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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 699

LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 12:57:49 PM | message detail
I don't expect KHII to be stronger than the original. Sure, it did wonders from Sora, but the general consensus that I've seen is that the original is better.
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 12:59:09 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't say any Kingdom Hearts game gets universal love, even from big fans of the series. For every person that prefers KH1, you've got an equal amount who think KH1 kinda sucked, which is probably why they won't be too far apart from each other.

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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:00:12 PM | message detail
the thing is, I don't expect too many people who disliked KH1 to have played KH2.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 1:01:11 PM | message detail
WoW gained 50 votes from 3:00-4:00

When is this epic Halo comeback supposed to start
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:01:16 PM | message detail
I see a lot more "KHII sucks" people than "KH1 sucks" people, though. Plus, it seems to me that those most likely to vote for any KH game are the core fans - those made fans by the first game an more likely to like it for than the second.

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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:01:29 PM | message detail
really?I liked KHII more,perhaps cause it was a more shonen type appeal,but the triangle button hate seems random like people suddenly calling R2 code trainwreck.
i'm sure the younger audiences liked 2 better cos it was more accessible,never doubt the kiddies,you always fear em when they wake up.

and Ulit better hurry and create topic 700,this 699 ain't lasting long.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/2/2009 1:01:54 PM | message detail
Time for you guys to stop listening to Ulti!
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:02:09 PM | message detail
I dunno about that. You've got plenty of people here who have, and I know I did. You can usually make up for that with people who picked up KH2, but didn't play KH1 -- there's a number of those out there, too.

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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:03:52 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #407
I dunno about that. You've got plenty of people here who have, and I know I did. You can usually make up for that with people who picked up KH2, but didn't play KH1 -- there's a number of those out there, too.


true say,whenever a pal wants to try out a KH game they always ask for II first,it's the casual mentality that the most recent game is necessarily better.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:04:40 PM | message detail
Well, either way it doesn't beat RE4. That game should just be on a different level of strength.

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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:04:52 PM | message detail
I don't see any more hate towards one over the other, honestly, not enough for it to make any real difference. It's not like people hate KH2 or anything.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/home/915410.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/home/516587.html

Pretty much identical here, too.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 1:05:24 PM | message detail
I'd be SHOCKED if KH2 finished closer to RE4 then GoW.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:05:37 PM | message detail
I personally prefer KHII myself, but I can see why people like KHI better. I don't think they'll be too far apart when it's all said and done though.

And I'm starting to think that all the Halos, all the GTAs, and games like Half-Life, WoW, Oblivion, etc. are all going to be in the same general range. I think they're all going to be pretty interchangeable to the point where any matchup involving them is going to be a toss-up.

Although GTA and Halo bombing seems to be the only given at this point. This sorta makes Galaxy's GOTY performance not look QUITE so good because it owned CoD4 which owned Halo 3, which is probably going to stink up the joint. I only bring that up because I did my write-up for the Galaxy match earlier so that's on my mind.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:06:11 PM | message detail
I wouldn't. I'm half-expecting Gears of War to lose to Shadow of the Colossus with what we've seen so far.

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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:06:14 PM | message detail
I don't think people hate KH2, I just think it has a 'more of the same' mentality whereas KH1 was the first of its kind.

I mean, I haven't played it but that's the general response I've felt from it.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:06:39 PM | message detail
you'd have thought KHII would have scored lower,more votes also means more anti-votes,i'm surprised it's so close to 9.
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:06:49 PM | message detail
I've got my doubts on RE4, but I don't expect KH2 to win that one. I do think it'll be much closer than RE4 than it will Gears, though.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:07:20 PM | message detail
KHII does a lot of things differently from KHI, but I think there are a lot of people who think those changes were for the worse, and some of them were.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/2/2009 1:07:21 PM | message detail
I'm expecting a typical 40/30/20/10 match tomorrow. Hopefully I'm wrong and its more exciting then that.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:07:46 PM | message detail

From: transience | #413
I don't think people hate KH2, I just think it has a 'more of the same' mentality whereas KH1 was the first of its kind.

I mean, I haven't played it but that's the general response I've felt from it.


well,well,well you know wht's going to be next on your playthrough topic then hey?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:08:12 PM | message detail
Actually, all the complaints about KHII I've seen come from changes. Too much triangle mashing, not enough Disney focus, not enough pseudo-platforming, ect.

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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:09:41 PM | message detail
KH1 and KH2 aren't really the same thing, not any more than you would expect a sequel to be. It fixed a lot of the issues that brought KH1 down (bad platforming, lol Gummi Ship, and less dumb trigger pointing), but then some people think these changes made the game easier.

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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:09:42 PM | message detail
I expect Gears to do poorly. it's got one of its worst opponents, a third person shooter that just trumps it in every way.

plus, Halo bombing can't be a good thing.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/2/2009 1:10:21 PM | message detail
Considering the games that have been stinking up the joint lately, if KH2 is closer to Gears of War I would crap my pants
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 1:10:25 PM | message detail
I think the two are both about equally liked by the core fanbase, but I'm expecting the original to be a notch ahead. Progenitor vs. more of the same, as tranny said.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:11:11 PM | message detail
it's not as if triangle could one hit K.O bosses,it was good to blast through fodder opponents when you were in a rush or in a tournament,but sometimes during bosses I quasi-Ignored,it did a fair bit of damage but it's nothing worse than spamming KoTR in FFVII.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/2/2009 1:11:44 PM | message detail
Cool, you guys saved 700 for me. You're the best, brb :D
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 1:11:50 PM | message detail
Yep, Gears has nothing going for it. Halo is dying, and Marcus Fenix followed ol' Chief and stunk up the joint last year.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:13:26 PM | message detail
but Gears is steadily replacing Halo as the new in thing,well in europe anyway,most 360 owners i know of seem to love chainsaws more than generic spartan.
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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:13:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2630

it's really unlikely but maybe Gears of War can compete.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/2/2009 1:14:03 PM | message detail
I disliked KH1 but loved KH2, and I know I'm not alone.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:14:25 PM | message detail
Asking Gears to be anywhere near as strong as it was during the GotY polls isn't a good idea. FPS games always fall off fast.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:14:30 PM | message detail
I expect Gears to do poorly. it's got one of its worst opponents, a third person shooter that just trumps it in every way.

plus, Halo bombing can't be a good thing.


Well, FPS games in general aren't doing well. I don't know why this is really surprising anyone though because that genre has never been GameFAQs' cup of tea. I guess we were expecting them to do better since the site was shifting more toward XBox and away from Nintendo, but maybe not.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:14:48 PM | message detail
but in that poll okami is utter garbage and do you really expect FFXII to be so strong?
oh god HL2 is doomed isn't it.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/2/2009 1:15:29 PM | message detail
I always thought people liked KH1 more than 2 for some reason.

I blame Org XIII
ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:15:52 PM | message detail
GotY poll'd

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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:16:01 PM | message detail
Gears isn't an FPS, though it might as well be.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:16:22 PM | message detail
If Half-Life 2 performs like the rest of its genre, then yeah, it's doomed.

But Gordon had to get his newfound strength from SOMEWHERE, and you'd think it'd make his game decently strong.

Plus, Gordon did beat Balthier, for whatever that's worth.
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:16:35 PM | message detail
yeah,pretty white boys a gay guy like me would love to baaa.....I wonder if they gay vote can be a factor one day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:17:06 PM | message detail
I always thought people liked KH1 more than 2 for some reason.

I blame Org XIII


Organization XIII fights are one of the big things that make KHII better than the original!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/2/2009 1:17:53 PM | message detail
From: transience | #434
Gears isn't an FPS, though it might as well be.

what
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/2/2009 1:17:58 PM | message detail
The two biggest complaints I hear about KHII are the Quicktime triangle button and the decreased importance of the Disney characters. I personally think the game takes more steps forward than it does back.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/2/2009 1:18:00 PM | message detail
Oh the fights were ok-good

Its just Org XIII were so damn lame.
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/2/2009 1:18:18 PM | message detail
themselves I mean
ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:18:27 PM | message detail
I'm looking forward to FFXII, if only so we can get past Balthier.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/2/2009 1:18:27 PM | message detail
I'm holding onto my claim that HL2 would 60-40 HL, and that FFXII is horribly disliked among the fanbase!

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voltch | Posted 5/2/2009 1:18:52 PM | message detail
oh that's what was bugging me,Tales,crap character good strength,pokemon,weaklings but top 15 game so far,FFIV/VI weak cast deadly powah!
so 12,here we go **** strenngth for the chars but competant levels of strength,yeah HL2 your DOOOMED!
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transience | Posted 5/2/2009 1:19:05 PM | message detail
I'm looking forward to FF12, if only so we can get it out of here!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/2/2009 1:19:07 PM | message detail
I love Reaction Commands. Sure, they're easy, but man, at least Square does a good job of making them look awesome.
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ZFS | Posted 5/2/2009 1:19:30 PM | message detail
pfft ffxii one of the best games in this contest suck it phoenix wrong

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