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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 703

RPGuy96 | Posted 5/4/2009 10:56:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised about Persona 4. I figured it would fade heavily after the Power Hour, but it's hanging on to where it was 15 minutes into the match. It should be completely garbage during the day...but SFIV's not going to do much with the day either.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/4/2009 10:57:36 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | Posted: 5/5/2009 1:54:40 AM | #248
Your missing the point though. Ulti has said this kinda BS to me plenty of times in the past. Without me even saying a word directed at him, most of the time.

And with results like this, if I wanted to piss you off I'd keep saying it too!


No freaking kidding. This is like a flounder biting on a baitless fish hook because it was all pink and shiny.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 10:57:44 PM | message detail
Persona 4 likely has Disgaea type trends, both being cult Atlus rpgs.
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voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 10:59:03 PM | message detail
dude what happened over P4,all I wanted was 12% or more.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 10:59:11 PM | message detail
@BlackTurtle

-Team Fortress 2 being a non factor? After seeing what Half-Life 2 did? Huh.
-The reason why 3d platformers don't do well aside on this site aside from Mario 64, is, well, LOOK AT THE FREAKING GAMES. This site only cares about Mario, Sonic, and Mega Man (and associated characters) when it comes to platformers. Out of those three, Sonic and Mega Man have failed to make the transition to 3d well, and Super Mario Sunshine wasn't looked on very well by fans. Franchise voting has worked for EVERY game in a popular series on GameFAQs except for one that was really different from the main series (that's why Majora's Mask, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Final Fantasy XII all bombed). Super Mario Galaxy is well loved by fans of the Mario series, and that is the 3rd most popular franchise on this site, overwhelmingly more popular than anything not named Final Fantasy or Legend of Zelda.

Now for talk about another game, Final Fantasy VI. Many are saying it disappointed in its match, and I agree, as it failed to break 60% on a handheld game. Now, it's possible that FF6 is declining on this site (as evidenced by Kefka's piss-poor performance last year), but another thing that just about nobody considered is that FF6 is overrated in this contest. I mean, the whole FF6/DOOM/EarthBound trio has bombed this contest, and it can be explained in no way aside from FF6 overperforming in its final match in the last games contest due to seeding. I mean, from breaking 45% on A Link to the Past to not breaking 60% on Link's Awakening isn't god by any means. It may have seemed obvious, but I just wanted to point it out.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 10:59:36 PM | message detail
*Shrugs* Whatever man. I just don't appreciate getting knocked at for essentially no reason >_>
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intrazone26 | Posted 5/4/2009 10:59:56 PM | message detail
A lot of people probably missed out on p4 since it came out so late on ps2. people who might have voted for sf4 probably voted for brawl
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/4/2009 11:05:41 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | FFXII | Half-Life 2 | PW: AA | LOZ: TP | Demographic
EBV | 20.24% | 25.93% | 17.29% | 36.54% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 21.39% | 27.25% | 13.48% | 37.88% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 24.43% | 26.72% | 13.32% | 35.53% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 24.97% | 25.88% | 11.92% | 37.23% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 24.61% | 26.12% | 10.58% | 38.69% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 22.64% | 24.96% | 10.30% | 42.10% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 24.02% | 24.94% | 10.75% | 40.28% | (22:00-24:00)

Heh, PW's board vote makes everyone else's board vote look bad. TP has a great ASV like you'd expect, but its night vote isn't horrible for a Zelda game. Though its Power Hour was probably diluted some thanks to PW. HL2 had a strong Power Hour, but it took a hit in the ASV. We might be able to rank FFXII up there with the all-time worsts in the board vote and Power Hour department. It did well everywhere else except the ASV. In like manner, we can rank PW up there with one of the all-time great board votes.

Yesterday's stats:

Twilight Princess – 50.00%
Half-Life 2 – 39.80%
Final Fantasy XII – 37.68%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 22.57%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/4/2009 11:12:09 PM | message detail
I wonder what's the longest we've gone without a lead reaching triple digits. Going on over 2 hours now on SFIV/Persona 4.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 11:28:21 PM | message detail
Hmm. I have to agree with LinkMarioSamus on FF6. Link's Awakening is nowhere near LttP in strength, that much is for sure. However, he brought up Kefka's poor performance last Character Battle, and I must point out that Kefka (and FF6's characters, actually) have repeatedly stunk up the joint.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 11:30:43 PM | message detail
...And Persona 4 whacks SF4's lead down to 17 again. Man, SF4 is PATHETIC. Can't even break away from a cult RPG? XD
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 11:33:27 PM | message detail
Wait, did I say 17? Because it's only 9 now! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 11:34:33 PM | message detail
And I'll feel better about judging GTA4 when it's got real competition, not the two stooges that can't even pull away from each other!! Ha ha!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/4/2009 11:39:28 PM | message detail
I'm leaping off Mt. Everest with this assumption, but I'm going to assume that skipping these first 250 posts wouldn't be a bad idea.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/4/2009 11:43:13 PM | message detail
Gotta have strong calf muscles to jump all that train-wreck.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/4/2009 11:44:08 PM | message detail
You're not missing much in the first 250 posts.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/4/2009 11:45:04 PM | message detail
I see things finally calmed down here.

Nice to see P4 still hanging in there!

Now all it has to do is have a better day than SF4 and I'm satisfied.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/4/2009 11:48:42 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #259
I wonder what's the longest we've gone without a lead reaching triple digits. Going on over 2 hours now on SFIV/Persona 4.


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2905&num=4

Ada / Ammy lasted for 10 hours before Ammy finally pulled above 100.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/4/2009 11:50:30 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess vs. Brawl

Consensus now?
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 11:54:41 PM | message detail
I'm leaping off Mt. Everest with this assumption, but I'm going to assume that skipping these first 250 posts wouldn't be a bad idea.

Yeah, you really didn't miss anything.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 5/4/2009 11:55:34 PM | message detail
I can't see how you could form a consensus one way or the other on this. Brawl's got less than 50% on a GTA game, Persona 4, and a game that is less than 30 votes ahead of Persona 4. TP did worse on FFXII than it did in the GotY, a FFXII that lost comfortably to Half-Life 2. Both either met expectations or slightly disappointed them, both are massive hype failures for their respective series. I guess I'll give Zeldafear the edge, though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/4/2009 11:59:07 PM | message detail
Same here. Watching Street Fighter IV struggle with Persona, it's very difficult for me not to picture FFXII taking second place here easily. Heck, I wonder how Mr. Wright would be doing against Persona.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/5/2009 12:19:53 AM | message detail
Whoa, that was ugly. If GTA can catch lightning in a bottle here, it might manage a stall.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/5/2009 12:26:00 AM | message detail
Man the Board really hates FF12
paulg235 | Posted 5/5/2009 12:36:49 AM | message detail
WTH are you doing here, SFIV? It's nice to see P4 do something in this match, but this isn't nice for my bracket (Have SFIV>Brawl in R2).

That said, I don't think SF2 is a lock to advance anymore, and Sonic, regardless of the SFF by Mario 3, is probably making it through this one.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/5/2009 12:39:41 AM | message detail
Sonic still looks doomed to me. Street Fighter II is a lot stronger than this.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2009 1:03:49 AM | message detail
Agreeing with yo here, though I'm intrigued more by how their match will be the first time we can actually PROVE that Sonic is affected by Nintendo. We've all tried to make up guesses for what Sonic 2 should have gotten on SMW, and we won't see Sonic 3 again....but at least we can finally see a solid before-and-after with Sonic (and Sonic 2 later with a handheld non-platformer).
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/5/2009 1:05:46 AM | message detail
I'd go with both slightly disappointing, I suppose. Can't wait to see how Galaxy does.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2009 1:10:51 AM | message detail
I also forgot to throw in my opinion of comparing LoZ:TP's/SSBB's competition: I'm certain FF12 beats GTA4 (and HL2 beats it worse), and I'd probably take PW:AA over Persona 4 (and SF4 by default). LoZ:TP's opponents were definitely better.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/5/2009 1:24:22 AM | message detail
I think they're about even with maybe a slight edge to TP, all things considered. And I dunno, something tells me Galaxy would be killing this poll right now.
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Mr3790 | Posted 5/5/2009 1:32:28 AM | message detail
Godamn GTAIV
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/5/2009 1:34:47 AM | message detail
Man, Persona really doesn't want this to go over 50 votes. Whenever SF4 gets there, P4 pulls it down right back.

Now watch it stop doing this now that I've said it.
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transience | Posted 5/5/2009 2:50:19 AM | message detail
I look forward to SF4's morning vote.

and then its likely comeback with the afterschool vote.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/5/2009 2:59:04 AM | message detail
This is one hell of a night oriented competition against Brawl. That day vote difference is going to be amazing
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/5/2009 3:16:21 AM | message detail
Aww yeah, Persona's back in 3rd!
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xp1337 | Posted 5/5/2009 3:42:31 AM | message detail
Brawl with 44% and yet P4 in third nearly 7 hours in?

....Hahaha what?

No way that should hold, but that's certainly surprising!
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paulg235 | Posted 5/5/2009 3:48:02 AM | message detail
...And we still got the legendary bad SF morning vote coming up.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/5/2009 3:52:40 AM | message detail
Holy.... P4 just jumped straight to 100 with a 34 vote gain.

Too bad about that record though. Looks like the Ammy / Ada match get to keep it.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/5/2009 3:56:46 AM | message detail
Losing the morning vote to a cult PS2 RPG

Oh man
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/5/2009 3:57:15 AM | message detail
What did anyone expect with SF4? It's been out for a handful of months so not a lot of people have it, would have not have made a 128 bracket legitimately, is sharing a poll with a much more popular fighting game and Street Fighter isn't all that popular on this site in the first place.


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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/5/2009 4:17:35 AM | message detail
SF4 makes it legit if noms opened up later, but this is a HORRIBLE performance. Street Fighter has easily been the most disappointing series of this contest.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/5/2009 4:20:44 AM | message detail
About 27% for a game in a relatively cult series thats been released for only 2 months isn't bad at all. It's as good as you could expect.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 5/5/2009 4:40:25 AM | message detail
Wait... going back through the last topic (yeah, I know, I regret it now) are people actually trying to pass off Persona's performance as bad here? I mean, I didn't have any faith in it either (WHAT THE HELL IS PERSONA), but give the thing some credit here. It's humiliating SF4 here, no matter how big an egg it might be laying. Considering people like cn were acting just as petulant as any other fanboy... seriously, what the hell. You invite this ridicule.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/5/2009 4:58:21 AM | message detail
Persona is doing fine for a cult game
Street Fighter IV is doing fine for a new release on the two minority consoles.
GTA is doing fine and on par to other games in its series.
Brawl will end up with a decent enough percentage at the end.


Cut the dramatics, this outcome was obvious, nothing is being humiliated.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 5/5/2009 5:03:53 AM | message detail
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/5/2009 5:10:38 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #293
WHAT THE HELL IS PERSONA


well then. time to take you seriously.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:21:18 AM | message detail
I mean, the whole FF6/DOOM/EarthBound trio has bombed this contest, and it can be explained in no way aside from FF6 overperforming in its final match in the last games contest due to seeding. I mean, from breaking 45% on A Link to the Past to not breaking 60% on Link's Awakening isn't god by any means. It may have seemed obvious, but I just wanted to point it out.

Or, 3 games that have every reason to perform well with low votals are getting killed by the swarm of kiddies that were born after they came out.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/5/2009 5:23:00 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #293
Wait... going back through the last topic (yeah, I know, I regret it now) are people actually trying to pass off Persona's performance as bad here? I mean, I didn't have any faith in it either (WHAT THE HELL IS PERSONA), but give the thing some credit here. It's humiliating SF4 here, no matter how big an egg it might be laying. Considering people like cn were acting just as petulant as any other fanboy... seriously, what the hell. You invite this ridicule.


Persona is doing about as expected. It's only considered bad because we had a few trolls spouting BS about it being a threat to advance all day yesterday.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/5/2009 5:25:06 AM | message detail
How does having poor predictions make you a troll?
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/5/2009 5:34:11 AM | message detail
Wow, Brawl's not waiting for the ASV to rise. It looks good for 46% here, maybe even 47%.
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