GameFAQs Contests

You'd expect Fallout 3 to be anywhere near Halo 3s level after seeing how well Xbox/PC Wrpgs have done compared to Halos flops?

I think my post came off wrong, I said Fallout 3 > Halo 3 will happen. What I should have emphasized is that ME and L4D will put pressure on those two games and will not be lagging behind by much. After watching Halo 1 and 2 bomb, I would not be shocked if it ended up Fallout 3 > Mass Effect at this point.
---
Today's Subliminal Thought Is:

I'm really skeptical on SSBB and SMG both advancing to R3. They're both going to hurt each other decently already and GTA4/CoD4 aren't jokes (though not on SSBB's/SMG's untampered levels), and now there's a chance that R2 will be SSBB/SMG/Pokemon/GTA4...GTA should be able to beat two of them in that kind of situation, and I still like CoD4 ousting Pokemon in R1 and either SSBB (my bet!) or SMG in R2. FPSs so far be damned, CoD4 is still the hottest one on the market in recent years here as far as GameFAQs is concerned, and it killed Halo 3 at its own game. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt until it bombs.
---
Prototype
Shorthand, do you speak it?!

And people thinking Fallout 3 will follow the same path other FPS games are following.

It isn't an FPS.

Some Fallout fans will cut you for calling it an FPS.
---
Today's Subliminal Thought Is:

and now there's a chance that R2 will be SSBB/SMG/Pokemon/GTA4

Or SSBB/SMG/Pokemon/Persona 4...or Street Fighter IV. Neither would surprise me at this point.

---
http://thengamer.com/guru/

I see it didn't take long for everyone to jump on to the next hyped game!

I'm not buying the Fallout 3 hype. It'll do well, but it's not going to have monster strength or anything.

---
a metal slime appears

Lets say its GTA4/SSBB/Galaxy/CoD4

Do you guys think GTA4/CoD4 can hurt eachother through the casual votes to not let either beat SSBB/Galaxy?
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

I think GTA4 will bomb, wouldn't surprise me if it dropped R1 to SF4. After watching GTA:SA, the most popular and successful GTA game in the entire series lose to Oblivion and freaking Tales of Symphonia...I have no faith in GTA4.

That game still gets mixed reactions if you talk about it in GTA circles.
---
Today's Subliminal Thought Is:

Lets say its GTA4/SSBB/Galaxy/CoD4

Do you guys think GTA4/CoD4 can hurt eachother through the casual votes to not let either beat SSBB/Galaxy?

To answer this question: yes, either because of SSBB and Galaxy having their own vote bases or via casual vote sapping...it will be SSBB > Galaxy at the end of the day.
---
Today's Subliminal Thought Is:

I'm not buying the Fallout 3 hype. It'll do well, but it's not going to have monster strength or anything.

Same. I'm expecting it to win, but not in dominant fashion.
---
I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

I would sooner think Persona 4 advances than Street Fighter IV does. After seeing Street Fighter II lose to Sonic, and then seeing Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 bomb...not to mention having the 2nd-most popular fighting game on the site in the poll for possible overlap.

---
http://thengamer.com/guru/

GTA has tanked harder than SF has, that's what I was getting at. It won't be because SF4 is strong or anything, just that GTA has tanked so hard in this contest it's not even funny.
---
Today's Subliminal Thought Is:

From: SonicRaptor | #111
GTA has tanked harder than SF has, that's what I was getting at. It won't be because SF4 is strong or anything, just that GTA has tanked so hard in this contest it's not even funny.

Thats why Persona 4 is the upset special now ... !
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

I'm expecting Fallout 3 to win in dominant fashion because of how bad the pack is, not because of its strength.
---
yzzyx

Even if Fallout 3 flops strength wise, it should still be strong enough to get to round 3 just because of how weak those 2 matches are
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

Also not sure if it'll matter at all, but the biggest expansion to Fallout 3 so far is releasing this week (Raising level cap from 20-30, new perks, new areas, etc). Might get people into playing Fallout 3 again this week, and vote for Fallout 3.
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

and GTA4/CoD4 aren't jokes

Are you sure that GTA4 isn't a joke? :)

CoD4 should have good strength though. I do have some doubts about it being a real force, but it shouldn't flop.

I have a lot more faith in Fallout 3. I had some doubts on Fallout 3, but those have for the most part dissipated. I place very little value in PotDs and much of the pre-contest belief in Fallout came from them. There's a lot better reasons to like Fallout 3 now though, those PotDs might well underrate it.


I see it didn't take long for everyone to jump on to the next hyped game!

I'm not buying the Fallout 3 hype. It'll do well, but it's not going to have monster strength or anything.

I'm not sure what your definition of monster is, but I expect Fallout 3 to just wreck it's 1st round pack. For my own definition I'd peg Fallout at, say, pseudo-monster level.

Like I said - I could definitely see Fallout 3 being one of the top stars of the whole contest. I'm thinking Fallout 3 is being solidly underhyped right now.


I'm expecting Fallout 3 to win in dominant fashion because of how bad the pack is, not because of its strength.

I'm expecting it to be because of both things.

I think Persona is being overhyped - although it could still advance because GTA4 could be a total chump, and I don't have much faith in SF4. I have more faith in SF4 than in Persona, but if GTA and SF are very weak Persona could advance. I don't think Persona could advance based on it's own strength, it needs the other games to flop horribly (which they well could).
---
gamefaqscontests.com
gamefaqscontests.com/gallery

Persona 4 is a game that should put up 16-18% if Okami, SotC, and other "Hardcore fanbase" games can do that. Whether thats enough or not, I'm not sure. SSBB should wreck the poll though
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

I'm thinking Fallout 3 is being solidly underhyped right now.

I disagree. Fallout 3 is already favored to make it into Round 3, and I don't think anyone is disputing its favorite status over the Halos, Left 4 Deads, and Portals of the world right now. Asking for any more out of it, however, is probably asking for too much. I doubt it makes it any further unless Brawl and Galaxy are both in the Round 3 match.
---
I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

It's possible that Brawl and Galaxy make it to round 3, if Pokemon D/P is present and if Brawl destroyed its 4-pack.

You know I just remembered Twilight Princess is the only Nintendo game in division 7.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > KHII Points: 73/104

KH2 is less than 600 votes away from RE4. Maybe it'll be close vote-wise, but no chance of a successful comeback.
---
The Gamer In Me
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158

Call of Duty is the only that can stop Brawl and Galaxy from both making it to round 3. And right now it's difficult to predict what happens there - CoD4 especially has a wide range. And Galaxy might not be a big force either. I think Galaxy will do fine but it has more downside risk than Brawl.

I disagree. Fallout 3 is already favored to make it into Round 3, and I don't think anyone is disputing its favorite status over the Halos, Left 4 Deads, and Portals of the world right now. Asking for any more out of it, however, is probably asking for too much.

I, obviously, disagree :) I can't see it being very much weaker than MGS4 - it should be right there with it, and potentially stronger. It could even be neutrally stronger than Galaxy, without LFF. I think many of us would think MGS4 is neutrally stronger than Galaxy (I myself have little clue how that goes), and I believe Fallout should be in the same ballpark
---
gamefaqscontests.com
gamefaqscontests.com/gallery

massive vote gain ahaha
---
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC

The lead is now the same as it was 3 hours ago. Whoo comeback
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.

We've moved about 50 votes in the last two hours.
---
I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

*four hours
---
I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #117
Persona 4 is a game that should put up 16-18% if Okami, SotC, and other "Hardcore fanbase" games can do that. Whether thats enough or not, I'm not sure. SSBB should wreck the poll though

I agree that P4 will probably be in that range, but i don't think it'll be enough. SF4 might drop that low if Brawl beats it down enough, but even with GTA bombing left and right i'd be surprised if GTA4 didn't break 20%
---
Flash runs alongside Balefire watching marshmallows stop existing. - WarThaNemesis2

Disgaea put up 15% against Melee and an SFF'D Wind Waker. I can afford Persona a couple more percentage points against what is still likely weaker competition, but that's probably not enough to make it. Brawl would have to massacre everything in sight.
---
I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh
Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him.

Any logic that relies on 'hardcore fanbase' logic instantly invalidates itself.

However mid to upper teens for Persona sounds possible (I'd guess low teens but it could do better than that). And I could definitely see all non-Brawl games being under 20%. Brawl might get 50% there.
---
gamefaqscontests.com
gamefaqscontests.com/gallery

Wait does all of those random bars that UltimaterializerX wrote on the first page? All I understand is KH2. Help plz

---
...

The thing I'm looking forward to most about FO3 is how it does with and without MGS4. I'm pretty convinced FO3 didn't get to touch the PS3's fanbase in the GotY-polls due to MGS4 getting monstrous votes despite PS3-ownership, so to see it without MGS4 (or even LBP) with mainly-360 games will be an interesting change of pace I want to see.
---
Prototype
Shorthand, do you speak it?!

Wait does all of those random bars that UltimaterializerX wrote on the first page? All I understand is KH2. Help plz

I don't think I understand what you're asking. The first post is pretty clear and self-explanatory.....it's just a listing of a few contest-related websites, followed by an explanation of how to calculate x-stats, and then a brief explanation of a few terms we throw around in this topic.
---
Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

^ thx red sox
---
...

There's no reason at all to believe the most recent game in a series/genre is the strongest. Let's look at some series and ask ourselves if that is true:

Depends entirely on the series. Take something like Gran Turismo or Madden, or Mario Kart/Smash. Games that don't change the formula between installments will usually be like that. Which is why San Andreas WAS top dog until GTA4 came out.
---
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg

http://kotaku.com/5235999/week-in-games-steel-drums

BTW thats the Fallout 3 release I was talking about this week that might help it do better. Its apparently the biggest gaming release this week even though its not even a full game lol
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

1) I think Madden's probably the only example you mentioned that actually applies, and that's because it's annually coming out and it only changes if the sport of football changes.

2) I would bet money Mario Kart Wii doesn't beat Mario Kart 64 and SSBB doesn't beat SSBM.
---
Prototype
Shorthand, do you speak it?!

The strongest Mario Kart game is probably Mario Kart 64, and the strongest Smash game is probably Melee. Those aren't exactly the most recent games out there. As for other series like GTA or Gran Turismo, what exactly is the evidence supporting this theory? It's beginning to feel a lot like the hardcore fanbase theory- lots of speculation, not a single result that backs it up.

Now, it does seem to be true that games can be quite strong when they are released, and fall off pretty steeply over the next year or 2. This doesn't show that the level at which the most recent game stabilizes should be higher than previous games in the series; it doesn't even say too much about whether or not the peak when it is first released should be higher than the strength of previous games (that varies a lot by game/series).
---
Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

I can see SSBB being indirectly stronger.
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

Hmm... at the rate KH2 has been cutting since 8, it will win with a little less then 100 votes.
---
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif

Resident Evil 4 decided to increase the lead from 586 to 628 on that last update. Hmmm...
---
78/104 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest
NP: Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts II | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4

There's a lot of potential weird factors that could flip this result next round. If FF12 advances as now expected, then most of us would presume that would hurt KH2 more than any TP hurts RE4 due to any Wii overlap; but who knows for sure. Any minor thing could alter this flip. I still think it will advance again next round but it's not certain.

If RE4 can't even make the 3rd round, that would be a huge flop for it.
---
gamefaqscontests.com
gamefaqscontests.com/gallery

This match has moved like 4 votes in 7 hours. Good god.
---
`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´
"ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing

Pretty sure he have some folks with RE4 in the finals.

Ouch
---
A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.

This match has moved like 4 votes in 7 hours. Good god.

In the end Halo 2 gained 7 votes in the last 11.5 hours.
---
Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > KHII Points: 73/104

I totally blame B8 for convincing me to take RE4 as far as I do >_<

Everyone needs a scapegoat!

I really wonder how much PS2 RE4 has, and by extension, how much of it KHII sapped away today

---
78/104 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest
NP: Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts II | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4

RE4 can still make the finals under the right circumstance.
---
`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´
"ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing

Perhaps RE4 tapped into the PS2 player base, it seems to be the only explanation as to why KH2 didnt have its beastly day vote even though it is the weekend.
---
"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus

I'm not too worried about RE4- I never expected it to be much, and it doesn't have to be. Next round having FFXII in the poll should keep it above KH2, and the round after that, the game that most realistically could push it to third is, I think, World of Warcraft, if it gets bandwagoned (presumably KH2 > MGS3 after seeing FFX defeat MGS2 soundly and both Kingdom Hearts games impress). WoW was always a risk, and this risk hasn't gotten any larger. Then in round 4 barring a surprise defeat of either TP or Brawl, both of them will be there to LFF each other out, and RE4 makes it out of its division.

It's a shame we have divisions by eras though, because the strongest games seem pretty clearly to be in the middle 4 divisions. CT, SSBM, SM64, and at least 3 of MGS/FFX/FFVIII/RBY will miss the final 8, and any of them would have made it had they been placed in one of the 2004 and later divisions. All of them but SM64 would probably make it in the first 2 divisions also.
---
Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.

Round 2: If FF12 advances, it should leech Kingdom Hearts 2. RE4 should advance.
Round 3: RE4's biggest challenge, since MGS3 and WoW are both wild cards. But if it advances...
Round 4: It's against MGS4, Galaxy/Brawl and Twilight Princess. I covered this ages ago.
Round 5: Ocarina of Time and potentially two Metal Gear Solid games, if MGS can beat FFX/Melee
---
`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´
"ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing

I have a feeling that Half-Life 2 is going to perform really well tomorrow and finish in second comfortably. Yes, I know I'm a fanboy, but this is saying something because ever since FF9 came in second, I had absolutely no faith in HL2.

I just can't get over the strength increase shown in Gordon since HL2 came out. I don't know, but I'm hoping!
---
Good Times,
Great Memories

RE4 has two semifinal matches that give it a shot at the finals: Ocarina/MGS/RE4/MGS4 and Ocarina/SSBM/RE4/TP (fourth game could also be Galaxy/Brawl or MGS4). Though I have MGS getting to the finals in my bracket, after the first round I think it's the fourth strongest game in its division and its chances of making it out and beating FFX are pretty slim. For Melee to make the semifinal match, it needs to advance in a prospective Ocarina/FFVIII/SSBM/FFX match, which is a shaky proposition. And even with three Nintendo games I'm not so sure RE4 is a given to advance there, if it does rely on a Ninty fanbase.
---
Mustache...and Green...
http://backloggery.com/rpguy96