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RPGs were lways strong here though,it's what keeps this site different and more exciting than the rest of the internet.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

SSBM > FFX had 82k votes, after that 30k PotD

The 2006 GotY had 100k votes, and todays match will likely have about 120k-125k.

Its not close at all.
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I'm arguing that TP dropped while FFXII went up since 2k6 because different people now go to the site.


Then how is this perfomance not horrible if TP is doing almost 10% worse than it did on FF12 two years ago?

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RPGs were lways strong here though,it's what keeps this site different and more exciting than the rest of the internet.

Square RPGs and almost nothing else were always strong, you mean.
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What I'm trying to say is that using the 2006 GotY is like using the 2k5 stats to predict the last character contest.

Also if the poll had comparable vote totals the result would have been the same.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

the combination of XII hate and TP hype love must be a factor,love of TP has cooled down as has hate for XII,but aren't we forgetting another factor here?
PW is stealing the japanese vote from FFXII.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Then how is this perfomance not horrible if TP is doing almost 10% worse than it did on FF12 two years ago?

If anyone thought that TP was going to be as high as it was in 2006 was crazy. We've just saw Nintendo characters not being as dominate last contest and we've watched each Final Fantasy meet or impress this round (except FFVI, but it dropping was expected). Just yesterday we watched Gears of War get crushed while Kingdom Hearts II went toe for toe against RE4, even taking SFF into account what happen was not possible under 2006 GotY.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

the combination of XII hate and TP hype love must be a factor,love of TP has cooled down as has hate for XII,but aren't we forgetting another factor here?
PW is stealing the japanese vote from FFXII.

PW isn't that favoured in Japan...
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

If anyone thought that TP was going to be as high as it was in 2006 was crazy. We've just saw Nintendo characters not being as dominate last contest and we've watched each Final Fantasy meet or impress this round (except FFVI, but it dropping was expected). Just yesterday we watched Gears of War get crushed while Kingdom Hearts II went toe for toe against RE4, even taking SFF into account what happen was not possible under 2006 GotY.


Babe Ruth gets a billion touchdowns in 2006. He aged and wasn't expected to do as well in 2008 but nobody could say for sure. He scores 11 touchdowns in 2008. His performance was terrible and he gets put at risk for losing to Kingdom Hearts 2 and Resident Evil 4 next round.

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hochi'd
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Babe Ruth gets a billion touchdowns in 2006. He aged and wasn't expected to do as well in 2008 but nobody could say for sure. He scores 11 touchdowns in 2008. His performance was terrible and he gets put at risk for losing to Kingdom Hearts 2 and Resident Evil 4 next round.

So we're you not expecting FFXII not to become stronger while all the other Final Fantasys do? Twilight Princess has this division, not because it's anything special, but because this division is weak.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

I don't think anyone expected FF12 to get stronger. It was actually somewhat liked in 2006 but has had a bad legacy overall
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Death to capitalism.
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From: charmander6000 | #057
the combination of XII hate and TP hype love must be a factor,love of TP has cooled down as has hate for XII,but aren't we forgetting another factor here?
PW is stealing the japanese vote from FFXII.

PW isn't that favoured in Japan...

by now you should know i love to pull explanations outta my ass,I once tried to explain that games=characters using starcraft/FFVI and FFIV as prime examples.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

Well I thought you were going to pull that PW defeated Bowser in round 1 in Japan last year. That was because Mario characters aren't favoured there. He easily lose to Liquid Snake in round 2
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

I think everybody's missing the obvious thing in hochi's argument: there are no touchdowns in baseball!
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Prototype
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why did they call the vietnamese charlie during that war?
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

I think everybody's missing the obvious thing in hochi's argument: there are no touchdowns in baseball!

Who said that we were talking about the baseball player?
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

PW isn't that favoured in Japan...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3249&region=ASI
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3278&region=ASI

It is pretty good, but not favored above MGS, and it might have been lucky with the competition.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3266&region=ASI

even with Cloud in the poll, Edgeworth falls less then the other characters in the poll.
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It may be above average, but nowhere close to Final Fantasy.

Also Asia hates LoZ...
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > HL2 Points: 77/108

Seems like Asia has good taste then!
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I can't believe Twilight Princess is beating Half-Life 2. That is blasphemous.
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Huh. Didn't expect HL2 to take this after how Half Life lost to FF9. What do you guys think is the case among these options:

A) HL2 is legitimately stronger than HL, FFXII is at FFIX's level.

B) FFXII is bombing harder than Bomberman, HL2 is at HL's level.

C) HL2 is weaker than HL, FFXII is performing as expected, and this is a fourpack of rats.

Any ideas about what's the case?

HL2 > HL
FFIX > FFXII

Neither of those should be startling revelations to anyone.
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I think XII is closer to IX than most people seem to think
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Today's prediction: Twilight 38.27% - Sky Pirate 23.89% - Half-Life 2 19.92% - Phoenix 17.92%
Status: crappy

Well, if Half-Life 2 can 60/40 the original before SFF, that means it would be right on FFIX's heels, meaning XII would indeed be respectably close. The jury's out on whether HL2 is that strong, though - that would be some impressive pop.
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I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

That's FF9 with CC in the poll, for the record. I figure FF9's got at least a little bit of a gap between it and FF12 after their matches, though there's no doubt HL2 has distanced itself from the original HL.
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Prototype
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It's time for Bob's totally crazy analysis on why Persona 4 will get second in its poll.

Let's start by overanalyzing this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3470

Only crazies expected Tales of Symphonia to do anything in that poll. San Andreas, God of War, and Oblivion are all high-profile mainstream titles, while ToS is a cult jRPG for the worst-selling console of the last generation. However, this poll tells us that jRPGs still have a fanbase on this site, no matter how obscure, and they're fully capable of beating mainstream titles if given the opportunity. Okami came close to Halo 2 despite no games in the poll being able to sap Halo's strength. This is more relating to newer RPGs than older ones, but ultimately, RPG fans are a rabid bunch, and I imagine Shin Megami Tensei has the kind of fanbase so rabid that they'll easily vote for it over anything. Combine that with the fact that none of the other games in the poll would draw the same kind of audience, and it looks good.

And here's another point: we've never seen Shin Megami Tensei in any contest before. Before Persona 3, the biggest-name SMT game would be Nocturne, released too late to be part of the 2004 contest, and too early for people to remember to nominate it for the series contest. Since then, Persona 3 was released, and made a pretty big splash; I think it's safe to say that most people's familiarity with the series started with P3. And, of course, P3 is beloved by fans. So why didn't any Persona characters make it into the 2007 and 2008 character battles? If you've played the game, you'll know that it suffers from FFVI syndrome, in the fact that there's a large ensemble cast, and the main character doesn't have a name. Aigis is the only character that could be considered the "face" of Persona 3, but she doesn't show up until 25 hours into the game. Thanks to the large cast, no character could really be decided on to represent the series, so it just passes by the character battles.

However, it still made its mark. Persona 4 may not be a mainstream title, but among us forumgoing nerds it was a huge release. Great reviews all over the place, made a good Christmas present, and even if you missed it Amazon.com put it up as the Dead of the Day a few months ago, and apparently even Kotaku thought this was worth telling everybody about:

http://kotaku.com/5159061/persona-4-is-your-deal-of-the-day

And as I've found out first-hand, that's plenty of time to get familiar with the game and its characters.

But let's stop talking about P4 and talk about its competition for a moment. Grand Theft Auto IV. Most people easily agreed it would take second here. After all, GTA is a big-name franchise, and there aren't any other casual-bloodthirsty games in the poll to suck away its votes. Well...so far GTA's been pretty disappointing. GTAIII lost easily, and San Andreas lost to three games it was supposed to slaughter. Vice City looked pretty good, and KHII's recent performance just makes it look better. However, I'm still guessing that Paper Mario sapped MP's strength and Gears of War did a number on Resident Evil 4, so those games should be stronger than they're letting on. On top of that, despite critical acclaim, GTAIV hasn't gone over very well with the fans. I haven't played the game myself, so I can't say for sure, but general consensus seems that the game was a disappointment. But it's still the only game catered to the casual audience, right?

Enter Brawl. Despite message board fanatics, Brawl has sold well and it's available for the best-selling console this generation. Everybody has played it. When your friends are over looking for something to do, Brawl's right there. The huge cast including characters like Snake and Sonic would draw people to the game who've never played Melee before. Brawl's gonna do a huge number on this poll, and GTA is going to feel the brunt of it. Sounds crazy, but voters are going to vote for familiarity.

And what of Street Fighter IV? Well, I doubt much needs to be said. Street Fighter II lost to Sonic the Hedgehog, who somehow managed to lose to both Super Mario Kart and Super Metroid. And that's the game that's been well-known for years and years and has had plenty of time to establish a hardcore fanbase. Street Fighter IV is too recent for that; a fighting game prides itself on its longetivity and devoted fanbase, and considering SFIV's only been out a couple of months, it just won't be able to hold up, especially with another fighting game in the poll. Believe it or not, the two games DO share a fanbase; I've seen plenty of SFIV discussion on Smashboards.

GTAIV and SFIV are also both on the 360 and PS3, meaning that they'll split voHAHAHAHA sorry I can't finish that sentence with a straight face.

For the tl;dr-ers:

Brawl wrecks the poll
Persona is gonna target GTA's weakness and hit it with an all-out attack
Nobody cares about Street Fighter

Persona 4 has about the same "Own it" on My games as the PS3/360 versions of Street Fighter 4, along with a higher user rating. It beating SF4 wouldn't surprise me.
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Oh, hey, Division #7 down:

FACT or FICTION: Tales of Symphonia > Halo 2.
FACT or FICTION: World of Warcraft > Diablo 2 > Starcraft.
FACT or FICTION: The division will end with Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3.
FACT or FICTION: FFX will not SFF KH in R2 or R3.
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1. Fiction, Tales of Symphonia jsut did better because it stood out.
2. Fiction, I'd make it Diablo 2 > WoW > Starcraft
3. Fiction, it will be TP > WoW
4. Fiction, we saw Squall/Cloud SFF Sora.
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FACT or FICTION: Tales of Symphonia > Halo 2.
FICTION. Certainly not in a straight match, and probably not in this format, either.

FACT or FICTION: World of Warcraft > Diablo 2 > Starcraft.
FICTION. Diablo gets the nod from me at the moment.

FACT or FICTION: The division will end with Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > Metal Gear Solid 3.
FACT. I still think RE4 has a shot, but safe money is on MGS3 after watching them both.

FACT or FICTION: FFX will not SFF KH in R2 or R3.
Fiction. KH will get hurt. There's no way I seeing it putting 61% on Vice City again.
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3. Fiction, it will be TP > WoW

I thought you recently said there was no way WoW can avoid fourth place in R3.


4. Fiction, we saw Squall/Cloud SFF Sora.

Not sure how good of a reason that is to say fiction -- Cloud's in the mix, and Sora was close to Squall both with and without Cloud (as well as with Aeris instead of Cloud).
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Prototype
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I thought you recently said there was no way WoW can avoid fourth place in R3.

That was before I saw how weak RE4 and TP are. RE4/MGS3 will sff quite a good amount, plus its the tail end of a possible 3 matches in a row with Blizzard matches, so fans rallied for the previous two have a good shot on checking this match as well.
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I guess I should have noted about that last FoF: I meant in comparison to FFX. I think it's understood they'll LFF each other and allow other competition to catch up, but do you think KH will hold up to FFX for two rounds?
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I might as well post this here as well

I don't know why everyone is thinking that SF2's performance is pathetic. You simply didn't do your research. A Street Fighter game is never going to dominate a match unless the opposition is just pathetic.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3398

Like 30%+ of this site don't like Street Fighter games at all, enough that they'd rather state this than simply choosing which one they liked the best, even if they didn't like the series as a whole.

BUT, those that do like Street Fighter games like them a lot. Enough to give SF4 a fighting chance to get second place. I know games =/= characters, but look how Ryu performs in these contests, especially 4 ways... SF4 definitely has a good chance of advancing.

SSBB > SF4 SON!
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I don't know why everyone is thinking that SF2's performance is pathetic. You simply didn't do your research. A Street Fighter game is never going to dominate a match unless the opposition is just pathetic.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3398

Like 30%+ of this site don't like Street Fighter games at all, enough that they'd rather state this than simply choosing which one they liked the best, even if they didn't like the series as a whole.

BUT, those that do like Street Fighter games like them a lot. Enough to give SF4 a fighting chance to get second place. I know games =/= characters, but look how Ryu performs in these contests, especially 4 ways... SF4 definitely has a good chance of advancing.

SSBB > SF4 SON!

You DO realize that Brawl's quite likely to hurt it, right...?
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Why would a party game hurt a fighting game?
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SSBB>>>SFIV with ease.

Also this division is ending with RE4>>KH2.
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The only way SFIv isn't hurt by Brawl is if SFIV's match pic has Dan staring down the voters.
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For Street Fighter to have any type of shot, it needs to rely on Brawl to ransack the poll. The problem here is that Brawl is (wait for the flames) also a fighting game, and a much more popular one. Even if you're willing to argue that it isn't, Brawl is much more similar to SFIV than it is to the other two games. Plus, SFII's competition was pathetic. The bottom two games were pure fodder, Sonic has shown to be weak, and SFII still lost easily. That's a bad sign, especially when in conjunction with the awful poll numbers SFIV put up prior to release.

Personally, I think Street Fighter will be helped more by its recency than it will by a devoted fanbase, but it seems like a lost cause.
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I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

They're fighting games, but in the sense that NBA Hangtime and NBA 2k9 are basketball games. I doubt SSBB/SF4 bother each other all that much.
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #091
Why would a party game hurt a fighting game?

Brawl is not a party game. Brawl is a Wii Music type of game.
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I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

Why would a party game hurt a fighting game?

I thought you were the one who originally brought up Brawl hurting SFIV?
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fighting game SFF?Or nostalgic characters SFF?
either way i want P4 to go out with a bang,oh and don't forget there's gonna be some massive 4 LFF,those with a fetish with the number 4 are gonna get a field day,3 titles with 4 and an acronym with 4 letters,yep big 4 LFF.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455

From: Fayt_Esteed | #097
Why would a party game hurt a fighting game?

I thought you were the one who originally brought up Brawl hurting SFIV?

I never said that.
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You're taking the genre thing a bit too seriously right there methinks if you're automatically assuming that SFIV is going to suffer significantly from same-Genre SFF or something. Brawl and Street Fighter are about as far away as one can be within the same genre.
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