone thinks that would be the minority??

RBY people are just more vocal maybe, but the consensus would certainly favor both those games by far.

And "get over it" - heh, funny. I'd love too actually but Pokobession is being shoved down our faces ages before the match even takes place! :o)

I don't mean to be mean, but really, can't this talk just wait?
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Although before anyone takes that the wrong way, I do think Pokemon's going to end up being a strong game. At this point, I'd be surprised if it ended up outside of the top 15 (which would still be plenty strong), just that this top 10 talk is far from concrete right now.

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Yeah, let's wait until Pokemon faces something that ISN'T Nintendo before we draw definite conclusions about its strength. We've seen characters take advantage of SFF situations to look better than they really are.

And BEFORE I GET LYNCHED, just let me say that this is entirely hypothetical. I'm not saying RBY is weak, but it's relatively untested.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/10/2009 12:35:00 AM | message detail
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Heh, I wasn't aware of that page. But it's missing the playrates for Halo 3, Melee, and Brawl.
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Eh, I honestly think these 2 games are still close, I think LoZ is on the ass end of some good old fashioned SFF here.

Oh without question.

But then one of these games winning comfortably was easy to see coming, we just weren't sure which one it would be.
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The RBY talk will end now. I am fed up with this. We have one match. One. Do you guys remember Tifa/Vyse? Samus/Lara Croft? Vincent/Kerrigan? Final Fantasy/Diablo? Shut up this instant about Pokemon until we have data. It is NOT in the top 10 until we have data to the contrary. Do I make myself clear?


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Yeah, let's wait until Pokemon faces something that ISN'T Nintendo before we draw definite conclusions about its strength. We've seen characters take advantage of SFF situations to look better than they really are.

Is GS not a pretty good indication?
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GS being so close to MGS is enough for me.
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RBY people are just more vocal maybe, but the consensus would certainly favor both those games by far.

...Nothing anyone has said so far would suggest this. At best it's an even split; if anything RBY seems to be the slight favorite (at least over Zelda).

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Zelda is also dropping like a rock. Zelda is flopping all around.

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From: hochiminhX | Posted: 5/10/2009 12:28:19 AM | #355
I'm also mad as hell about this bracket setup. I wanted to see how old games would fare against new games. I theorize that a game like Final Fantasy X would plaster the holy hell out of a game like Legend of Zelda. But we won't know because once again we got a bracket by era.

Bacon actually mentioned in a feedback to me how it would be unfair to the older games if they were in polls against new games. Let me find it.
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Now Mario is going up again. Well then.....I am floored by this match. Zelda can't even make it close.....
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And lost in all this...

Tetris 53.14% / 15.55%
Mega Man 2 24.48% / 12.80%

MM bracket strength strikes again!

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Ooh very interesting.

Only 75% for FF7 3.5 years ago - it fell 6% in 2.5 years. Might be under 70% now.

FF7 certainly weaker than it was in 2K4 (although only marginally), but the new games just aren't strong enough to take advantage. And other older games will have dropped or stayed stable as well.
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MM2 only had 37%? What else could have finished in there?
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Is GS not a pretty good indication?

Yes, but do we know how strong MGS is or how much stronger RBY is than GS?
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"Bacon actually mentioned in a feedback to me how it would be unfair to the older games if they were in polls against new games. Let me find it."

Yes please. Find it or ask TRE, Ulti, I want to see how SMB3 gets killed by Left 4 Dead according to SBallin'. :rolleyes:

I didn't state anything publicly that I don't personally believe in. 1 vs 1 is dull and always has been. Generations make for more interesting matchups (SMB has no chance against most modern games for example, but it can do pretty well in the current bracket).
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MM2 only had 37%? What else could have finished in there?

Pac-Man had a higher prediction percentage in round 1 than MM2, so I'm guessing that.
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I didn't state anything publicly that I don't personally believe in. 1 vs 1 is dull and always has been.

Bacon speaking the truth
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