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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 700 (God's 100 topics incoming!)

MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/2/2009 9:39:50 PM | message detail
You can't possibly tell me that the reason this is close is because of Gears of War. It's so pathetic right now that I doubt RE4 is affected by it substantially.

I think it's easier to say RE4 is just this weak. It shouldn't have been anywhere near KH in the first place.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/2/2009 9:40:10 PM | message detail
Actually, let me take that back; There's a possibly we just simply underestimated KH.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 9:40:59 PM | message detail
I don't think GoW is really hurting RE4 (maybe 1-2% at most), but the opposite.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/2/2009 9:42:28 PM | message detail
Wow, my faith in Half-Life 2 is going down by the second.

Then again, isn't Gordon Freeman stronger than Marcus Fenix?
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/2/2009 9:43:36 PM | message detail
Judging by your reactions, sounds like this doesn't bode well for RE4.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 9:43:46 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #254
Wow, my faith in Half-Life 2 is going down by the second.

Then again, isn't Gordon Freeman stronger than Marcus Fenix?


Marcus (2007c) VS Gordon Freeman (2007c)

Marcus has a strength of 20.84.
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 19.89.

Marcus wins with 52.28% of the vote!
A win of 6,189 with 135,758 total votes cast.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 9:44:04 PM | message detail

From: PegasusLover123 | #255
Judging by your reactions, sounds like this doesn't bode well for RE4.


Nope, most expected RE4 to be at least 10% over KH2.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/2/2009 9:45:03 PM | message detail
LFF is SFF

With an L
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/2/2009 9:45:28 PM | message detail
So...it's just a battle for third place, but what do you think about KH2 > FF12 in R2? Because it's hard for me to imagine FF12 or HL2 trying to do this.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/2/2009 9:45:38 PM | message detail
Yeah, Marcus is nowhere near Gordon. I wouldn't take Marcus to ever beat Scorpion or Ganondorf
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/2/2009 9:46:28 PM | message detail
FFXII better beat HL2...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 9:46:35 PM | message detail
I wasn't aware KHII vs. FFXII was ever in doubt. KH smash.

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Lopen | Posted 5/2/2009 9:46:53 PM | message detail
Yeah LFF is totally a creation of Lopen fanboys, gotta agree with BlACk TurTLE here.
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/2/2009 9:47:34 PM | message detail
Half Life 2 will win tomorrow. I have absolutely no faith in FFXII.

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/2/2009 9:49:10 PM | message detail
I wasn't aware it was consensus that KH2 > FF12! I figured the majority of us would have stood behind their shared GotY-poll and took FF12.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/2/2009 9:50:48 PM | message detail
Gordon's game has my vote. Twilight Princess is somewhat of a rehash that is missing quite a few Zelda staples (no Octoroks, magic meter, hammer, etc.) not to mention that as big of a game TP is, some parts of the game felt unnecessary to me, namely the beginning missions and the statue quest at the end. I've watched Half-Life 2 on YouTube and every part of the game seems polished.

And I think Kingdom Hearts 2 is indirectly stronger than Final Fantasy XII for some reason.
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 9:51:04 PM | message detail
I don't think any of us have any faith in FFXII doing anything. The fact that we're still considering HL2 over it should show you that!

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/2/2009 9:52:10 PM | message detail
That's probably because Gordon Freeman has already defeated FF12's most popular character, and Half-Life 2 is probably stronger than Gordon (since GF is a silent protagonist).

I stupidly took Half-Life 2 for first in tomorrow's match, though.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 9:54:30 PM | message detail
FF12 wins easy tomorrow. Show me one match this contest the only RPG didn't advance (outside of total fodder)
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/2/2009 9:56:29 PM | message detail
By all accounts the game itself shouldn't be too impressive.

The Final Fantasy name alone is probably enough to beat a Half-Life though... >_>
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 9:56:41 PM | message detail
It always amazes me how down people are on FFXII. People were just using the GotY 2006 poll to prove that KH2 has no shot, now we're saying FFXII can't take KH2.

Can't wait until tomorrow -- time to silence the doubters and the make the Balthier comparisons stop!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 9:57:54 PM | message detail
Who needs Balthier comparisons? FFXII just flat-out isn't liked that much among the FF fanbase. That's still enough to beat HL2, but anything more...eh.

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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/2/2009 9:58:30 PM | message detail
Approaching the end of the Power Hour and RE4 seems to have managed a 260 vote lead over KH2.

Think RE4 can get a 1500+ vote lead within the next 8 hours?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 9:58:53 PM | message detail
honestly I think RE4 needs 2500 to feel safe
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 9:59:26 PM | message detail
FFXII hate is overrated as anything. There are no doubt people who do dislike FFXII, but most do consider it a good game. It's not the strongest of Final Fantasy's by any means, but it'll hold its own against real competition for sure.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/2/2009 10:00:26 PM | message detail
Think RE4 can get a 1500+ vote lead within the next 8 hours?

RE4's best time will be the night vote and also the dead zone, because KH doesn't do well in Europe. It might be possible.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/2/2009 10:00:41 PM | message detail
As bad as Resident Evil typically is with the day vote, RE4 should be leagues ahead of all the other games in that sense.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:00:53 PM | message detail
FF12 rocks. Best PS2 FF

yeah I went there
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/2/2009 10:03:11 PM | message detail
honestly I think RE4 needs 2500 to feel safe

I wasn't all impressed with Halo's ASV against Diablo. Halo's ASV didn't quite seem as strong as Master Chief's ASV, which is about on par with Sora's. 1500 should be enough to possibly survive the ASV, but 2000 or higher to really be safe.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:04:18 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #279
honestly I think RE4 needs 2500 to feel safe

I wasn't all impressed with Halo's ASV against Diablo. Halo's ASV didn't quite seem as strong as Master Chief's ASV, which is about on par with Sora's. 1500 should be enough to possibly survive the ASV, but 2000 or higher to really be safe.


why does halo vs. diablo, who had much lower %, thus less total votes to worry about, have anything to do with this match
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AmazingKirby | Posted 5/2/2009 10:06:05 PM | message detail
Massive cut!!

Sort of. >_>
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 10:12:55 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 is toast. The original had every single advantage in the book over IX, and it still couldn't come close to pulling it off. This has just been an excellent contest for the traditional draws (the Square and Nintendo heavies) and an awful one for the draws we thought this site has become more accepting of (FPSes, anything from the Xbox sans the RPGs). The fact that gears is getting absolutely humiliated by Colossus isn't exactly instilling me with confidence, either. How badly can Half-Life beat Gears? Can it beat SotC at all?

Yeah, my heart and bracket are with Gordy, but safe money is on the Square rep tomorrow.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:13:38 PM | message detail
Can it beat SotC at all?

Seeing this performance, I'm not sure!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 10:17:16 PM | message detail
I'm also regretting taking Call of Duty 4 into Round 3, although at least the Nintendo reps can still kill each other with SFF there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 10:18:48 PM | message detail
I'm not sure CoD4 gets into Round 2. Diamond could very well be stronger than Galaxy.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:18:53 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, this and the Halo failures makes me even more confident in SMG > Pokemon
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 10:19:09 PM | message detail

From: transience | Posted: 5/2/2009 7:10:49 PM | #093
the finals are an exception - everyone knew what the real match was there. Snake never had a chance.


Thank you for proving the whole point.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 5/2/2009 10:19:43 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #284
although at least the Nintendo reps can still kill each other with SFF there.


Even I'm not sure about this anymore.
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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 10:22:52 PM | message detail
yeesh. if FF12 is still stronger than KH2, it would have beaten RE4. good thing KH2 is there next round.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 10:22:52 PM | message detail
Neither am I, because I'm expecting CoD4 to be weaker than what it showed in GotY voting, and also because Team Fortress 2 is a pretty similar game that will probably do what Okami and SotC have done the past few days.

I fully expect Diamond/Pearl to be several notches below the Pokemon games we've already seen, but even that might be enough to get the job done.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:24:39 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #290
Neither am I, because I'm expecting CoD4 to be weaker than what it showed in GotY voting, and also because Team Fortress 2 is a pretty similar game that will probably do what Okami and SotC have done the past few days.

I fully expect Diamond/Pearl to be several notches below the Pokemon games we've already seen, but even that might be enough to get the job done.


Plus DP is the only RPG in the match. The only time we've seen the only RPG in a match not advance was Dragon warrior 3 cuz its uber fodder. C'mon Persona, keep the trend of only RPGs advancing up ... !
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 10:42:43 PM | message detail
I'm also worried about CoD4. Casual shooters have ALL sucked in this contest, for some reason.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:44:07 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #292
I'm also worried about CoD4. Casual shooters have ALL sucked in this contest, for some reason.


Casual Shooters!? Charmander told me that Halo is the most hardcore series out there! Are you telling me he lied?!
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/2/2009 10:44:32 PM | message detail
Does make you wonder why everyone suddenly hates FPS/Strategy games all of a sudden.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 10:46:10 PM | message detail
The only first person game that hasn't disappointed thus far has been Goldeneye, and I think many would still call its performance unimpressive.

Mass Effect wins.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 10:47:00 PM | message detail
I say Goldeneye bombed given expectations and what it would have likely done a few years ago.
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 10:47:37 PM | message detail
I dunno, I think Goldeneye was definitely disappointing. That was another game people were pegging for the top 10.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 10:50:00 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #297
I dunno, I think Goldeneye was definitely disappointing. That was another game people were pegging for the top 10.


Only people making uneducated guesses. There was no reason to expect a game that finished 26th last game contest to somehow get a massive boost in 5 years, when its aged horribly.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 10:50:27 PM | message detail
Guyz I already said Mass Effect wins do you want it in caps or something
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/2/2009 11:03:13 PM | message detail
Well i suppose this is way too early to be looking at the next match, but given what weve seen so far is it safe to say TP>FF12?
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