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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 704

charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:46:30 PM | message detail
Didn't SMG easily win the 2007 GotY? Personally I think SMG has aged better and I don't believe that Halo 3 cost CoD4 the GotY.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:46:51 PM | message detail
Persona 4 is just not giving up
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 4:47:01 PM | message detail
every xbox fps has failed, and now he thinks somehow one is gonna beat likely the strongest 3d mario, with TF2 holding it back?

right. lol
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 4:47:22 PM | message detail
50% as in the total of Galaxy/DP

Also, does anybody else get dirty thoughts when talking about DP?
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/5/2009 4:48:10 PM | message detail
P4/SF4 is STILL even? what the hell sf4, son

Brawl looking good with the ASV rise. GTA4 doesn't look bad here either, but that's mostly because P4/SF4 look so awful.

Galaxy for 50% tomorrow top 3 game believe
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:48:19 PM | message detail
every xbox fps has failed, and now he thinks somehow one is gonna beat likely the strongest 3d mario, with TF2 holding it back?

Galaxy has nothing on 64.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 4:49:56 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #103
every xbox fps has failed, and now he thinks somehow one is gonna beat likely the strongest 3d mario, with TF2 holding it back?

right. lol


Galaxy is closer to Mario Sunshine than it is to 64, by far. As for that GotY poll, I went over this before when talking about Brawl > Galaxy, but that GotY was at the peak of Nintendo "love". Galaxy/MP3 just came out and Brawl was on the horizon. It wasn't until after Brawl came out that people started to realize that there was no big Wii games for the foreseeable future, which is why Brawl did worse in it's GotY.

I see no reason that Galaxy will be anything special, and as far as Wii games go Brawl > TP > Galaxy
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 4:51:05 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #106
every xbox fps has failed, and now he thinks somehow one is gonna beat likely the strongest 3d mario, with TF2 holding it back?

Galaxy has nothing on 64.


except that its better
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 4:51:07 PM | message detail
Galaxy is closer to Mario Sunshine than it is to 64, by far.

...And what proof do you have to confirm this?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 4:51:48 PM | message detail
Halo has reason to fail. First of all, the series represents that period where people hated the X-Box.

Secondly, we were basing our expectations of Halo on Chief's last 2 years, so obviously Halo has been disappointing. I still say Halo 3 is the strongest of the 3.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/5/2009 4:51:49 PM | message detail
"Galaxy has nothing on 64."

This. You can erase every 3d platformer ever if you don't have 64, and then cut out even more stuff afterwards. Zelda? Gone. FF? Very, very different. Whatever you think about 64, it's much, much more important and well like than Galaxy, and is stronger too.
charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:52:37 PM | message detail
Galaxy is closer to Mario Sunshine than it is to 64, by far.

Did you just call Sunshine strong or is SM64 going to upset Chrono Trigger next round?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 4:53:12 PM | message detail
Out of all the games and characters we've seen, there is one 3-D platformer that's worth a damn, and that's Mario 64. That's it. 3-D platformers were so saturated in the PS1/N64 era that people are seriously turned off of them.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 4:54:13 PM | message detail
turtle, willing to account bet that CoD4 gets first tomorrow?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:54:24 PM | message detail
Uhh...what other 3D platformers have we seen?

Banjo-Kazooie and...?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 4:54:48 PM | message detail
Out of all the games and characters we've seen, there is one 3-D platformer that's worth a damn, and that's Mario 64. That's it. 3-D platformers were so saturated in the PS1/N64 era that people are seriously turned off of them.

Seriously...This site only cares about Sonic, Mega Man, and Mario when it comes to platformers. The latter two failed to make the transition into 3D work out.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:55:02 PM | message detail
Out of all the games and characters we've seen, there is one 3-D platformer that's worth a damn, and that's Mario 64. That's it. 3-D platformers were so saturated in the PS1/N64 era that people are seriously turned off of them.

And Galaxy is the first true successor to 64. People who like 64 should like Galaxy (really they should prefer since it's totally better, but whatever)
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/5/2009 4:55:18 PM | message detail
I think Ulti said it best:

"For the most part, I bash people when the prediction percentage is a bit low. I mean if this were Mario vs Link in the second round, no way in hell do you see a mere 81.93% of brackets picking Link. But in this case, I understand. Super Mario 64 was one of the most revolutionary and best titles ever to hit the market. For the most part, I feel that 3D gaming sucked before Mario 64, if it even existed at all. But after this absolute gem, look how far we`ve come. It`s for good reason too. For those who have never played Super Mario 64, you are missing a masterpiece. It`s right up there with Super Mario 3 when it comes to a fun, replayable title. Getting all 120 stars is a fun challenge, and the bosses in the game are varied enough so that you`re not doing the same thing over and over again. The exception is Bowser of course, but we`ll ignore the big turtle ~_^ Overall, it`s a fun game with a million things to do, and a replay value that had people doing those things over and over again for years. Come to think of it, we`re still doing them. The N64 had a knack for releasing timeless titles, didn`t it? "

There's some clutter in that quote, but it summarizes just how unbelievably good SM64 was nicely anyway.
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 4:55:18 PM | message detail
Blast it... I meant former two*
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greatone10 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:55:38 PM | message detail
Wait, Mega Man and MARIO failed to make the transistion to 3-D?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 4:55:43 PM | message detail
Speaking of Mario Sunshine, how well would you expect it to do here?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/5/2009 4:56:13 PM | message detail
CoD4 taking first? I have it in my bracket taking 2nd and now I'm even worried it won't even manage that >_>
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 4:56:39 PM | message detail
Wait, Mega Man and MARIO failed to make the transistion to 3-D?

That was a typo. I meant to refer to Sonic and Mega Man.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 4:57:09 PM | message detail
And Galaxy is the first true successor to 64. People who like 64 should like Galaxy (really they should prefer since it's totally better, but whatever)

SM64 gave me more sense of freedom than SMG, which is why I liked it more.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 4:57:46 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #121
Speaking of Mario Sunshine, how well would you expect it to do here?


Easily beat CoD4 just cuz its effing Mario.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 4:59:31 PM | message detail
We've seen already that "It's ZELDA/MARIO/FINAL FANTASY" hasn't been enough to cut it in this contest.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/5/2009 5:00:03 PM | message detail
What about IT'S POKEMON?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:02 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #126
We've seen already that "It's ZELDA/MARIO/FINAL FANTASY" hasn't been enough to cut it in this contest.


And we've already seen FPS xbox sucking. I wouldn't take any of them to beat Mario, even Mario bros 2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:06 PM | message detail
Nearly a 2% gain in 5 and a half hours for SSBB.

SFIV and Persona 4 just going back and forth.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:33 PM | message detail
What about IT'S POKEMON?

We'll find out in a few hours!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:40 PM | message detail
Anything Banjo related, FAIL

Conker, FAIL

Spyro the Dragon, TURBOFAIL

Crash Bandicoot, LOL SONY

Ratchet Jak Clank and Daxter, WOW SO MUCH FAIL

Mario Sunshine, WHOOPS

Metroid Prime (although not exactly a platformer per se, has enough platforming elements), FAIL

Hell, 3-D platformers are even retroactively hurting Sonic.

There is one and only one 3-D platformer that I would take to have any measure of success, and that's the original 3-D platformer Mario 64.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:48 PM | message detail
Brawl is going to LOSE to Twilight Princess, if I had to GUESS.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/5/2009 5:01:54 PM | message detail
"That was a typo. I meant to refer to Sonic and Mega Man."

I dunno, Sonic is FINALLY getting some good 3d games again through the Sonic Tales series (Sonic and the Secret Rings was excellent, Sonic and the Black Knight not so much, but still pretty good). It just needs a smash hit to finally make it.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:03:46 PM | message detail
And once again, CoD4 is so different from Halo in that it was well-liked and supported by the people who bashed Halo, the majority of users on this site. The fact that it did so good in the GotY despite Halo 3 and Nintendo love is really telling. Hell, it was so good that Modern Warfare 2 won't even have the CoD brand.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:04:06 PM | message detail
I think Brawl, Galaxy, and TP aren't going to end up too far apart, but I'd go TP > Brawl > Galaxy right now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 5:04:06 PM | message detail
Turtle, account bet me on CoD4. Unless you're just trolling about it winning.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:05:59 PM | message detail
I'm not sure enough about it to make an account bet, especially against a low-level alt of a person that probably won't even adhere to the bet. I've got about 70% certainty in this upset.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 5:06:25 PM | message detail
Low level alt? This is my only account thats accessible to b8.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:09:21 PM | message detail
I have nothing to gain from account betting you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:10:07 PM | message detail
This topic has plenty to gain from you two account betting one another.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 5:10:14 PM | message detail
Then I'll just take it that you're trolling people about CoD4 actually beating Galaxy since there is absolutely no chance of that actually happening. I wouldn't risk my only account on something that was possible, afterall.
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transients | Posted 5/5/2009 5:14:32 PM | message detail
This topic has plenty to gain from you two account betting one another.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:21:30 PM | message detail
And I guess since multiple people are going to be doing these things, I'll go ahead and do some of my own! I'll use the format that I've been using in my Ace Attorney Character Rankings topic.

1972-1988 Division

The Good: Watching Super Mario Bros. score 70% and then Legend of Zelda score 61% the next day. The battle between these two is what this division is all about, and they didn't disappoint. Mario 1 actually set a percentage record for 4-ways, even if it only lasted for a few days.

The STAR: For me, it's gotta be Tetris. Sure, we expected Tetris to win, but with 53-54% of the vote? That was impressive. I always thought Tetris was just this casual game that people liked but didn't really care too much about, so watching it tear that poll apart impressed me. Sure, it was pretty sucky competition to be sure, but it definitely far exceeded expectations and made itself a favorite in round 2 over Mega Man 2.

The Bad: Contra blowing a prime opportunity to take advantage of Zelda/Metroid SFF to advance, and it wasn't even close. It finished closer to DWIII than it did to Metroid. Also, we musn't forget Mega Man 2's mega bomb. We waited five years for THIS?

The TURD: The fact that this division exists at all. Seriously, we don't need a division full of games that existed before 90% of the GameFAQs users were born! The only games from this division that deserve to be in this contest are in the second round, and a couple of THOSE don't deserve to be here (DK and Ninja Gaiden), so we basically wasted like 10 good slots for the divisions by generation junk.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 5:23:27 PM | message detail
Also, we musn't forget Mega Man 2's mega bomb. We waited five years for THIS?

XD

What about grades?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 5:27:10 PM | message detail
The TURD: The fact that this division exists at all.

Hey, there was okay there wasn't anything.

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2009 5:29:25 PM | message detail
If Albion and BT are account-betting on CoD4...man, tomorrow could be awesome. I would consider it my graduation gift from the CS&D-topics.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 5:32:44 PM | message detail
Sadly BT is chicken.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 5:33:39 PM | message detail
Street Fighter IV's got this.

(let's go reverse psychology)

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 5:34:58 PM | message detail
Oh right, grades.

Donkey Kong - A lot of people were expecting it to lose to Punch-Out!! and it didn't, so that's a plus. It actually made a comeback and pulled away for once as opposed to having something come back on it and pull away from it.

Grade: B-

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - Hey, this game would've won if it weren't for Europe! Whoo, Geolocation! Seriously though, I expected it to be a close match with Donkey Kong, and I figured it was more of an upset pick than anything. I'm surprised so many people went with the pick! Overall, it did about as expected, other than falling short.

Grade: C

Space Invaders: Hey, our first of many single digit last place finishers! Okay, this game got doubled by Donkey Kong and Punch-Out!!, and we know those games are pretty crappy. What other grade do you give it?

Grade: F

Tetris: As already stated, this is my star for this division. It far surpassed expectations and cemented itself as a favorite for the next round. It not only won the match, but it blew everything else out of the water. An impressive performance in every possible way.

Grade: A+
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/5/2009 5:36:28 PM | message detail
Space Invaders: Hey, our first of many single digit last place finishers! Okay, this game got doubled by Donkey Kong and Punch-Out!!, and we know those games are pretty crappy. What other grade do you give it?

Grade: F


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