GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 703
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/4/2009 7:19:34 PM | message detail |
How are you supposed to fight for your country when you can't even defend yourself? ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/4/2009 7:20:25 PM | message detail |
Hire mercenaries TBH. --- But what do I know. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/4/2009 7:20:28 PM | message detail |
It's almost like you camp here and wait for the last topic to hit 300. Almost. --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
-ElFuerte- | Posted 5/4/2009 7:23:29 PM | message detail |
Time for some dynamite all over GTA IV's face. --- ~It's Super Dynamic Cooking Time EL FUERTE FLYING GIGA BUSTER |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/4/2009 7:29:13 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 5/4/2009 10:20:28 PM | #003 I literally just signed on, because CERTAIN PEOPLE are clogging up the house with Dancing With the Stars -_- --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
ZFS | Posted 5/4/2009 7:32:28 PM | message detail |
shoryuken --- a metal slime appears |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 7:38:25 PM | message detail |
LAST HALF AN HOUR OF THE MATCH!!! Half-Life 2 is still beating Final Fantasy XII by 2%. Even if it loses, an FPS giving a Final Fantasy game a good fight like this is a moral victory for Half-Life 2 given what has happened throughout the course of the contest. It must be noted that Half-Life 2 is one of the few games in the tourney which I think is deserving of "Best. Game. Ever." In case I didn't say already, here are some of the games I think are deserving of that title, from each division. 1972-1988 Super Mario Bros. 1989-1991 Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario World 1992-1994 Zelda: A Link to the Past Super Metroid Final Fantasy VI 1995-1997 Chrono Trigger Super Mario 64 GoldenEye Final Fantasy VII 1998-2000 Metal Gear Solid Zelda: Ocarina of Time 2001-2003 uhhhhhhhh 2004-2006 Half-Life 2 Resident Evil 4 2007-2009 Super Mario Galaxy |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/4/2009 7:41:11 PM | message detail |
Even if it loses uh --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/4/2009 7:43:14 PM | message detail |
It
must be noted that Half-Life 2 is one of the few games in the tourney
which I think is deserving of "Best. Game. Ever." In case I didn't say
already, here are some of the games I think are deserving of that
title, from each division. I agree with your list. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
MnMZero | Posted 5/4/2009 7:44:28 PM | message detail |
so soon?! --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 7:55:12 PM | message detail |
I guess Street Fighter II and Tetris also deserve the title to some extent due to their timelessness (is that even a word?). BTW looking at vote totals, Twilight Princess is stronger than GoldenEye, Resident Evil 4, and Metal Gear Solid! Damn, the most recent Zelda game is a beast. My opinion is that it's overrated by somebody who would perceive it as one of the best games of all time, but it is most definetely one of the best games in this generation, especially when you consider all the content! I liked Wind Waker a tad bit more though, probably because the cel-shaded artwork is cool. Okay, looking at tomorrow's match, Street Fighter IV could beat Grand Theft Auto IV due to franchise voting (Street Fighter > GTA, right?), but I'm sticking with my bracket. And since GTA is so crazy (GOOD THING), GTAIV gets my vote, just like San Andreas did. Is it just me, or do I think that Vagrant Story was unfairly snubbed. Same with all Gran Turismos and Quakes and Unreal Tournaments, to be honest, as well as Guitar Heros. |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 8:14:08 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
deadeyedllv | Posted 5/4/2009 8:59:24 PM | message detail |
2 minutes to another GTA failure! --- Best.Game.Ever. current score: 76 Today: Zelda: Twilight Princess > Half-Life 2 |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 9:06:34 PM | message detail |
Yay! Half-Life 2 beat Final Fantasy XII! Okay, currently Super Smash Bros. Brawl is winning and Grand Theft Auto IV is in 2nd place. Who knows what will happen, though? |
Lucid Faia | Posted 5/4/2009 9:09:17 PM | message detail |
Brawl might win the entire contest. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 9:10:07 PM | message detail |
tag --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
Megaman703 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:10:30 PM | message detail |
Somehow, I feel very obliged to post here. --- "In the game of chess you can never let your opponent see your pieces." |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 9:23:56 PM | message detail |
The updated list of the highest vote totals: 1. Super Mario Bros. 3 2. Super Mario Bros. 3. The Legend of Zelda 4. Zelda: Ocarina of Time 5. Final Fantasy VII 6. Chrono Trigger 7. Zelda: A Link to the Past 8. Super Mario World 9. Pokemon Red/Blue 10. Tetris 11. Super Smash Bros. Melee 12. Final Fantasy X 13. Final Fantasy IV 14. Super Mario 64 15. Final Fantasy VIII 16. Final Fantasy 17. Zelda: Twilight Princess 18. Sonic the Hedgehog 19. Kingdom Hearts 20. Metal Gear Solid 21. Final Fantasy VI 22. Resident Evil 4 23. GoldenEye 24. Kingdom Hearts 2 25. Metal Gear Solid 3 26. Super Metroid 27. Super Mario Kart 28. Mega Man 2 29. Pokemon Gold/Silver 30. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 31. Street Fighter II 32. Super Mario RPG 33. Mega Man 3 34. Zelda: Link’s Awakening 35. Zelda: Majora’s Mask 36. Metal Gear Solid 2 37. StarCraft 38. Half-Life 2 39. Diablo II 40. Mortal Kombat II 41. Pac-Man 42. Oblivion 43. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 44. Halo 45. Final Fantasy XII 46. Mario Kart 64 47. Zelda: Wind Waker 48. Tales of Symphonia 49. God of War 50. Knights of the Old Republic The original aim of Twilight Princess was to "do what you couldn't do in Ocarina of Time," and it seems that being close to such a blockbuster title has drawn several votes there. Half-Life 2 also snuck into the top 40, and according to vote totals it is the 2nd strongest PC game, only being beaten by StarCraft. And while Final Fantasy XII was eliminated, it still showed that being a Final Fantasy title will always net tons of votes regardless of how different you are, and FF12 has taken over God of War's spot as the top vote getter that was eliminated. |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/4/2009 9:31:33 PM | message detail |
Here's how the round 1 matches will go according to vote totals. Tetris > Mega Man 2 > Pac-Man > Donkey Kong Super Mario Bros. > The Legend of Zelda > Metroid > Ninja Gaiden Super Mario Bros. 3 > Sonic the Hedgehog > Street Fighter II > The Secret of Monkey Island Super Mario World > Final Fantasy IV > Final Fantasy > Mega Man 3 Zelda: A Link to the Past > Super Metroid > Super Mario Kart > Donkey Kong Country Final Fantasy VI > Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > Zelda: Link's Awakening > Mortal Kombat II Final Fantasy VII > GoldenEye > Super Mario RPG > Mario Kart 64 Chrono Trigger > Super Mario 64 > Yoshi's Island > Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Pokemon Red/Blue > Metal Gear Solid > Pokemon Gold/Silver > Zelda: Majora's Mask Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy VIII > StarCraft > Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy X > Kingdom Hearts > Metal Gear Solid 2 > Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Super Smash Bros. Melee > Diablo II > Halo > Zelda: Wind Waker Metal Gear Solid 3 > Oblivion > Tales of Symphonia > World of Warcraft Zelda: Twilight Princess > Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts 2 > Half-Life 2 |
XIII_rocks | Posted 5/4/2009 9:33:33 PM | message detail |
XD @ Ulti's wife watching Strictly Come Dancing --- Justice for FD "This topic is now about Renee Walker aka Rack Bauer." - LostHisHardcore http://i39.tinypic.com/2ps1s76.jpg |
plasmabeam | Posted 5/4/2009 9:37:32 PM | message detail |
More like "Dancing With Minimum-Wage Celebrities," m i rite? --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/4/2009 9:38:45 PM | message detail |
taggage for later --- 86/112 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Super Smash Bros. Brawl > GTA IV | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
XIII_rocks | Posted 5/4/2009 9:40:28 PM | message detail |
Doesn't
Dancing With The Stars get our cockney bloke (who's name escapes me)?
Only good thing about that show the two times I watched it. --- Justice for FD "This topic is now about Renee Walker aka Rack Bauer." - LostHisHardcore http://i39.tinypic.com/2ps1s76.jpg |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/4/2009 9:44:48 PM | message detail |
We need to get rid of some of these new users like KP and Fayt. At least Biolizard doesn't post here anymore --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 9:45:05 PM | message detail |
Masato_Tanaka Posted 5/4/2009 9:43:39 PM message detail persona 4 is still the coolest --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko transience Posted 5/4/2009 9:43:47 PM message detail play Street Fighter 4 --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png KleenexTissue50 Posted 5/4/2009 9:43:49 PM message detail Brawl sucks, Street Fighter 4 sucks, Persona 4 sucks, stats topic sucks, BT especially. --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg best chain of 3 closing posts ever IMO --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
transience | Posted 5/4/2009 9:45:49 PM | message detail |
Tim Tim was always a joke. you guys weren't joking. wanna know how many people made "attn tranny" topics when Tim got hammered? like a dozen people. and I had fun with it! same with Shadow Hearts. just let it go. BT is obnoxious, we all know this. stop responding to someone who's trying to be annoying. --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 9:45:55 PM | message detail |
good night sweet persona --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:03 PM | message detail |
Street Fighter IV is almost done its comeback leaving Persona 4 all the more lol worthy... --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SSBB > GTAIV Points: 81/112 |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:09 PM | message detail |
Brawl sucks, Street Fighter 4 sucks, Persona 4 sucks, stats topic sucks, BT especially. Good boy, need more men like you. Go to hell No opinion Good Boy Good Boy |
ZFS | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:15 PM | message detail |
Everyone's fine so long as they don't argue for a game they like! Then we all get dumb. --- a metal slime appears |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:23 PM | message detail |
*watching 24* .......Holy **** |
transience | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:41 PM | message detail |
new users like KP he's been in this topic longer than you. unless you want to excuse yourself as well...? --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:57 PM | message detail |
17
people fell off the Top 50 today. setyouupthebomb, JgCuBe, kenrmcha19,
TheKnightOfNee, stalfo18, SenelCoolidge, Heroic_Rufus, Heed44utmost,
rogueskateboard, Salient_0, GameCuber018, IXKyotoXI, Habito, Dasmopp,
Judicious_F, ThisSrGuy and Omnipot3nt did not have Zelda:TP > HL2 as
yesterday's winners. 18 people scored half points and survived. Former first place menji76, _gloomy, Ludwig_Von_2, mentalmike_2000, spence1891, paulg235, Dracosage, LancelotBT, ccbfan, SarahFailin, Galahad5, BlackerMagus, Axem_King, Ludwig_Von_6, DarkFalconX, Jayman4545, gogokainomega and Tendo128 also did not have Zelda:TP > HL2 as yesterday's winners. 1 person scored a single point and lived. Theo72 had something vaguely similar to Zelda:TP > HL2 as yesterday's winners. --- Shall I take you with me? To the place in this town where wishes come true... |
transience | Posted 5/4/2009 9:46:57 PM | message detail |
no 24 spoilers please --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/4/2009 9:47:04 PM | message detail |
Okay, currently Super Smash Bros. Brawl is winning and Grand Theft Auto IV is in 2nd place. Who knows what will happen, though? Brawl stays in first, GTA IV stays in second. Easy >_> --- 86/112 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Super Smash Bros. Brawl > GTA IV | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/4/2009 9:47:27 PM | message detail |
Tran Man, up for SF4 after I finish watching the Bauer Hour of Power? |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/4/2009 9:48:05 PM | message detail |
I didnt say a spoiler. and 24 doing something isnt really spoilers <_< |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 9:48:20 PM | message detail |
Everyone's fine so long as they don't argue for a game they like! Then we all get dumb. That's generally how subjectivity works unfortunately :/ --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/4/2009 9:48:35 PM | message detail |
I'm so glad I didn't stick with SF4 in second place. What a horrible performance. tranny, you better still be doing winners and turds. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:01 PM | message detail |
Next year I'm going to argue against all my favorite characters. --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:05 PM | message detail |
Time to hype Pokemon Diamond and Pearl for second. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SSBB > GTAIV Points: 81/112 |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:12 PM | message detail |
Lost
in all this is that Brawl's come down to earth quite a lot. Below 47%
now- I'm thinking we get below 43%, maybe even 42%, tonight, before
Brawl goes back up with the day vote. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:24 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #032 I don't remember him being here before 2007 --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:37 PM | message detail |
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:47 PM | message detail |
tranny, you better still be doing winners and turds. If he doesn't, I will... --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SSBB > GTAIV Points: 81/112 |
ZFS | Posted 5/4/2009 9:49:58 PM | message detail |
gilgamesh vs. krelian villains contest the return --- a metal slime appears |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/4/2009 9:50:14 PM | message detail |
I don't remember him being here before 2007 Are you serious? I've seen him on Board 8 for god know's how long, and the stats topic in general since at least 06. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/4/2009 9:50:32 PM | message detail |
Kleenex, if this was Facebook, I would have Liked your 500-post. Also, BT, you of all people don't need to encourage getting rid of people, considering how many of us would like for you to stay quiet or stay out of the topics. I imagine you would be the first person out of here if the topic actually actively got rid of people. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 9:50:55 PM | message detail |
persona spike !!! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/4/2009 9:50:57 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #043 gilgamesh vs. krelian villains contest the return who cares both are lame --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |