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Speaking of DK, anyone find it slightly odd Hideo Kojima gave Drebin a bald pet monkey in MGS4? I can't decide if this is supposed to be racism or satire. Cute monkey either way though, especially with him always asking Snake for smokes.



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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

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I think it's neither. You're overanalyzing MGS4, Ulti! Stop it!
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An error of type "Over-Analysis" occurred.

Please reboot your Ulti.
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FFX works, too.
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If the RBY/GS split is 55/45, I would put money on Majora's Mask to advance right now. I'm expecting a doubling as the worst case scenario for RBY.

I mean indirectly of course.

Though if RBY doesn't at least 70/30 GS Majora's Mask moves on.
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To continue from the last topic, I'd be really surprised if RBY didn't kill the lesser Poke-game. We'll probably get another dose of Pikachu, Blastoise, and Charizard... vs. that turkey thing? For a series that has as much overlap as Pokemon should, I think the pic should be more significant, and a picture like that would signal a killing.
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With the announcement of Heart Gold and Soul Silver things could get interesting.
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To continue from the last topic, I'd be really surprised if RBY didn't kill the lesser Poke-game. We'll probably get another dose of Pikachu, Blastoise, and Charizard... vs. that turkey thing?

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5439/r2pokemonrby2.png

Chances of Bacon using this one are slim as hell, but I'm working on others and they're all going to have Charizard/Pika/Blastoise.

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Heart Gold and Soul Silver being announced (in Japan only, even) does nothing.

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Hmm... can't you try to sneak Ash in there? I'd vote for RBY if Ash was in the picture.
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Hm.

Ocarina of Time (72% on Final Fantasy IX)
Final Fantasy VII (70% on Mario Kart 64)

Link to the Past (76% on Doom)
Chrono Trigger (78% on EarthBound)
Mario 3 (89% on Monkey Island)
Melee (66% on Wind Waker)

Final Fantasy VIII (61% on StarCraft)
Final Fantasy X (62% on MGS2)
Red/Blue/Yellow (64% on Majora's Mask)
Super Mario 64 (66% on Symphony of the Night)

Twilight Princess (60% on Half-Life 2)
Final Fantasy VI (56% on Link's Awakening)
Super Mario World (56% on Final Fantasy)
Metal Gear Solid (53% on Gold/Silver)

Mario 1/ Zelda 1/007/Kingdom Hearts/Call of Duty 4/Brawl/MGS4?
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I doubt most people even know about the DS remakes considering it's Japan only.
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Hey, Red>>>Ash. Red is the closest thing the Pokemon universe has to a badass.

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Ugh, sometimes I forget I'm the only person in the universe who loves Ash.
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MM's not turning around a 64/36 loss even with a 55/45 split. Even a 50/50 split would be difficult.....RBY wasn't that far off from a doubling, and you've got to think that GSC adds some strength to RBY.

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Link paced the halls of the Fortress of Victory, alone. Alone, because none could compare to his awesome power, in a dimension of his own creation near and far to all points in the universe at once. A portal suddenly appeared, and a warlock in heavy armor stepped out.

Link: Ganondorf, what do you want?

Ganondorf: Link, my.....master, I have identified the leader of the rebellion, the one who commands that army of pokemon.

Link: Who is it? He shall pay for daring to try to wrest the kingdom of Nintendo away from my utter domination!

Ganondorf: Ah, but perhaps I will not tell you unless you pay a small price....

Link: A price? You greatly overestimate yourself, pathetic weakling.

Instantly Ganondorf was thrown a hundred yards through the air by some invisible force, crashing into a wall of liquid energy that had not been there previously, designed to induce extreme pain. Somehow Link was right by him, and he swung the Master Sword and fired an image of it into Ganondorf. Anyone hit with such a blast would have believed the image quite real, however, and Link fired sword after sword into Ganon.

Link: Did you think you could make me pay for information which is by right mine? This pain you are currently enduring is not even necessary, you know. I could just extract the information from your mind. So, think of this as a punishment.

A dome of fire erupted from Link's hands and exploded around Ganondorf, followed by a dome of ice and a dome of pure light that was the most painful of all. Amidst the din of the magical elements, Ganondorf screamed the words "Mario" and "mercy." Link continued for several minutes before at last bringing the attacks to an end.

Link: Thank you for the information, slave. Now, you will be sent to the Second Court of Hyrule to stand trial for defying me. I shall choose....Zelda to be the judge, the sages to be the jury, Kaepora to be the prosecutor, and....Tingle to be your defense attorney. If you lose your case, you of course have permission to appeal the case to the Supreme Court of Hyrule, that is to say, me. And if you lose that case, you can appeal to the Supreme Court of the Universe, which is also me.

Ganondorf: ....

Link: Well, then, time to crush Mario for daring to oppose me!
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I'm not so sure about that. We have a case of announcements powering up characters before (Sonic in 4ways, 'nuff said), why shouldn't that happen with characters?

Anyone who's a Pokemon fan knows about it already and it still has a week to spread. If RBY/MM is going to be slim this may be the tipping point.
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I don't mind Ash, but sticking him in a picture probably makes RBY do worse.

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Sonic being announced in Brawl was a MUCH bigger announcement.
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Anyone who's a Pokemon fan knows about it already

Are you kidding?

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MM's not turning around a 64/36 loss even with a 55/45 split. Even a 50/50 split would be difficult.....RBY wasn't that far off from a doubling, and you've got to think that GSC adds some strength to RBY.

RBY won by 26k votes since over 90% of voters who will vote GS would change their vote to RBY if GS was removed. 26k votes puts GS at 30% against RBY. If RBY does not SFF GS 70/30 it is doomed. GS is not a weak game as seen last round. Also MM had to deal with Perfect Dark and Banjo-Kazooie.
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From: red sox 777 | #017
MM's not turning around a 64/36 loss even with a 55/45 split. Even a 50/50 split would be difficult.....RBY wasn't that far off from a doubling, and you've got to think that GSC adds some strength to RBY.

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Link paced the halls of the Fortress of Victory, alone. Alone, because none could compare to his awesome power, in a dimension of his own creation near and far to all points in the universe at once. A portal suddenly appeared, and a warlock in heavy armor stepped out.

Link: Ganondorf, what do you want?

Ganondorf: Link, my.....master, I have identified the leader of the rebellion, the one who commands that army of pokemon.

Link: Who is it? He shall pay for daring to try to wrest the kingdom of Nintendo away from my utter domination!

Ganondorf: Ah, but perhaps I will not tell you unless you pay a small price....

Link: A price? You greatly overestimate yourself, pathetic weakling.

Instantly Ganondorf was thrown a hundred yards through the air by some invisible force, crashing into a wall of liquid energy that had not been there previously, designed to induce extreme pain. Somehow Link was right by him, and he swung the Master Sword and fired an image of it into Ganondorf. Anyone hit with such a blast would have believed the image quite real, however, and Link fired sword after sword into Ganon.

Link: Did you think you could make me pay for information which is by right mine? This pain you are currently enduring is not even necessary, you know. I could just extract the information from your mind. So, think of this as a punishment.

A dome of fire erupted from Link's hands and exploded around Ganondorf, followed by a dome of ice and a dome of pure light that was the most painful of all. Amidst the din of the magical elements, Ganondorf screamed the words "Mario" and "mercy." Link continued for several minutes before at last bringing the attacks to an end.

Link: Thank you for the information, slave. Now, you will be sent to the Second Court of Hyrule to stand trial for defying me. I shall choose....Zelda to be the judge, the sages to be the jury, Kaepora to be the prosecutor, and....Tingle to be your defense attorney. If you lose your case, you of course have permission to appeal the case to the Supreme Court of Hyrule, that is to say, me. And if you lose that case, you can appeal to the Supreme Court of the Universe, which is also me.

Ganondorf: ....

Link: Well, then, time to crush Mario for daring to oppose me!

Awesome.
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Even a 50/50 split would be difficult

I think 50/50 would doom both Pokemon games. I'm expecting the overlap there to be massive. Honestly, my mind can barely perceive the notion of a GSC voter not voting for RBY otherwise. Of course, this is all a muted/low volume point, as most of us seem to expect a thrashing.
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RBY won by 26k votes since over 90% of voters who will vote GS would change their vote to RBY if GS was removed. 26k votes puts GS at 30% against RBY. If RBY does not SFF GS 70/30 it is doomed.

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Are you kidding?

Nope any hardcore Pokemon fanboy either knows about it or will know about it in a week's time. Look at any Pokemon forum, we've been waiting for this since FireRed/LeafGreen.
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That announcement is going to have zero effect. I hope no one in here has already compared it to Sonic/Snake Brawl, because man that would be facepalmy.
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I'm just saying that if RBY doesn't win by that much it will lose. I can see GS holding up, this isn't Link/Ganondorf.
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"I'm not so sure about that. We have a case of announcements powering up characters before (Sonic in 4ways, 'nuff said), why shouldn't that happen with characters?"

"...That would be facepalmy."

Irony? Karma? You decide! :p

RBY won by 26k votes since over 90% of voters who will vote GS would change their vote to RBY if GS was removed. 26k votes puts GS at 30% against RBY. If RBY does not SFF GS 70/30 it is doomed. GS is not a weak game as seen last round. Also MM had to deal with Perfect Dark and Banjo-Kazooie.

What? RBY got 64% on MM. So, if GS adds no strength at all to RBY, then RBY + GS also gets 64% on MM. For RBY to lose, it would have to get less than 36/64 of these votes, or 56%. In reality, GS would add some strength to RBY, so this required number would be even lower. I'm sure RBY will be well over 60%, and probably much much higher than that, though.
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That announcement is going to have zero effect. I hope no one in here has already compared it to Sonic/Snake Brawl, because man that would be facepalmy.

Agreed.
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I hope no one in here has already compared it to Sonic/Snake Brawl, because man that would be facepalmy.

Too late!
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What? RBY got 64% on MM. So, if GS adds no strength at all to RBY, then RBY + GS also gets 64% on MM. For RBY to lose, it would have to get less than 36/64 of these votes, or 56%. In reality, GS would add some strength to RBY, so this required number would be even lower. I'm sure RBY will be well over 60%, and probably much much higher than that, though.

Why would GS add strength to RBY? Isn't the whole point of LFF the opposite of what you just said.
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/R2RBY.png

Here's one Kleenex made. If his or mine gets picked, GSC is going to be destroyed.

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The point is that even with perfect LFF, RBY + GS would not do worse than just RBY against MM. That should be obvious. RBY is hurt by having to take only a portion of the RBY + GS votes, but given that the minimum for RBY + GS is what RBY got on MM last round, the absolute minimum it would need of the Pokemon votes to beat MM is that 56-57% value. If GS has any fans at all who are not RBY fans, this number just goes down.
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...I don't know why, but I find Kleenex's pic adorable. It deserves to be <3'd.

Meanwhile, the other pic looks positively BADASS. There's nothing else that can be said, really.

Oh, yeah. Watch Bacon pick Pokémon Green's boxart for the match. Given his track record, it isn't completely out of the question.

If you lose your case, you of course have permission to appeal the case to the Supreme Court of Hyrule, that is to say, me. And if you lose that case, you can appeal to the Supreme Court of the Universe, which is also me.

Hah :) Too funny. What's this from?
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Makes sense, though don't expect too many people to be fans of GS and not be fans of RBY.
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The point is that even with perfect LFF, RBY + GS would not do worse than just RBY against MM. That should be obvious. RBY is hurt by having to take only a portion of the RBY + GS votes, but given that the minimum for RBY + GS is what RBY got on MM last round, the absolute minimum it would need of the Pokemon votes to beat MM is that 56-57% value. If GS has any fans at all who are not RBY fans, this number just goes down.

We are HUMAN BEINGS AND NOT MACHINES (caps meant for amusement, not out of anger). I keep saying that this line of thinking might not be applicable 100% of the time, and I rarely get challenged, but I think it's because people just walk away without looking as if I'm some crazy hobo preaching about the end of the world.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pikachu put up an equal or higher percentage against Leon Kennedy, Chris Redfield, and Albert Wesker in a 4way than he would against Leon in a 1v1. This format is just wonked out like that.
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I don't remember it being from anything in particular, but it's possible it just got lost somewhere in my subconscious.
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We are HUMAN BEINGS AND NOT MACHINES (caps meant for amusement, not out of anger). I keep saying that this line of thinking might not be applicable 100% of the time, and I rarely get challenged, but I think it's because people just walk away without looking as if I'm some crazy hobo preaching about the end of the world.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pikachu put up an equal or higher percentage against Leon Kennedy, Chris Redfield, and Albert Wesker in a 4way than he would against Leon in a 1v1. This format is just wonked out like that.

Yeah, you're right about that- weird things can happen, and the last 2 years have showed us that preferences do change between rounds even. But MM beating RBY would be pretty much a miracle at this point (no, I refuse to admit Starcraft has no chance either, rallying and variable strength BELIEVE).
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I keep saying that this line of thinking might not be applicable 100% of the time, and I rarely get challenged, but I think it's because people just walk away without looking as if I'm some crazy hobo preaching about the end of the world.

I cut off my wrists just so you'd stop trying to establish wrist control over me all the time.
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I don't think MM's purpose is winning anymore. However, I THINK it can make RBY look vulnerable for it's clash with FF8 for second in the third round. That's pretty much what I'm hoping for: MM taking a significant enough chunk of the vote to give every FF8 fan some hope.

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Yeah, you're right about that- weird things can happen, and the last 2 years have showed us that preferences do change between rounds even. But MM beating RBY would be pretty much a miracle at this point (no, I refuse to admit Starcraft has no chance either, rallying and variable strength BELIEVE).

You can't say that Majora's Mask has no chance while Starcraft does. RBY/GS has a lot more overlap than FFVIII/FFIX. If anything MM has a better chance than Starcraft.
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StarCraft has a better chance because FFVIII didn't beat it as badly and it's not as likely to completely pulverize FFIX like RBY could do to GS.
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FF8 (or Starcraft if lightning strikes the same place a fourth time) ought to be a big favorite in that match with OOT there. It's not like RBY would beat it by much, even according to the most optimistic (non-MWC, anyway) opinions on its strength.
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MM needs a ridiculous amount of circumstances to fall its way for it to advance. Aside from an optimal split from RBY/GSC, it probably needs to have had been LFF'd in Round 1 by Perfect Dark and Banjo, something I'm very reluctant to go with, in addition to come up with some additional strength to even be in a position to advance.

Starcraft's situation is simple in comparison. That said, FF8 has to be seen as the huge favorite going into that, and Starcraft has bad odds too, but they look downright favorable compared to MM's.
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StarCraft has a better chance because FFVIII didn't beat it as badly and it's not as likely to completely pulverize FFIX like RBY could do to GS.

Again the overlap between RBY/GS is huge compare to VIII/IX, IX doing better would be because of its seperate fanbase to VIII.

Also FFVIII had Xenogears, if that makes any difference.
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