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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 698

charmander6000 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:13:51 PM | message detail
Which is why despite GTA3, VC and SA failing, I still think GTA4 will have enough to advance to round 2.

Considering its opponents are Street Fighter IV and Persona 4 it would be sad to see it lose in round 1.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:14:26 PM | message detail
Oh wait, I'm getting my matches confused.

Although SF4/GTA4 has potential to be interesting. SF2 bombed enough that I'm no longer confident in SF4.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 8:14:49 PM | message detail
GTA losing to a cult RPG? That's just ridicu...




Persona 4 for second let's do this

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ff6man | Posted 5/1/2009 8:15:33 PM | message detail
Wow, I'm honestly happy to be getting 2 points in this match.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:16:27 PM | message detail
I'm getting 0 but I don't care as long as this craptastic match is over.

This has to be the worst "close" match we've ever had.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:16:57 PM | message detail
Let the records show that many of us are still befuddled at GTA:SA's pathetic showing.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 8:17:33 PM | message detail
Awwww, is someone angry that they won't be able to say 'Fails' anymore?

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PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/1/2009 8:18:22 PM | message detail
But he's still going to do that. >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 8:19:02 PM | message detail
But now he'll look silly!

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:19:34 PM | message detail
He'll be calling it Fails of Symphonia once it loses next round.
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PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/1/2009 8:19:37 PM | message detail
How is that different fron before? <_<
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transience | Posted 5/1/2009 8:19:42 PM | message detail
he always looks silly, no need to point it out!

45 minutes to the most annoying match since the last Warcraft match
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/1/2009 8:19:48 PM | message detail
Division 7: Round 1 - Match 26 – Halo 2 vs. Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. Okami vs. World of Warcraft

Moltar’s Analysis

Halo 2
2004 Results: N/A

eww

MGS3
2004 Results: N/A

yay

Okami
2004 Results: N/A

yay

WoW
2004 Results: N/A

augh

This match, this match, this match. So glad we’re almost here, as I’m just about sick of hearing about this match. I swear, Blizzard fanboys can get me to root against it in every match, even in those where I have the Blizzard entrant advancing. Blah blah blah upsets blah blah blah rallies just shut up augh.

Anyway, now that we’re moving into more modern games, the games are starting to look weaker and weaker overall. MGS3 should be the strongest game here because it’s a part of the MGS franchise, which everyone knows is worth something on GameFAQs. I believe MGS3 is stronger than 2, which disappointed, so I think it’ll take first here easy.

Taking last, most likely is Okami. I think it’s being underrated here, as Ammy has impressed over the last two years. After the past week, I definitely wouldn’t count it out to beat out an overrated Halo 2 and/or WoW.

Speaking of overrated, I believe two things are being overrated here; Halo 2 hate and WoW in general. I don’t see Halo 2 being much weaker than the original Halo. A lot of casuals loved the multiplayer on Live, and also it has the benefit of being the only Xbox game this time. The jury is still out on Halo 1’s performance (how badly did KotOR split with it?), but I think Halo 2 is going to be fine here.

I’ve never bought WoW having decent strength. Any non-contest poll will show you that. Hell, the most impressive thing WoW has done is beat a Pikachu-hindered Ike. Without rallying, I’d honestly put it in contention with Okami for last. However, it’s going to get rallied. Still, rallying will only do so much. Starcraft and Diablo 2, two games that I would take over WoW, only got 27% in their matches. Plus, Diablo and Halo ended up pretty close even with KotOR potentially splitting with it.

If WoW advances here, whatever. Save us MGS3 and Halo 2!

Moltar’s Bracket Says: MGS 3 > Halo 2

Moltar’s Prediction is: MGS3: 33% - Halo 2: 24% - WoW: 23% - Okami: 20%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Time for the dreaded World of Warcraft match.

If there's one game in the contest that's been discussed to death, it's WoW. Everyone has an opinion on it and what it's going to do. I've said my piece on it many times before, but I'm not even sure what to expect, just because it relies on the site going against what they've said in previous polls and outside factors like rallying.

It couldn't have asked for a better draw with this competition, though. The one thing I'm fairly certain on in this match is that MGS3 is going to wreck faces -- the other three games are far too weak to be able to bother it, even if it does happen to fall under MGS2.

So the match comes down to Warcraft and Halo, two games you never want to put any kind of trust in to do what you want. Halo barely managed to scrap by KOTOR and got beat by Diablo II by a decent margin. That doesn't inspire much confidence when what is likely the strongest game in the series manages to barely scrap by weak competition.

What really makes this match for me is MGS3 -- it should by all means dominate the vote, clearly 40% without much trouble. That's not going to leave a lot of the vote to go around for everyone else, meaning that WoW doesn't need to put up 30% or whatever to advance. The less vote it needs to win, the better, because rallying can have a bigger effect and whatever hardcore WoW audience is on GameFAQs can push it even more.
Master Moltar | Posted 5/1/2009 8:20:07 PM | message detail
But who knows what's going to happen here, I sure don't. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Okami managed to beat both Halo and Warcraft, that's just the kinda contest that's going on right now. You stick a bunch of games GameFAQs has no real attachment to and this is what happens.

Metal Gear Solid 3 -- 41%
World of Warcraft -- 23%
Halo 2 -- 22%
Okami -- 14%

Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 3 > World of Warcraft
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Okami



Lopen’s Analysis

WORLD OF WARCRAFT.

I'm tired of talking about it at this point, but I'll give it a shot. I really don't need to glorify why I think the game is going to fail. It's not a matter of the game doing poorly in polls, it's a matter of no one on GameFAQs owning the game. All I want to know is... where are the votes going to come from when only 35% of the site has even played a game, and much less (to the tune of 7% or so) seem enthusiastic about it. The game's ceiling is practically what it needs to advance.

That's really all that I see here. People expect votes to materialize out of nowhere... I mean it's not even an attractive brand name, here. World of Warcraft is one of the most mocked games in video gaming.. associated with great accolades such as turning people into lifeless geeks, upping the percentage of overweight Americans, and countless other things to look down upon, do you really think people who haven't played the game will vote for it? Maybe Duck Hunt fans will flock to it because 90% of the enemies are ducks or dogs? Well guess what Okami DOG SFF suck it WoW.

Arthas is strong? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that hardly has anything to do with WoW. Is it any coincidence that characters who are less/not at all important to Warcraft 3 like Thrall and Hogger, that they've never looked even remotely strong.

Taking all that, a realistic expectation, before rallying, is WoW to get in the realm of 10-15% in this match. Okami isn't terribly strong... so unless you expect Halo 2 to destroy MGS3 or vice versa (not happening) then the game will need to rally upwards of 10000 votes to even get in striking distance. Maybe if the rallying is really fierce, the game will beat Okami here.

Now that we've thrown that pick out... Halo 2 vs MGS3. I was under the assumption that MGS3 would be the weakest MGS in the bracket, and that the Halo games would be pretty strong in this format. Halo didn't do too well, but as I said in the write-up for that match, KotoR was a huge vote siphon. It's not like MGS2 did too hot either. Time to gear up and take a swig of believe here, because Halo 2 is gonna rock the poll. GAME FUEL. INVINCIBLE. ETC.

Lopen's Prediction:
Halo 2 – 36.34%
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 32.61%
Okami – 16.02%
LoL – 15.03%



Transience’s Analysis

Well, here it is. World of Warcraft has been so over-discussed that most of us are absolutely sick of hearing about it. It's got an enormous range that goes from an easy r1 loss to a spot in the finals. I don't even want to write this match up because of it, but I'll do it anyway.

Let's start with the only real contest-related poll involving World of Warcraft:

Grand Theft Auto 49.56% 63051
Warcraft 50.44% 64167
TOTAL VOTES 127218

We've seen every GTA game now so we can properly judge this poll. None of them were particularly impressive - GTA3 lost to KOTOR, GTA:SA lost to Tales of Symphonia and Vice City squeaked out a win vs. Metroid Prime that may or may not have been hurt by Paper Mario. (I lean towards no.) Beating GTA is not a particularly impressive performance like we believed once upon a time, and that match against Mario Bros. makes a lot more sense now: Warcraft is a mid-tier entry at best.
Master Moltar | Posted 5/1/2009 8:20:49 PM | message detail
Fortunately for World of Warcraft, Halo isn't looking too hot either. Halo 1 went against GTA3 the other day and won by 4500 votes - a couple percent better than what the entire GTA series was able to against Warcraft. Extrapolating off this, it's probably safe to say that Halo 1 and 2006 Warcraft were about equal, maybe a slight edge to Halo.

So it comes down to this -- can Halo 2 compete with Halo 1?

I've heard people say Halo 2 is the black sheep on the series, but I never got that impression. I do think it's weaker than Halo 1, but I don't think it'd be by a very notable margin. Halo 2 was *the* console online deathmatch game from what I understand, and I think that makes it a favourite for a lot of people.

Regardless, I don't think it can stand up to Warcraft in a fourway setting. This format is just tailor-made for Warcraft to do well in. I hope it's close though because I want to see Halo's day vote go against all the MMO freaks.

Of course, Metal Gear Solid 3 should do well in this poll. It's the only game with a real fanbase behind it on GameFAQs. Okami's got a fanbase but it's pretty niche. Despite their casual popularity, Halo and Warcraft are not particularly loved titles on this site. That leaves MGS3, a game that *should* look good. MGS1 and 2 have only done average though so I wouldn't be too surprised if MGS3 dropped the ball and ended up close to these other mid-tier games.

Anyway, let's get this match over so we can stop talking about it.

transience's prediction:

Halo 2 - 23%
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 35%
Okami - 18%
World of Warcraft - 24%



Leon’s Analysis

Halo 2: This match contains a rematch of 2004 GOTY contenders, but this time, we’re going to have a different result! Halo 2 easily beat Snake Eater the first time around, but that was when Metal Gear Solid as a series was at an all-time low. It’s already proven that it’s better than what it was back then. Halo 2 should not be stronger than the original by any means. As an aside, do you guys remember when some people were pushing for Halo 2 to make the Top Ten List in 2005 as a write-in and it ended up in the 80s? Whew, I’d feel silly if I had been one of those people! I only mention that because there’s not really much to analyze about this match. We don’t have much data about any of the contenders because we’re now in a division of games that didn’t exist the first time we had this contest! In any event, I think Halo 2 takes second here, though I can’t deny the possibility it gets first because, as Ric Flair used to say, “In order to BE the man, you gotta BEAT the man!”

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater: This game is one of my all-time favorites, so this analysis MAY be a tad biased, but hey, it’s worked out for me in the past! I think Snake Eater takes first place fairly easily here. As I already said, MGS as a whole has taken a big leap since 2004, and MGS3 should be a beneficiary of that. I also fully expect it to be stronger than MGS2. Heck, it beat it by 20 spots on THE LIST, if I recall correctly (Whoo, two list references in one write-up! I’m turning into HaRRicH here!), so it definitely seems to have a more hardcore group of fans. Sure, it doesn’t have the sales of MGS2, but it doesn’t need them. It’s not like it didn’t sell well, just not as well as MGS1 or MGS2 (but not many games do!). Anyway, Snake Eater should be feeding on a tree frog all day long on its way to victory here!

Okami: Amaterasu is surprisingly popular around these parts, and there’s gotta be a reason for that, right? Okami can’t be TOO weak, I don’t think, although Ammy’s design is probably part of her appeal. It may be one of those things where the character is stronger than the game. Okami’s got no shot of advancing here, though I won’t be surprised if it outdoes World of Warcraft here!
Master Moltar | Posted 5/1/2009 8:21:12 PM | message detail
World of Warcraft: This game got a lot of hype pre-contest based on absolutely nothing. Rallying power only matters if you’re not down thousands and tens of thousands of votes. You can ask StarCraft about that one. If you’re just not strong enough, rallying is ineffective, and I believe that’s the boat WoW finds itself in. I have no reason to believe it’s that strong around here, and don’t even start with the old “The format helps it!” argument because it’s already fallen flat on its face when StarCraft got owned. I’m confident World of Warcraft does nothing here. I’ll even go so far as to say that it’s got a better shot at getting last place than advancing, but then again, I was very confident that Grand Theft Auto would beat Warcraft in the Series Contest, so what do I know?

Leonhart’s Vote: SNAAAAAAAAAAAKE EAAAAATERRRRRRR!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Halo 2 – 28.11%
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 34.11%
Okami – 18.67%
World of Warcraft – 19.11%



Ed Bellis’s Analysis

After today’s shakeup, this should – hopefully – be an easy match to call, based on past performances. We’ve already seen that Diablo II > Halo, and since Halo 2 is likely weaker than Halo 1 and World of Warcraft is probably stronger than D2, it stands to reason that WoW > Halo 2. (This line of logic falls apart when you consider that we know next to nothing about either game, but hey!)

Metal Gear Solid 3 is another unknown entity. I’m willing to bet it’s pretty strong, though – unlike MGS2, 3 has virtually no detractors and a solid fanbase all its own. It likely takes first here.

The real question is: how much does World of Warcraft need to be a threat in the later rounds? I’m still stubbornly banking on it, so I’ll say it needs to come within three percent of SNAAAAAKE EAAAAATAH to stand a chance in later rounds. (This is all neglecting to take the WHOAMG TUESDAY EFFECT into consideration.)

I fully expect tomorrow to be filled with mass flaming, trolling, and Albion tearing his quad.

Prediction: shades of HOGGER
Halo 2 with 21.17%
Metal Gear Solid 3 with 35.81%
Okami with 12.25%
World of Warcraft with 30.77%



Guest’s Analysis - KleenexTissue50

Oh hey, back again. Didn't I just do one of these? Oh well. This match is going to be one holy hell of a mess. This might be "the most anticipated match of the contest". Half of the pre-contest banter was about how WoW would do. Granted, half that ranting was by one person, but regardless. Anyone who says they aren't interested to see what happens here is lying.

So what does happen? Well, Halo nearly flopped a few days ago, and even then it only managed second place. Again what? A Blizzard game. Hmmm. StarCraft disappointed, Diablo II did well. Hmmm. Metal Gear Solid 2 didn't do as well against FFX as expected. Hmmm. I'm not going to count anything out here. Okami could very well advance today. We just saw a game no one but the crazies though would move on nearly (or actually, writing this in the very bowels of the ASV!) make it to the second round.
Master Moltar | Posted 5/1/2009 8:21:53 PM | message detail
This year, I've taken Halo to flop in every way possible. I have Halo 2 out here in my bracket and I have Halo 3 losing to Left 4 Dead of all things. So we're going to stick with that. Halo 2 doesn't advance. Hell, Halo 2 might come in last here. This fight is probably between MGS3 and WoW. Now, I personally think that MGS3 is the weakest of the four. How much weaker, I don't know. Weak enough to lose to WoW? Well...probably not. If WoW takes first here, I think we're all going to be in big trouble.

The only thing I can say for certain is that the stats topic is going to be absolutely unbearable tomorrow. I think you know why.

Kleenex's Prediction
Halo 2 - 24.65%
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 35.44%
Okami - 13.81%
World of Warcraft - 26.10%



Crew Consensus: MGS3 > WoW is the majority, but MGS3 > Halo 2 and Halo 2 > MGS3 are also represented.
HaRRicH | Posted 5/1/2009 8:22:31 PM | message detail
Congratulations ToS, you made a believer out of me. Unless WoW impresses tomorrow, it's got a fair enough shot at advancing next round, too. Who knew......


As for the big match we've been waiting to see soon, WoW's going to need to prove itself quick. That said, guys, please don't assume the match is over in the first update -- it's bound to have the worst board-vote (yes, worse than Halo 2's; people like even their dead brackets more than WoW around here). I know a lot of us would like to see it eliminated to end the matter ASAP, but patience is going to be pretty key to see how it does. People don't often rally in those first five minutes.
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transience | Posted 5/1/2009 8:23:49 PM | message detail
actually, I think World of Warcraft will have a good board vote. I expect a lot of brackets to support it.
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 5/1/2009 8:25:23 PM | message detail
I tore up my bracket today, so now I'm just in it for the ride. *hopes for massive controversy for the next match*
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 8:26:29 PM | message detail
WoW has brackets, but it's also pretty not liked around here. It won't have a terrible board vote, but it'll be lagging at the start.

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ZFS | Posted 5/1/2009 8:27:27 PM | message detail
Let's go MGS3 time to beat up on these chumps

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:30:41 PM | message detail
Remember, Arthas in round 1 last year started at 21% after board vote, and got up to nearly 28% over night and finished just below 27% after the ASV.

It'll have a lot of room to improve from the board vote.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/1/2009 8:32:50 PM | message detail
WoW's more of a board favorite this time, I believe...dunno how fair that comparison is.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:34:23 PM | message detail
Either way i think this is gonna be a far less hectic match.

This one was just plain mind-boggling...
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/1/2009 8:34:30 PM | message detail
Err, bracket-favorite...whatever.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:37:29 PM | message detail
Round 1 - Division 7: Match 2

Halo 2


Easily the best Halo, not sure where all the naysayers come from

Metal Gear Solid 3

LET'S CRAM AS MUCH USELESS CRAP INTO THE GAME AS WE CAN TO RUIN A PERFECTLY GOOD FORMULA!

Okami

lol turbofodder

World of Warcraft

A game that is being criminally underestimated

Analysis:

Not much to say here that hasn't been said over and over again, but since people here refuse to listen I might as well try once again.

World of Warcraft is the big story here. This game has simply massive potential to make a big run as far as the finals if it can get going in the first 2 rounds, yet there are still doubters.

Let's recap, we have a game that has something like 11 million subscribers. Yes, people who liked the game enough that decided to pay MORE money to play it. 11 million subscribers is HUGE. Even without the rally potential, the game should have enough strength to easily dispatch the competition.

First we have Okami, which is lol.

Next is Halo 2, which I was worried might take first, but given Halo 1's bomb-job, it doesn't look likely. Still a good choice for second though because:

MGS3, easily the WORST of the MGS franchise. I loved MGS and MGS2, then MGS3 came along and shat all over the formula, resulting in an abortion of a game that was simply painful to play. Essentially the Final Fantasy 9 or Wind Waker of the MGS series, and we saw how badly those 2 bombed. Not even a threat here, despite the GEARFEAR that has run rampant through the topic the last few months.

So back to WoW, detracters bring up a playership poll which has the playership at about 35%. They are making a big deal of this, but I ask, where is the MGS3 playership poll? I can guarentee that it would be under 30%. And since when does playership matter anyways? GTA:SA probably has an over 50% play rate and it is getting destroyed by an obscure piece of crap Gamecube RPG with turbofodder characters. When the only argument against a game advancing is a useless poll, that's when I write your opinions on contests off. See: that whole moronic mess about Earthbound in the VC poll.

In conclusion, lol mgs3

TuRtLe's Prediction: WoW 33%, Halo 2 30%, MGS3 24%, Okami 13%
TuRtLe's Bracket: WoW > Halo 2
TuRtLe's Vote: A pretty lame match, so I guess Halo 2.
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transience | Posted 5/1/2009 8:38:59 PM | message detail
Arthas was against a Smash Bros. guy. two, actually, and one of them was Pokemon. can't beat those early votes.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/1/2009 8:39:36 PM | message detail
I'll be happy as long as The Ultimate Cold War Adventure (TM) wins. The other three entrants are cool too, Okami is my favorite for second but I really don't care.

And since when is Snake Eater considered to be the black sheep of the series? Most say it is at least among the best. On IGN's Top 100 Readers' Choice List MGS3 placed 5th and MGS1 placed 8th (then again, Kingdom Hearts placed 85th, Vice City at 39th, and Metroid Prime at 25th), and MGS3 upset MGS4 in the first round of Video Game Madness VII before almost upsetting Super Metroid in round 2. HOW IS MGS3 THE BLACK SHEEP OF ITS SERIES???
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:40:00 PM | message detail
And think, Arthas did that BEFORE he became a part of WoW.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:41:31 PM | message detail
How was MGS3 good in any way? It had the lamest bosses, the most contrived plot, and the whole stupid PAUSE EVERY 3 SECONDS TO EAT DEAD ANIMALS RAW OR USE A BAND-AID TO FIX YOUR BULLET RIDDLED BODY! thing.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:41:55 PM | message detail
I just gotta say about Arthas. People basing WoW on how Arthas did are in for a rude awakening. Arthas was essentially the same as how Ike was "A guy from a website" in 2007. He wasn't even in the game, and was only known about by the more hardcore WoW fans by that point, not the more casuals. WoW will do better then Arthas.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:42:26 PM | message detail
that old man sniper boss was awesome
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Mumei | Posted 5/1/2009 8:43:49 PM | message detail
I just gotta say about Arthas. People basing WoW on how Arthas did are in for a rude awakening. Arthas was essentially the same as how Ike was "A guy from a website" in 2007. He wasn't even in the game, and was only known about by the more hardcore WoW fans by that point, not the more casuals. WoW will do better then Arthas.

... He was the star of Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne, you know. He wasn't in the same position as Ike at all. <_<

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:44:16 PM | message detail

From: Mumei | #434
I just gotta say about Arthas. People basing WoW on how Arthas did are in for a rude awakening. Arthas was essentially the same as how Ike was "A guy from a website" in 2007. He wasn't even in the game, and was only known about by the more hardcore WoW fans by that point, not the more casuals. WoW will do better then Arthas.

... He was the star of Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne, you know. He wasn't in the same position as Ike at all. <_<


Ike was the star of 2 Fire Emblem games beforehand as well...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:45:10 PM | message detail
MyWorldIsCrono
Posted 5/1/2009 11:42:26 PM
message detail that old man sniper boss was awesome


The idea was good, but the fight just dragged on and just got frustrating after a while.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:45:49 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #436
MyWorldIsCrono
Posted 5/1/2009 11:42:26 PM
message detail that old man sniper boss was awesome


The idea was good, but the fight just dragged on and just got frustrating after a while.


I beat him cuz I got frustrated by it and stopped playing for a couple weeks, then I loaded it back up and he died of old age.
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PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/1/2009 8:46:35 PM | message detail
Ike was the star of 2 Fire Emblem games beforehand as well...

1 Fire Emblem game at that time. I think it sold less than the previous 2 before it as well.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:47:40 PM | message detail
Ah yes "The End" as he was called.

Truly one boss fight that i vividly remember, it was special in many ways.

1. He doesn't try to kill you, he tries to knock you unconscious with the tranquilizer bullets in his Mosin Nagant, so you cannot get a Game Over from him.

2. He's a sniper. Compared to other bosses, it isn't fast paced, but more of a cat and mouse game, meaning you gotta find him in order to harm him.

3. If your saved game at that point went past a week "The End" dies of old age and you skip the fight entirely. But why would you want to skip this epic boss battle?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:48:13 PM | message detail
And something about the whole "Playership" thing. Just check "Owned" in My Games for these 4 games. WoW dwarfs the other games.
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PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/1/2009 8:51:05 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/my/534914.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/my/914983.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/my/561316.html
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:51:15 PM | message detail
It seems every year this topic puts on their blinders and ignores an obvious result because they don't like the game or something.

Which is stupid. I hate WoW and think it's absolutely stupid to play a game that has no end. Not to mention my friends that have gotten into it are essentially hermits and never want to go barhopping any more.

Doesn't change the fact that the turbonerds that eat up time sink loser games like WoW are going to support it en masse.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:52:38 PM | message detail
PreseaCombatir
Posted 5/1/2009 11:51:05 PM
message detail http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/my/534914.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/my/914983.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/my/561316.html


I've already brought this up.

The ONE AND ONLY argument against WoW advancing here is that 35% playership poll that you people keep throwing around. IT IS MEANINGLESS.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:52:43 PM | message detail

From: PreseaCombatir | #441
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/my/561316.html


When did I say its ownership was higher then GTA? And I'm not saying playership is a reason it'll win, but using playership as a reason it won't win is silly.
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transience | Posted 5/1/2009 8:52:54 PM | message detail
It seems every year this topic puts on their blinders and ignores an obvious result because they don't like the game or something.

MGS3, easily the WORST of the MGS franchise. I loved MGS and MGS2, then MGS3 came along and shat all over the formula, resulting in an abortion of a game that was simply painful to play.


holy pot kettle
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 8:53:28 PM | message detail
To be fair, you have all been constantly burned by Blizzard games and yet still haven't learned your lesson.
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redrocket | Posted 5/1/2009 8:53:37 PM | message detail
MGS3, easily the WORST of the MGS franchise. I loved MGS and MGS2, then MGS3 came along and shat all over the formula, resulting in an abortion of a game that was simply painful to play. Essentially the Final Fantasy 9 or Wind Waker of the MGS series, and we saw how badly those 2 bombed.

It seems every year this topic puts on their blinders and ignores an obvious result because they don't like the game or something.


well then

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/1/2009 8:54:30 PM | message detail
BT cracks me up sometimes, but it's always when he doesn't mean to.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:54:43 PM | message detail
WoW > Halo 2 in terms of board vote, though MGS3 and Okami should be rocking it.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/1/2009 8:54:43 PM | message detail
I like how people don't even have to argue with Turtle anymore, he just destroys himself
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