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Either way, GlaDOS scored 30% on Vincent, and got over 20% in a poll with an FF7 character and a Nintendo character in it. The picture was god-awful, and no one could have possibly voted for it thinking "HOLY CRAP I KNOW THAT PICTURE THAT'S TOTALLY THE PORTAL CHARACTER".

Calling Falco Nintendo is like calling Lucario Nintendo and Altair a powerhouse. In round 2 we say Falco flop, I'm sure the same would happen to GlaDOS.

Meanwhile, Big Daddy bombed in its poll against Gordon/Scorpion/Balthier and everyone knows who the face of Bioshock is. He was 100% recognizable in that poll. You can argue games =/= characters all you want and how match pics don't matter and whatever else, but Big Daddy's performance was much worse than GlaDOS's performance. No amount of spin changes this.

That's funny because most people agreed that Big Daddy met or did better than expected. The only thing weird in that match was Balthier's performance, but that can be ignored based on Scorpion's and Gordon's performances in future rounds. People thought GlaDOS would defeat Falco, though I can give you this, GlaDOS did impress more, but that's because I thought it would be weaker.
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Big Daddy did much better in the character battle than GlaDOS (though that's expected)

...No. It lost to Balthier. Balthier lost to Ada Wong and frigging Amaterasu.
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Good job copying my post there.
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How did Big Daddy do better? It lost to Balthier, a guy who lost to Ada Wong and freakin' Amaterasu.

2007 Balthier lost to Ada Wong, 2008 Balthier got 42% and 44% on Scorpion and Gordon respectively who then went to put 32 and 38% on Vincent.
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Um ... WHAT. There is no way to rationalise that.

GlaDOS got 30% on Vincent. Big Daddy got 40% on Gordon.

In the NEXT MATCH Gordon got 38% on Vincent.

Falco and GlaDOS were overrated in round 1...
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From: charmander6000
Falco and GlaDOS were overrated in round 1...

Good thing I didn't use Falco as a reference point in that match then. And what is GlaDOS is overated based on? If you don't mind telling me.
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From: charmander6000
People thought GlaDOS would defeat Falco,

Where are you getting this from?

http://thengamer.com/guru/CB7/stats.php?match=11
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Seriously.

Glados straight up got 30.46% on Vincent.
Big Daddy got 30.35% in Vincent through Gordon's better round (2).

It's a minuscule amount but there's no way you can say Big Daddy looked better.
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srsly
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Hey charmander, we should totally account bet this. We have about the same amount of karma.
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Also charmander is going to LOVE my Guest analysis for the crew tonight.
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Heh.

Ooh, these BioShock vs. Portal arguments are endless. And because I feel like it...

VGM VII Results

Final Fantasy XII - Did not participate
Half-Life 2 - Lost to #1 BioShock in elite eight
Phoenix Wright - Lost to #8 The Secret of Monkey Island in round 1
Zelda: Twilight Princess - Did not participate
Grand Theft Auto IV - Did not participate
Persona 4 - Did not participate
Street Fighter IV - Did not participate
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Lost to #5 Counter-Strike in round 1
Call of Duty 4 - Lost to #10 Final Fantasy VI in round 1
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - Did not participate
Super Mario Galaxy - Lost to #1 Resident Evil 4 in sweet sixteen
Team Fortress 2 - Did not participate
BioShock - Lost to National Champion Chrono Trigger in finals
LittleBigPlanet - Did not participate
Metal Gear Solid 4 - Lost to #9 Metal Gear Solid 3 in round 1
Portal - Lost to #1 Super Metroid in sweet sixteen

nintendogirl1
Good thing I didn't use Falco as a reference point in that match then. And what is GlaDOS is overated based on? If you don't mind telling me.

Good thing Falco didn't verse GlaDOS in round 2 or he would have lost. In four-packs with one strong character and three weak characters, it is likely that some of the characters were overrated. See Nightmare and Nero.

Where are you getting this from?

http://thengamer.com/guru/CB7/stats.php?match=11

Those people must have been pretty vocal, my bad.

The Mana Sword
Glados straight up got 30.46% on Vincent.
Big Daddy got 30.35% in Vincent through Gordon's better round (2).

It's a minuscule amount but there's no way you can say Big Daddy looked better.

I've already said how GlaDOS was overrated in round 1...

UltimaterializerX
Hey charmander, we should totally account bet this. We have about the same amount of karma.

You know how I feel about account bets, they're stupid and worthless. I wouldn't even take an account bet if it was Link/Tanner and I had Link. Of course you already knew that since you wouldn't have made the offer if you thought otherwise.

nintendogirl1
Also charmander is going to LOVE my Guest analysis for the crew tonight.

I always love hearing other people's opinion, that's why I post on the stats topic. Besides I have LBP in second.

>_>
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From: nintendogirl1 | #261
Also charmander is going to LOVE my Guest analysis for the crew tonight.

*looks at ngirl's analysis*

oh sh-

Also Galaxy is tearing up this DSV. Still, this is such a letdown.
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Moltar Status: ahh, there you are
Match 30 - Bracket: SMG > CoD4 - Vote: SMG (81/116)

From: Master Moltar
*looks at ngirl's analysis*

oh sh-

I may send in a revised edition if I get some time, I want to pepper it with some quotes still. But if you don't get anything else that'll do. I wanted something done.
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:D

*looks at ngirl's analysis*

oh sh-

Unless she has Portal > MGS4 it won't be that surprising.
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What proof do you have that Glados was overrated aside from your unwarranted claims that Glados had a joke rally?
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What proof do you have that Glados was overrated aside from your unwarranted claims that Glados had a joke rally?

Round 1
Vincent - 63262 - 50.00%
GlaDOS - 27708 - 30.46%

Round 2
Vincent - 52084 - 50.00%
Falco - 21492 - 29.21%

Good thing Falco won in round one because it would've lost to GlaDOS in round 2.
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And the fact that Falco did slightly worse on Vincent in Round 2 affect Glados...how, exactly?
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And the fact that Falco did slightly worse on Vincent in Round 2 affect Glados...how, exactly?

Because due to the lack of competition in round one Falco and GlaDOS did much better than they were suppose to, see Nightmare and Nero. Falco had no other reason to perform badly.
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Even if this is the case and Glados was overrated by ~1% on Vincent, that still leaves Glados and Big Daddy about equal on Vincent, so I'm really having a hard time saying Big Daddy put up a better performance.

Not to mention we're trying to compare two relatively equal character so two relatively untested games, so this argument is pretty pointless in the first place.
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From: charmander6000
And the fact that Falco did slightly worse on Vincent in Round 2 affect Glados...how, exactly?

Because due to the lack of competition in round one Falco and GlaDOS did much better than they were suppose to, see Nightmare and Nero. Falco had no other reason to perform badly.

Right, so Falco "had no right to", so it was wrong? And what's the problem with the GlaDOS and Wander votes favouring Vincent more then 65/35? Maybe the Falco fans jumped ship in R2 to a different character? It says nothing about how GlaDOS performed.
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*equal characters to
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4chan rallied for GTA against Warcraft, so "4chan rallies are all jokes" is a dumb argument.
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I don't think anyone was trying to make that argument.
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Even if this is the case and Glados was overrated by ~1% on Vincent, that still leaves Glados and Big Daddy about equal on Vincent, so I'm really having a hard time saying Big Daddy put up a better performance.

Keeping GlaDOS constant with Falco puts it at about 25% on Vincent.

Not to mention we're trying to compare two relatively equal character so two relatively untested games, so this argument is pretty pointless in the first place.

Yup, at this point we're arguing because we have nothing better to do I guess.
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It's much more possible that Falco dropped simply because the first match barely had any recognizeable characters to casual people. The only people who would vote Falco in that match are Brawl players who basically didn't like Vincent and didn't know GlaDOS or the other guy.
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Right, so Falco "had no right to", so it was wrong?

Maybe I should say no reason to...

And what's the problem with the GlaDOS and Wander votes favouring Vincent more then 65/35? Maybe the Falco fans jumped ship in R2 to a different character? It says nothing about how GlaDOS performed.

Why would a disportional amount of fans jump ship? Gordon Freeman and Scorpion have nothing in common with Falco (or should we argue about Fighting LFF).
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They jump shipped because there were more characters to choose from instead of just Falco and Vincent.
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They jump shipped because there were more characters to choose from instead of just Falco and Vincent.

And GlaDOS doesn't appeal to the voters.

Hmm... I've never played FFVII or Star Fox or Melee/don't like them, but I do like the Still Alive fad.

*next round*

Hmm... while I like the Still Alive fad Freeman/Scorpion appeal to me much more.

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Hmm... I've never played FFVII or Star Fox or Melee/don't like them, but I do like the Still Alive fad.

*next round*

Hmm... while I like the Still Alive fad Freeman/Scorpion appeal to me much more.

Really? Really? <_<

Come on now.
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Really? Really? <_<

Come on now.

I said the same thing when you posted your comment about Falco.

Just for curiosity what are your rough estimates for this match?
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From: charmander6000 | #281
And GlaDOS doesn't appeal to the voters.

Hmm... I've never played FFVII or Star Fox or Melee/don't like them, but I do like the Still Alive fad.

*next round*

Hmm... while I like the Still Alive fad Freeman/Scorpion appeal to me much more.

No no no. You're thinking of it wrong.

The average voter on this site has probably played both FF7 and/or a Super Smash Bros. game. That means he's heard of both Vincent and Falco. Falco is going to do a little bit better simply because the last two are unrecognizeable.

Next round those same voters leave Falco because the characters are much more known. They no longer have to vote Falco simply because he's the only guy they like there that's not Vincent. They can now vote a cool MK character. They can now vote a PC character. Thus, Falco's true strength shows.

It has nothing to do with Glados (sorry I can never put the caps right so forget it this time) fans. You only asked for a possible explanation for why Falco would do better in an environment where nobody knows the other two characters.
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BGE2 - Today: SMG > CoD4 - Points: 86/112 Vote: SMG

*just saw the GotY polls with CoD4*

Hmmm, I really probably should've at least skimmed those before finalizing my bracket. Perhaps I may have given CoD4 more consideration for first.

Nah who am I kidding, there's no way I would've depended on it to beat Galaxy :(

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What's "this match"? MGS4/Portal/LBP/Bioshock?
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But the problem is why wasn't Vincent also overrated thus cancelling the effect?
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What's "this match"? MGS4/Portal/LBP/Bioshock?

MGS4/Portal/LBP/Bioshock
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I don't remember what my exact prediction is, but I've got MGS4 with a pretty easy win, Portal taking second over Bioshock (barely), with LBP doing pretty bad.

Something like 40/25/25/10, give or take.
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Actually, I lied. Looks like it's 37/24/20/17. I'll probably drop LBP a bit and bump BS a tad before the match.
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And GlaDOS doesn't appeal to the voters.

Hmm... I've never played FFVII or Star Fox or Melee/don't like them, but I do like the Still Alive fad.

*next round*

Hmm... while I like the Still Alive fad Freeman/Scorpion appeal to me much more.

That actually would've been my exact situation (for Scorpion not Gordon !!) had GlaDOS advanced! Not as silly as it sounds.
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That actually would've been my exact situation (for Scorpion not Gordon !!) had GlaDOS advanced! Not as silly as it sounds.

I think this is all the proof I need!
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I don't remember what my exact prediction is, but I've got MGS4 with a pretty easy win, Portal taking second over Bioshock (barely), with LBP doing pretty bad.

Something like 40/25/25/10, give or take.

I have MGS4 doing better and LBP pretty close to Portal/BS.
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Kleenex I am the heart and soul of the casual vote it had better be all you need.
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Conclusion: Scorpion would've brutally SFFed GlaDOS. And perhaps WCC as well.
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From: charmander6000 | #287
But the problem is why wasn't Vincent also overrated thus cancelling the effect?

Vincent is in a pretty high tier. Him blowing out something more than normal wouldn't really be noticeable.
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Plus the only way you could measure him also being overrated is through Falco, and well, that could easily be more of Falco's doing.
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If GlaDOS and Falco overperformed on Vincent in round 1, it was because Vincent was the heavy favorite to win and all the heavy favorites to win did badly in round 1 last year, presumably because everyone knew they were going to win. Saying Falco folded in round 2 because he gets Smash casual votes.....come on, this is like the people arguing that Zack would fold once he met tough competition, while he was in a match with Link!
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Vincent is in a pretty high tier. Him blowing out something more than normal wouldn't really be noticeable.

Actually at higher percents it's more noticable


Plus the only way you could measure him also being overrated is through Falco, and well, that could easily be more of Falco's doing.

That's what I'm getting if they were both overrated because of lack of competition we wouldn't notice anything until GlaDOS bombs in the next contest which people would just say it was the fad dying.
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From: red sox 777 | #298
Saying Falco folded in round 2 because he gets Smash casual votes.....come on

What's so crazy about it? We saw Lucario and other characters drop the bomb, and the only thing Falco had going for him was being in Smash. We know Star Fox is barely worth anything around these parts, so a significant amount of its votes had to be "I don't like the others" more than anything, and who does a better job at that than Smash characters?
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