GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 702
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:13:01 PM | message detail |
the
SF games draw their popularity from the cast really,but are the likes
of Ryu/ken/chun-li more associated with the Arcade or the SNES?if it's
the latter then i can see nintendo's cast ripping it apart. Persona 4 just stands out though,every anime fan's gonna back it as will this board. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 2:16:37 PM | message detail |
Persona 4 just stands out though,every anime fan's gonna back it as will this board. And it's the only RPG in the poll. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
MnMZero | Posted 5/4/2009 2:18:23 PM | message detail |
Also,
since when does SSBB get its popularity from being a fighting game more
than it does from being an orgy of Nintendo fan service? I mean of
course there's a huge fighting meta-game within it, but I don't see a
huge "fighting game overlap" between SSB and SF among fans. If
anything, I think the overlap comes from Brawl simply being that much
more popular overall. And that's something that probably hurts all of
the games. And really, I think SF4 only needs to deal with GTA4. I don't see Persona serving as any threat to Street Fighter regardless of Brawl. Where is everyone getting the notion that Persona is a threat from? --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
Big Bob | Posted 5/4/2009 2:19:21 PM | message detail |
By another Cult RPG beating the most popular GTA game a week ago. --- Want to help out a cult classic doomed to failure in this contest? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49181355 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:20:00 PM | message detail |
Persona 4 has about the same "Own it" on Mygames as both versions of Street Fighter 4, along with a higher user average. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 2:20:25 PM | message detail |
I
think SF4 only needs to deal with GTA4. I don't see Persona serving as
any threat to Street Fighter regardless of Brawl. Where is everyone
getting the notion that Persona is a threat from? After seeing what Tales of Symphonia did, I think that Persona 4 has a chance. And again, it's the only RPG in the poll. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:22:35 PM | message detail |
if
jobber tales can beat the GTA game we all love how do you think the
game everyone loves(tales did split people) will do against the GTA
game most people don't give a damn about. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
Draco1214 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:24:01 PM | message detail |
SF4's main opponent is GTA...the strongest game in that series got last place in a poll where it was overwhelmingly favored to win. GTA hasn't done crap in these things and I don't think SF4 needs much to advance. --- Seriously owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest. Congrats! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:24:46 PM | message detail |
FACT or FICTION: Tales of Symphonia > Halo 2. FACT. I damn well wouldn't take Halo 2 over San Andreas. FACT or FICTION: World of Warcraft > Diablo 2 > Starcraft. FICTION. D2>WoW>SC. FACT or FICTION: The division will end with Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3. FICTION. RE4 or KHII would beat it. Maybe Half-Life 2. FACT or FICTION: FFX will not SFF KH in R2 or R3. FICTION. There will be overlap. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:25:47 PM | message detail |
And anyone thinking Persona 4 won't be a threat... ToS>P4. But SA>>GTAIV. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:26:00 PM | message detail |
Right
now the safe money is likely on SSBB > SF4. But its not impossible
that Persona 4 advances. Anyone who doesn't give it a chance obviously
didn't see ToS. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/4/2009 2:27:40 PM | message detail |
FACT or FICTION: Tales of Symphonia > Halo 2. FACT or FICTION: World of Warcraft > Diablo 2 > Starcraft. FACT or FICTION: The division will end with Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3. FACT or FICTION: FFX will not SFF KH in R2 or R3. FACT: I probably wouldn't take Halo 2 to beat San Andreas. FICTION: Switch D2 woth WoW and we're good. FICTION: I think RE4 has a chance. FICTION: There will be overlap. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
creativename | Posted 5/4/2009 2:28:01 PM | message detail |
Persona
was one of two games in the bracket I'd never heard of. It's not going
to get the respect that other games did based off media attention.
Persona will be quite weak. And Brawl will wreck this poll. GTA and SF4 could flop hard yet still finish comfortably ahead of Persona. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:29:13 PM | message detail |
after
seeing SFII job to Sonic of all games and the indifference towards
GTAIV,i mean look at how GTAIV did in the GotY poll,if anything games
that did well do worse and GTA didn't exactly cover itself in
glory,P4's honestly got a shot(though i got SFIV advancing),but yeah
it's got that kirby standout factor. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:30:12 PM | message detail |
What
are you talking about? Considering it's a PS2 game released in 2008,
both Persona 3 and 4 got a lot of attention. P3 won RPG GotY in many
places and P4 got 9+ scores across the board. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Chaotic Mind | Posted 5/4/2009 2:30:15 PM | message detail |
From: voltch | #107 I'm fairly sure Tales is more well-known in the mainstream. And TOS was the only Nintendo/kiddy option. Persona 4 is not, and it also has the problem of being released on a system that's all but dead. --- Flash runs alongside Balefire watching marshmallows stop existing. - WarThaNemesis2 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:30:53 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #113 What was the other game you'd never heard of? And You will be quite surprised, its as close to a ToS we've had in recent years, in terms of a incredibly popular cult rpg on gamefaqs --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/4/2009 2:30:56 PM | message detail |
I
think Persona 4 is an upset-pick that's simply getting a lot of
attention since RPGs and especially ToS have done well. Its
GotY-showing this past year doesn't warrant this kind of pick, however,
though GotY-polls haven't stopped several games games yet... ...it's all about SF4/GTA4 for me though, and I like GTA4. SF2 bombed and -- loyalty be damned -- SF4's not going to match SF2. That's not a very high mark for GTA4 to hit, and maybe being the most recent GTA actually helps (though it's not like we'll easily ever be able to tell, so I hope I-told-you-so rants by the likes of BT will be spared if GTA4 does win, especially since GTA4 is the favorite anyway). It doesn't hurt that SSBB is in the poll, either, though I don't really agree with the theory of SSBB bothering SF4 much. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/4/2009 2:31:20 PM | message detail |
Persona
was one of two games in the bracket I'd never heard of. It's not going
to get the respect that other games did based off media attention.
Persona will be quite weak. Anecdotal evidence? Well I'm convinced. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MnMZero | Posted 5/4/2009 2:31:30 PM | message detail |
Oblivion
and Tales of Symphonia aren't cult. Tales of Symphonia is one of the
best RPGs on a system starved of them and got plenty of attention. It
battled MP2 for GotY and easily beat out Paper Mario 2 and everything
else in the poll. Oblivion has a solid base across 3 systems and has
always performed well in polls on this site. I know non-contest polls shouldn't be taken as bond, but... what has Persona done? Dominate a GotY poll for a system with few releases before performing lacklusterly in the final poll? I know doing well in a GotY poll doesn't translate to contest success, but when has a game that performed poorly in a similar poll done well? That's an honest question, as I haven't exactly looked and am interested in the answer! --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:32:30 PM | message detail |
Persona 4 has about the same "Own it" on Mygames as both versions of Street Fighter 4, along with a higher user average. TES IV: Oblivion - 3566 (PS3 + 360 + PC) GTA: San Andreas - 2678 (PS2 + Xbox + PC) Tales of Symphonia - 1832 (GC + PS2) God of War - 1280 (PS2) >_> They don't matter --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/4/2009 2:32:53 PM | message detail |
FACT or FICTION: Tales of Symphonia > Halo 2. Fiction. Tales benefitted from being a very standoutish game in it's poll. FACT or FICTION: World of Warcraft > Diablo 2 > Starcraft. I still think Starcraft > Diablo, but I want to see round 2 before making a decision here. FACT or FICTION: The division will end with Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3. Fiction. It will be the winner of RE4/KH2. FACT or FICTION: FFX will not SFF KH in R2 or R3. Fiction. We've already seen Sora SFF and get SFF'd by Final Fantasy characters, and FFX overlaps a lot more with Sora than Aeris or Squall. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:33:03 PM | message detail |
Also don't forget Persona 4 is actually the best selling Atlus game ever. It has sold 600k, which is very good for a non FF RPG. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/4/2009 2:34:21 PM | message detail |
And
while not as bad as Earthbound advancing, this Persona 4 advancing idea
is ridiculous. I'd never even heard of the game until the GotY poll. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:35:29 PM | message detail |
Considering how Persona 4 won GotY on Board 8, both of you must've picked some nice rocks to crawl under for a while. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:36:20 PM | message detail |
And
while not as bad as Earthbound advancing, this Persona 4 advancing idea
is ridiculous. I'd never even heard of the game until the GotY poll. Maybe people are suffering from "weak" game fear? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108 |
creativename | Posted 5/4/2009 2:36:32 PM | message detail |
Anecdotal evidence? Well I'm convinced. Interested in a sig bet then? I say Persona gets under 16.5%. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:37:19 PM | message detail |
And unlike some of the Board 8 fad games, Persona 4 is actually very well respected among gaming sites, too. http://www.gamerankings.com/ps2/945498-shin-megami-tensei-persona-4/index.html --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:38:06 PM | message detail |
I
mean, seriously. There are some games you should know about just by
virtue of being on Board 8. People wouldn't shut up about Persona 3:
FES, and then they wouldn't shut up about Persona 4 (especially when
the 9+ review started rolling in), and then it beat Brawl for GotY in
match that scored like 100 votes, pretty good for a board contest. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MnMZero | Posted 5/4/2009 2:38:26 PM | message detail |
Are you bringing up GotY on Board 8 as serious evidence? And I hope that crawling from under a rock wasn't pointed at me. I know very well what Persona is. Still don't see much pointing it to it being popular enough on this site to beat out a GTA and SF game. Symphonia is a different case altogether. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:38:47 PM | message detail |
Since we love to use GotY polls for whatever reason... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2985 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108 |
MnMZero | Posted 5/4/2009 2:39:42 PM | message detail |
Ha, didn't see BT's post. I guess I rescind the question of whether crawling from under a rock was pointed at me! --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:39:54 PM | message detail |
It
was directed at creative and BT, and how ridiculous their anecdotal
evidence is. Persona 4 could be very weak, but "I've never heard of it"
is not the way to go, especially here. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:40:31 PM | message detail |
Persona 3 would get stomped, I don't think anyone is debating this. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:40:41 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #131 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3352 --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/4/2009 2:42:06 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3363 Countered! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:42:58 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3363®ion=ASI Hah, Persona 4 beat SSBB in Asia in that poll. We might have Persona 4 in first in Asia tomorrow! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/4/2009 2:43:46 PM | message detail |
Interested in a sig bet then? I say Persona gets under 16.5%. Oh no, I have no faith in Persona whatsoever. It's just that your argument isn't convincing. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:44:23 PM | message detail |
Either way, the board vote will be fun to watch (if people can get their minds out of their BRACKETS for a change!). --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:44:34 PM | message detail |
yaaaaa,no
one fell for my fake P4 hype,oh well even if it is the best game 12% is
what it's aiming for really,15% at best,but with brawl taking up
anything between 36 and 48% i wonder how things will pan out. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:45:40 PM | message detail |
Anyway,
I don't take 10 way goty polls very seriously. The fanbases are all
thrown around, who knows how strong the games really are. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:45:44 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3352 lol no competition. Persona 3 (though 4 should be stronger) got crushed by God of War II, I would be shocked if Persona 4 did anything unless Brawl is going for 60%. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108 |
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:47:57 PM | message detail |
come
to think of it for that GoTY poll there were 2 square RPGs and P4
wasn't released in europe,it got 4k from 90,i say 16k votes ought to be
good enough. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/4/2009 2:49:19 PM | message detail |
but
when has a game that performed poorly in a similar poll done well?
That's an honest question, as I haven't exactly looked and am
interested in the answer! Uh...let's see. SotC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247 ToS: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1870 KHII (at least compared to how it did in its matchO: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622 MGS3: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622 I'm sure there are others. It isn't that uncommon. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/4/2009 2:51:09 PM | message detail |
Can we all agree that GotY polls are useless and won't give us any insight of what will happen. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108 |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 5/4/2009 2:51:49 PM | message detail |
I
won't be surprised if Brawl pulls 50% in that poll, which gives Persona
or SF4 somewhat of a shot. And I still think GTA4 will bomb to hell and
back, but we'll see. --- A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/4/2009 2:52:21 PM | message detail |
Yeah, but then look at Netherlands...that could get brutal for Persona 4! Pretty much, I need reason to believe why a game that got 37.33% on FO3 in the multi-GotY from January should lose to a game that got 19.67% on FO3 in the overall-GotY from January. Persona's expected to get 34.51% right now and GTA4 can't easily be anti-voted in this format, too. That's a big gap suggested by recent and relevant polls. ToS > GTA:SA aside, I don't see why Persona 4 is close to either of them or GTA4. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/4/2009 2:53:08 PM | message detail |
That's
Subsistence for MGS3, not really a fair way of comparing it. I'd much
rather just go with using Okami's performance from that very same poll. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/4/2009 2:54:58 PM | message detail |
If you throw out MGS: Substance, then Persona 3: FES should be thrown out against God of War 2. They're both directors cuts. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
voltch | Posted 5/4/2009 2:55:03 PM | message detail |
P4
only has a shot if in the short time since that Goty more word of mouth
has spread,though i don't think it's EU release will help it,people
have a thing against games where your standing still,hitting,then get
hit,it's the most common reason for people not liking RPGs. i reckon of the bottom 3 EU might favour a fighting game,the publicity for DCvsMK and SFIV has been huge. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |