GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 701
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 10:56:00 PM | message detail |
RE4 and KH2 being in the same poll is so perfect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsDUSxK5Fs ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
AnagramC | Posted 5/2/2009 11:04:40 PM | message detail |
Dude, and YOU complained about people making new topics at 270 posts? --- Posts look ugly without Two-line sigs. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 11:12:04 PM | message detail |
300, like always. Go cry more about moderations. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 11:12:51 PM | message detail |
And make sure you hit the posting limit with all your crying, because a day without you will be nice. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 11:14:50 PM | message detail |
There's
also an update in the first post, but I'm sure the tears blurred your
vision. Try this to fix that: http://morgamic.com/img/no-more-tears.jpg --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
AnagramC | Posted 5/2/2009 11:17:52 PM | message detail |
You
were cool back when I was sixteen Ulti, back when you had relevant
things to say, but that was five years ago. Now you're just the Contest
Topic guy. --- Posts look ugly without Two-line sigs. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 11:19:25 PM | message detail |
*puts on a care face* --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
Smurf FAQs | Posted 5/3/2009 12:19:41 PM | message detail |
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SephirothG | Posted 5/3/2009 12:32:38 PM | message detail |
Can one of you tell me the trend currently in this match (ie what percent KH2 and RE4 are currently getting this hour)? --- FastFalcon:Me :: NY:NJ My boyfriend is uncut and I laugh at him and ask him if I can put pennies in there. He doesn't appreciate it much~ Ryoko |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/3/2009 12:37:22 PM | message detail |
That's Leon/red sox's deal more than anything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "ToS reminds of my mother. It goes down a lot after 1:00 AM." -GrapefruitKing |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/3/2009 1:18:05 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
voltch | Posted 5/3/2009 1:21:48 PM | message detail |
grrrah,time to rest in peace RE4! oh wait,i don't care cos your still going through next round. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/3/2009 1:23:16 PM | message detail |
Rain or shine, you're going down KHII! --- 78/104 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts II | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
eaglesarebeasts | Posted 5/3/2009 1:25:09 PM | message detail |
Oh, and the Mega64 for SotC is legendary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqd9GiaJUos That was ****ing hilarious |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/3/2009 1:28:31 PM | message detail |
*insert cheesy Leon one-liner* --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/3/2009 1:34:12 PM | message detail |
Where's everyone going? Bingo? --- Moltar Status: ahh, there you are Match 27 - Bracket: RE4 > KH2 - Vote: RE4 (71/104) |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/3/2009 1:35:00 PM | message detail |
RE4 wins next --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
ZFS | Posted 5/3/2009 1:37:07 PM | message detail |
bring on final fantasy xii --- a metal slime appears |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/3/2009 1:37:28 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #017 bring on phoenix wright --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/3/2009 1:38:13 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #017 bring on phoenix wright --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/3/2009 1:38:14 PM | message detail |
what kleenex said --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
ZFS | Posted 5/3/2009 1:39:14 PM | message detail |
buncha phoenix wright freakz --- a metal slime appears |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/3/2009 1:40:44 PM | message detail |
Huge gains by RE4. Oh yeah! --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
AmazingKirby | Posted 5/3/2009 1:41:03 PM | message detail |
Well, so much for that. --- caps |
transience | Posted 5/3/2009 1:41:37 PM | message detail |
so much for KH2's vaunted day vote. looks like it only applies to its characters. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/3/2009 1:42:19 PM | message detail |
That
looks like game to me. I'm anxious to see whether RE4 is significantly
weaker than we thought, whether KHII is a beast, or whether it was just
taking advantage of its mature-themed competition. Even if FFXII makes
it through, though, I don't think RE4 is in the clear. Much of that
will depend on how much of its Nintendo fanbase will jump ship for
Zelda. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/3/2009 1:44:53 PM | message detail |
Uh,
remember how Halo2 cut a grand total a few hundred votes from WoW's
lead? The day vote is a lot less pronounced on the weekend. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/3/2009 1:44:55 PM | message detail |
Well it seems that KH2 hasnt been able to cut into RE4's lead, looks like its secured 1st place after all. As for FF12 i never have played it at all, i pretty much stopped playing the ff series past X. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
transience | Posted 5/3/2009 1:46:11 PM | message detail |
that had more to do with Warcraft not being ass in the day. Resident Evil has always been ass in the day. --- xyzzy |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/3/2009 1:46:22 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #027 Few hundred? More like less then 100. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/threesome.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/3/2009 1:46:46 PM | message detail |
Resident Evils not named 4. Leon's day vote is a little worse than average, but nothing bad. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/3/2009 1:46:56 PM | message detail |
Odd how that works! So, just for comparison's sake, would anybody take RE1/RE2 over SotC in RE4's place? --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
AmazingKirby | Posted 5/3/2009 1:47:01 PM | message detail |
Kingdom Hearts is known for its after-school vote, not its "it's light outside" vote. --- caps |
ZFS | Posted 5/3/2009 1:48:15 PM | message detail |
KH2
hasn't done that bad with the day vote. It's shaved off about 600 votes
from where RE4 was at its peak, and it'll probably add a couple more
hundred to that by the end of the match, maybe. I wouldn't expect RE4's
day vote to be as atrocious as old school RE, in the same way that new
school FF holds up better than old school FF. --- a metal slime appears |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/3/2009 1:48:40 PM | message detail |
So, just for comparison's sake, would anybody take RE1/RE2 over SotC in RE4's place? Yeah, I'd take either. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/3/2009 1:49:39 PM | message detail |
Halo 2 still turned what was going at 58-42% to 50-50% on that weekend. If KH could have done the same thing it would have won --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/3/2009 1:50:41 PM | message detail |
HaRRicH Posted 5/3/2009 4:09:41 PM message detail filter #493 I should clarify: RE4 > Gears > KH2. I had it too. Didn't think Kingdom Hearts would be worth enough to take on the most popular non-Halo FPS. Seems that this year, the userbase has really taken a fall back into the usual Squintendo tastes. And I thought we were finally shifting to something new. --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
transience | Posted 5/3/2009 1:52:15 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2517&type=1&seconds=60&max=0 and that's against a character with a much better day vote than Leon, and on a weekend. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
Yesmar | Posted 5/3/2009 1:56:17 PM | message detail |
I
think it's likely that Kingdom Hearts the game simply has a weaker day
vote than its characters, who gain a lot of casual support from their
appearance. Look at the first Games Contest. KH didn't have that great
of an ASV there, although it was still a strong one. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/3/2009 1:58:11 PM | message detail |
Insect lives don't compare to human lives! (sorry, there are just so many damn cheesy one-liners in RE4 I can't resist. I love the game, but they're there) --- 78/104 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Resident Evil 4 > Kingdom Hearts II | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/3/2009 1:59:48 PM | message detail |
The
trends today are still looking a lot like that Riku/Yoshi match.
Kingdom Hearts isn't even at its strongest part of the day yet. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/3/2009 2:00:51 PM | message detail |
If that's the case, then when will KH2 start blitzing? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/3/2009 2:06:10 PM | message detail |
It's
already 2 p.m. on the west coast. Even if you were waiting for a Sunday
ASV (Sunday School Vote, oh lawdy lawd), it would have gotten here two
hours ago. This will probably stall out until the finish. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/3/2009 2:07:35 PM | message detail |
We
should be approaching it right about now actually. I think that might
have more to do with Nintendo not doing so well near the end of the
poll more so than KH being stronger at the end though --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/3/2009 2:12:14 PM | message detail |
Someone asked for it earlier... 1:00 | 51.85% 2:00 | 51.77% 3:00 | 52.97% 4:00 | 52.45% 5:00 | 51.88% 6:00 | 52.60% 7:00 | 52.86% 8:00 | 50.87% 9:00 | 48.00% 10:00 | 49.74% 11:00 | 48.53% 12:00 | 50.18% 13:00 | 49.77% 14:00 | 48.73% 15:00 | 48.84% 16:00 | 48.91% 17:00 | 50.78% Not too much of a shift, I'll go do WoW/Halo 2 now --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > KHII Points: 73/104 |
voltch | Posted 5/3/2009 2:15:57 PM | message detail |
bank holiday monday tiem! i wonder if big sporting events could actually hamper certain games,imagine FPS games getting murked cos europe is too focused on the big match. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/3/2009 2:19:30 PM | message detail |
Good thing Madden's never had a match on Superbowl Sunday! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
BDawg | Posted 5/3/2009 2:22:26 PM | message detail |
Next contest should be least ignored on GameFAQs sports game evar. --- Should I start running now? |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/3/2009 2:24:20 PM | message detail |
World of Warcraft vs. Halo 2 1:00 | 52.31% 2:00 | 52.42% 3:00 | 56.30% 4:00 | 57.70% 5:00 | 60.27% 6:00 | 57.65% 7:00 | 62.40% 8:00 | 58.13% 9:00 | 54.61% 10:00 | 53.00% 11:00 | 51.96% 12:00 | 51.27% 13:00 | 51.89% 14:00 | 50.57% 15:00 | 48.46% 16:00 | 50.99% 17:00 | 48.83% 18:00 | 52.02% 19:00 | 49.54% 20:00 | 48.41% 21:00 | 50.00% 22:00 | 49.49% 23:00 | 51.86% 24:00 | 48.90% Halo wants some eurolove. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > KHII Points: 73/104 |
voltch | Posted 5/3/2009 2:26:28 PM | message detail |
awww,halo wants a slice 0f the 20k vote eurocake? wasn't it happy with its share of the 90k UScake...too bad. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |