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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 703

charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:07:20 AM | message detail
I think DP is going to finish in second here. DP is the second favorite in the Pokemon franchise, plus Platinum has brought a lot of Pokemon fans out of hiding. CoD4 is a strong game, but I don't see it being strong enough to hang with a strong Pokemon game.

RBY > GSC > DPP > RSE

As for Galaxy SFFing it, Pokemon hasn't been SFFed in a contest yet. It's the only Nintendo franchise that acts independently from other Nintendo franchises, which makes sense since it is pretty much a handheld franchise.

If a Nintendo series is going to SFF Pokemon it would be Mario.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:08:35 AM | message detail
Very pleased by P4's performance!
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:08:42 AM | message detail
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:09:52 AM | message detail
Wait... going back through the last topic (yeah, I know, I regret it now) are people actually trying to pass off Persona's performance as bad here? I mean, I didn't have any faith in it either (WHAT THE HELL IS PERSONA), but give the thing some credit here. It's humiliating SF4 here, no matter how big an egg it might be laying. Considering people like cn were acting just as petulant as any other fanboy... seriously, what the hell. You invite this ridicule.

You know when Karma of all people gives you credit you're doing well.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 10:13:16 AM | message detail
I guess you can give Persona credit if you thought it would be in the single digits, but I think most people would have expected it to hit double digits. Persona and SFIV both suck pretty hard here.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/5/2009 10:13:29 AM | message detail
I'm starting to have a bad feeling about Galaxy. Galaxy seems like a game only hardcore Mario fans bought while everybody and their mother were looking forward to Brawl. I'll definitely give the playrate advantage to Brawl, but I'm not so sure anymore if Galaxy is actually liked more than Brawl. Even for a good, well-received Mario game, I'm not sure if it has the 'classic' status anymore than Brawl would.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/5/2009 10:13:52 AM | message detail
Whoever said that Pokemon has never been SFFd is quite wrong, I must say. Look at what happened to Pikachu in 2003.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:15:28 AM | message detail
I guess you can give Persona credit if you thought it would be in the single digits, but I think most people would have expected it to hit double digits. Persona and SFIV both suck pretty hard here.

Meh. Considering it's in a poll with three very mainstream franchises, it's doing well no matter how you phrase it, even if GTA and SF don't have the best track record, it's still not a bad feat. Especially in comparison to some of the earlier matches where you had stuff like Perfect Dark's performance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:15:52 AM | message detail
Whoever said that Pokemon has never been SFFd is quite wrong, I must say. Look at what happened to Pikachu in 2003.

That was more Pikachu being Melee SFFd, see Ike LFF Pikachu in round 1 while Pikachu SFF Captain Falcon in round 2.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:17:21 AM | message detail
I'm starting to have a bad feeling about Galaxy. Galaxy seems like a game only hardcore Mario fans bought while everybody and their mother were looking forward to Brawl. I'll definitely give the playrate advantage to Brawl, but I'm not so sure anymore if Galaxy is actually liked more than Brawl. Even for a good, well-received Mario game, I'm not sure if it has the 'classic' status anymore than Brawl would.


This is what I'm afraid of. Honestly I think Galaxy was a lot more well-received than Brawl though. Brawl's hype left many haters that still had much left to be desired(AKA they wanted a carbon copy of Melee)
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/5/2009 10:17:29 AM | message detail
Whoever said that Pokemon has never been SFFd is quite wrong, I must say. Look at what happened to Pikachu in 2003.

Pokemon, not Pikachu.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:18:35 AM | message detail
Though I think Phantom Hourglass SFF Diamond/Pearl in the GotY poll.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 10:18:49 AM | message detail
Well, if you wanna look at it like that, you can, but SFIV and Persona are definitely weak games. Getting nearly doubled by GTAIV will do that. I'm fine with giving some credit where it's due, but Persona's not doing anything amazing here, it's SFIV just bombing.

Not that it matters too much, all three of these games are just here for round 1.

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Big Bob | Posted 5/5/2009 10:20:26 AM | message detail
Actually, if Pokemon manages to win tomorrow, GTAIV is going to stand out like crazy next round. I have it getting first in my bracket.
charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:22:30 AM | message detail
Actually, if Pokemon manages to win tomorrow, GTAIV is going to stand out like crazy next round. I have it getting first in my bracket.

I have it in second next round, but then again I also had SA and VC in second next round.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 10:22:33 AM | message detail
I'd be surprised if Pokemon managed to win tomorrow, but we'll see.

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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:23:58 AM | message detail
Well, if you wanna look at it like that, you can, but SFIV and Persona are definitely weak games.

I'm just saying, there not complete fodder failures like some of the other games we've seen. That's all I'm getting at.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:28:16 AM | message detail
I'd still take every single game in the previous division over P4, only one I'm having a tough time with is Gears of War.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/5/2009 10:35:24 AM | message detail
The last division was pretty stacked, but I'd prolly take P4 over SH2.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2009 10:53:06 AM | message detail
For what it's worth, SSBB > GTA4 is currently looking like FFX > MGS2 except SSBB still has a day-vote to look forward to. This isn't as bad as I thought it might be last night, thought it's still not currently doing as well against GTA4/P4 as it did in the GotY-polls earlier. I guess SSBB/LoZ:TP could be up in the air since it underwhelmed against FF12 in comparison to their GotY-polls, though I still definitely like LoZ:TP.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:57:38 AM | message detail
Brawl is currently getting the same against GTAIV as TP is against FFXII.

Brawl still has the ASV vote though.
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voltch | Posted 5/5/2009 11:14:46 AM | message detail
P4 vs Monkey Island vs Ninja Gaiden vs Donkey Kong.
hey 3/4 made round 2 so they got legit strength....for their piss poor eras.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2009 11:19:27 AM | message detail
SSBB better improve well with the ASV then, because I don't like GTA4 coming very close to FF12.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 5/5/2009 11:20:19 AM | message detail
Brawl should have no trouble annihilating the ASV with this pack.
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voltch | Posted 5/5/2009 11:22:11 AM | message detail
GTAIV would probably get hammered by a square entity like FFXII,it's honestly just taking advantage of very,very,very weak competition,but after SFII that wasn't much of a surprise.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 5/5/2009 12:28:48 PM | message detail
Persona 4 winning the ASV what a beast
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/5/2009 12:29:40 PM | message detail
If SF4 had Ryu in the pic, it would be third easily.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/5/2009 12:32:39 PM | message detail
I doubt it, but whatever. There are only so many votes you can grab by just putting Ryu in a picture.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 12:57:52 PM | message detail
So Twilight Princess is relatively disappointing, as is Brawl.

...Is anyone expecting Galaxy not to disappoint? If so, why?
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 1:01:46 PM | message detail
Brawl is performing almost exactly what the GotY predicted...

Also what's with there being no debates between CoD4 and DP, there's supporters for both sides.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 1:03:47 PM | message detail
This performance is a lot more SFIV bombing then Persona 4 well, but I'm still happy with it.

As for DP, why is everyone expecting it to be much weaker than GSC? It shouldn't be much weaker.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:03:50 PM | message detail
And looks like Brawl is gonna finish with 46-47% here, like I figured last night.

Persona 4/SFIV is lookin' like it's gonna be the record for closest wire-to-wire margin.
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Big Bob | Posted 5/5/2009 1:05:12 PM | message detail
Actually, if anything I'd bet DP to be stronger than GS. DP essentially jumpstarted the pokemon franchise and brought in a new generation of players.
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 1:06:43 PM | message detail
Yeah, and it's not like DP is hated or anything. It's considered one of the better Pokemon games.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:11:49 PM | message detail
*shrugs*

I never know what to expect from Pokemon anymore. CoD4's beat down of Halo 3 a couple of years ago looks a lot less impressive after we've watched the Halo games bomb, so...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/5/2009 1:12:15 PM | message detail
I think Brawl is pretty close to TP but still under it. TP undoubtedly had stronger competition, but there's only so much I'd expect it to get here.

It's very possible we can see three top Wii games being real close together where SFF settles the difference.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:12:35 PM | message detail
Oh, and I don't expect CoD4 to be one of those games that's forgotten and hasn't aged well since it's still, you know, really popular and widely played now. It's not gonna pull a Gears of War here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:13:36 PM | message detail
Persona 4's lead is under 100, and Brawl is getting 50%+ updates with regularity here.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/5/2009 1:13:50 PM | message detail
Pokemon DP won't be any where near GS, if anything GS will be closer to RBY than DP will be to GS.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 1:13:53 PM | message detail
Galaxy to be the strongest Wii game book it

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 1:14:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, I could see DP's ceiling being a little above GSC. Floor would be somewhat below GSC, but I think it ends up a lot closer to the ceiling.

...Would anyone here take GSC over Galaxy? >_>

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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/5/2009 1:15:54 PM | message detail
...Would anyone here take GSC over Galaxy? >_>

I'd consider it. Almost 47% on MGS is no joke; if you take MGS over Galaxy there's not a lot of room there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:16:16 PM | message detail
...Would anyone here take GSC over Galaxy? >_>

I don't think MGS gets 55% on Galaxy, so no.

And I love Galaxy a bunch, but I still expect Brawl to beat it next round unless it goes out and crushes the poll tomorrow.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 1:17:26 PM | message detail
COD4 should do well tomorrow. I said pre-contest that I expected it to be the strongest FPS game in the contest, even over Goldeneye. That doesn't mean a whole lot after having seen the Halos and Half-Lifes not do particularly well, but it shouldn't have too much to worry about as far as placing goes. I'd be surprised if Pokemon really challenged it for second.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/5/2009 1:18:55 PM | message detail
I would take GSC over Goldeneye by this point, and I don't think CoD4 trumps Goldeneye.

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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 1:19:15 PM | message detail
Not even sure MGS can beat Galaxy, so I wouldn't think much about GSC over it.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/5/2009 1:19:40 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 did pretty well for itself. I'd wager GoldenEye > Half-Life 2 > Call of Duty 4 as a best case scenario for CoD4.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/5/2009 1:20:24 PM | message detail
I dont know what to expect tommorow.


If it were up to me, TF2 wouldve Backstabbed all of them.
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/5/2009 1:21:31 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 did pretty well for itself. I'd wager GoldenEye > Half-Life 2 > Call of Duty 4 as a best case scenario for CoD4.

Not sure why Call of Duty 4 can't beat Half-Life 2.
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ZFS | Posted 5/5/2009 1:23:36 PM | message detail
I'd definitely take COD4 over HL2.

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