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Common freakin' sense. RBY is just not as strong as LoZ, and it's mad to think it is.

Common sense is the absolute worst argument anyone can ever make.

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So... anyone thinking SMB1 might actually be stronger then SMB3?
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Common sense is the absolute worst argument anyone can ever make.

Oh get real. Come on now.
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Common sense paid off for me here! Whoo, Mario 1!
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RBY is just not as strong as LoZ, and it's mad to think it is.

Whaaat.

Pretty confident RBY would be beating even SMB here, but keep making bold assumptions based on percentages in closed Stone Age fodder environments
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So... anyone thinking SMB1 might actually be stronger then SMB3?

Nope. Not yet, at least.
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So... anyone thinking SMB1 might actually be stronger then SMB3?

Oh, there's no way it beats Mario 3 directly. That's another instance where common sense dictates otherwise. I could see it not being far off indirectly.

Well, we'll find out in a couple of rounds.
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"So... anyone thinking SMB1 might actually be stronger then SMB3?"

Nope, not buying it, but they'd probably be damn close indirectly. Directly, though, it'd be a brutal SFF beatdown...though I don't know who would benefit from it.

Just came in, nice SMB, lol Metroid.
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Pretty confident RBY would be beating even SMB

As Michael Cole would say, "Vintage Lopen"
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There, Zelda is up to 44% now, better than it did on SMB3. I'm going to guess it finishes around 48%.
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1. An obvious match. I told you all but you were all like "OMG Zelda LOL!"

2. SMB3 is still stronger. SMB is probably 3-5% weaker than SMB3.

3. Zelda disappoints. Again.


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There, Zelda is up to 44% now, better than it did on SMB3. I'm going to guess it finishes around 48%.

48%? How?
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As Michael Cole would say, "Vintage Lopen"

creative, you are pretty much the only one who thinks RBY vs. LoZ/SMB isn't a debatable match. Quit acting like BT.

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I was wrong about Metroid dropping continuously after the board vote looks like - though double digits would be a moral victory for it.

Since LoZ should increase with the day I don't think Metroid makes it.
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Despite this fantastic performance, Mario 3 still kills Mario 1 in a direct match. I'd be interested to see what happens against Mario World or Mario 64, though.
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There, Zelda is up to 44% now, better than it did on SMB3. I'm going to guess it finishes around 48%.

That's a lot of gaining. I'm thinking 46-47% tops here.
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It went up 3% on SMB3 with the day. Trends are different here with the start time change, but I figure it can swing a bit more than that here- much of that will be in the next couple of hours, and the rest come morning.
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My analysis perfectly predicted this match. I have no reason to believe that SMB isn't just crushing things because 30% of the voters don't care enough about any of these games and are just tossing SMB respect votes.
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"Despite this fantastic performance, Mario 3 still kills Mario 1 in a direct match. I'd be interested to see what happens against Mario World or Mario 64, though."

I'm betting 10 to 1 on SFF, but that's obvious. IMO, WITHOUT that, SM64 wins and everything else gets curbstomped.

Also, I, Hochiminh, leader of the League of Excellence am now on the leaderboard at #48. I will catapult very high tomorrow since I have SMB > LoZ.
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I have no reason to believe that SMB isn't just crushing things because 30% of the voters don't care enough about any of these games and are just tossing SMB respect votes.

And SMB will continue to get those respect votes. The way you're describing them makes them sound like apathy votes. I don't think that's what this is.
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Apathy works in round 1 against Galaga/Duck Hunt/Ninja Gaiden. Not against Zelda.
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Mario 1's bleeding percentage like crazy right now though.
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Zelda I would so look like a third tier Zelda if it wasn't facing dead NES classics it can SFF the crap out of using its name recognition.
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Not even 10%? What is wrong with you people? At least SMRPG and Goldeneye moved on.

From: hochiminhX | Posted: 5/10/2009 12:19:08 AM | #321
Also, I, Hochiminh, leader of the League of Excellence am now on the leaderboard at #48. I will catapult very high tomorrow since I have SMB > LoZ.

yessssss
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I have no reason to believe that SMB isn't just crushing things because 30% of the voters don't care enough about any of these games and are just tossing SMB respect votes.

And SMB will continue to get those respect votes. The way you're describing them makes them sound like apathy votes. I don't think that's what this is.

Won't get them against SMB3 though!!
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Match 34 - Bracket: Zelda > SMB - Vote: Zelda (95/136)

They are apathy votes, though. Respect only goes so far. If there are actually games you really like in the poll, those votes are lost. They'll always exist to some extent, but not to the degree where it'd be moshing LoZ. Replace the other two entrants with say... Pokemanz RBY and Halo and I think LoZ might actually beat SMB.
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SMB has this but seems it won't be as decisive a win when this is over
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creative, you are pretty much the only one who thinks RBY vs. LoZ/SMB isn't a debatable match.

Then let me rephrase that to....out. yo. damn. mind(s) :)

Quit acting like BT.

Oh stop, I'm not acting anything like that, and certainly not in an unwarranted spot. Mind-boggling bandwagons that continuously derail discussions are quite annoying and I'd just prefer to see less of them.
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And SMB will continue to get those respect votes. The way you're describing them makes them sound like apathy votes. I don't think that's what this is.

I agree. If SMB's this strong due to respect votes, the amount of games above it to SFF it this way probably isn't very high.
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This is starting to remind me of...

QUICK! Someone get the Crono/Vincent comparisans!

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SMB losing steam...
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SMB is dropping like a rock. LoZ is going to make this look respectable once this is done.
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Mario's gains on Zelda: 139, 91, 71, 48
Crono's gains on Vincent: 149, 79, 74, 51
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I'm rooting for Mario here, but how epic of a collapse would it be winning by 12.5% at the freeze and losing?
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I may be a little drunk right now, but I'm pretty sure I'm seeing SMB kicking the ever living crap out of Zelda. Who was arguing to me about this again?
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Oh, there's no way it beats Mario 3 directly. That's another instance where common sense dictates otherwise. I could see it not being far off indirectly.

Yeah, this performance doesn't really have me convinced at all.

There, Zelda is up to 44% now, better than it did on SMB3. I'm going to guess it finishes around 48%.

I actually predicted SMB to be scoring 50-51% on Zelda directly, assuming no SFF. This was for my Guest write-up for the Analysis Crew.

2. SMB3 is still stronger. SMB is probably 3-5% weaker than SMB3.

If you took the took the number of votes that SMB and SMB3 got in their matches, you would end up with this:

Super Mario Bros. 3 52.46% 89416
Super Mario Bros. 47.54% 81024

But because SMB had a tougher fourpack than SMB3, I figure that SMB3 would get slightly less than 52% on SMB if there was no SFF.
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"Respect votes"? I'm not sure I accept this "explanation". Why do you people insist on making up excuses when you fail to see an obvious match. When Tales of Symphonia beat God of War and cost me a lot of points I didn't make excuses. There is no such thing as a "respect" vote. If you like a game, you're giving it a "respect vote" anyways. I call for an immediate end to this "theory".
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Mario's gains on Zelda: 139, 91, 71, 48
Crono's gains on Vincent: 149, 79, 74, 51

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Match 34 - Bracket: Zelda > SMB - Vote: Zelda (95/136)

Oh stop, I'm not acting anything like that, and certainly not in an unwarranted spot. Mind-boggling bandwagons that continuously derail discussions are quite annoying and I'd just prefer to see less of them.

RBY got 63% against a mid-tier ZELDA game (for reference, Melee got 64% against WW) and 80% against two N64 games that shouldn't have been that weak.

RBY may be overrated, but calling the respect for it a 'mind-boggling bandwagon' is just being closeminded and letting your own expectations run your train of thought.

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...What? Losing steam? It's gaining 50 votes per update. That's brilliant! Sure, it isn't going to be an Ulti-style destruction, but nobody expected that (except for two or three people). Beating the fey elf is enough for me.

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...What? Losing steam? It's gaining 50 votes per update.

So was Crono over Vincent in 2007.
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Replace the other two entrants with say... Pokemanz RBY and Halo and I think LoZ might actually beat SMB.

Spin spin spin

And hail Ed Hochuli
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The thing is it won't hold those respect votes against newer games that can take away the attention of people who haven't played any of these NES classics. They're just strong apathy votes, that's all. I mean, really... think how you'd vote, assuming you're not a huge SMB fan. Would respect for what SMB has done for video gaming hold your vote for that long? Against games you like a lot?
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creative, you are pretty much the only one who thinks RBY vs. LoZ/SMB isn't a debatable match.

I know this board loves its Pokemon, but I'd give both LoZ and SMB the favourite against RBY. This massive over estimation needs to stop.
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crisis averted
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Much better update for SMB. I was worried that Zelda would get in a cut before the Power Hour was over.
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Well, you're assuming there's a large voter pool that's never played Mario 1. I think you're wrong there. A poll just a couple of years ago says that only 5% has never played it.

And don't call the poll outdated because I doubt the voter pool has shifted that significantly.
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