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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 698

KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:22:05 PM | message detail
We've already seen what ensemble casts do. FFVI just so happens to have 12 party members and a very memorable villain.

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ZFS | Posted 5/1/2009 6:22:08 PM | message detail
Kefka being the most popular FFVI character makes sense. He's definitely the star of the show.

The strongest FFVI character being pretty much fodder on the other hand...

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Yesmar | Posted 5/1/2009 6:22:12 PM | message detail
My only explanation for Kefka/Mithos has been that in May of 2005 ToS with still within its initial popularity boom, but in the two months until Lloyd's match, the initial boost faded off.

Better than the Anime Girl Factor which is the only other explanation I've seen given. Although sometimes flukes just *happen* for whatever reason.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:23:22 PM | message detail
I don't think it's that much of a stretch. A lot of votes come from design and casual appeal. Kefka is a clown.

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/1/2009 6:23:40 PM | message detail
bah, it's over
at least it was interesting for a little while
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/1/2009 6:28:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, Symphonia's trying to pull away now.

I won't call it over yet because it's only 125 votes, but still, not lookin' good for GoW.

MASS DEVASTATION
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:29:43 PM | message detail
126, actually!

SWORD RAIN!
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SWORD RAIN!
SWORD RAIN!
*UNISON ATTACK*
SWORD RAIN!


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SonicRaptor | Posted 5/1/2009 6:33:48 PM | message detail
I'm still shaking my head at ToS, no way in hell could I have imagined it pulling off what it has.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/1/2009 6:34:26 PM | message detail
Looking forward to the bracket %
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/1/2009 6:40:31 PM | message detail
Am I seeing this right?

ToS won the day over GoW?

Whoo ToS!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/1/2009 6:41:49 PM | message detail
So Metroid Prime got 47.44% on Vice City; San Andreas has 48.43% on Tales of Symphonia. If the two GTA titles are equal, Metroid Prime would get 45.95% on Tales of Symphonia.

Obviously there's a lot of support for VC > SA after today, but ouch, Metroid Prime, ouch.
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creativename | Posted 5/1/2009 6:42:43 PM | message detail
This talk about "Oh, well Kratos' day vote was never that great to begin with" is crap. Kratos' dayvote was absolutely one of the top day votes out there.

Question.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3470&type=1&seconds=60&max=0

Is there any way to view these with some graphs removed? I think we might need that option after KOTOR's match and this match.


What do you mean?

You can change the intervals if you want, change the 60 to 900.


Why Kefka seems to be the most popular FFVI character is something I'll never know either

This is fairly obvious I think.

Though, like I've been saying for ages, Shadow is probably stronger.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:43:41 PM | message detail
You can change the intervals if you want, change the 60 to 900.

Hey, hey, don't expect me to be smart or anything!

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transients | Posted 5/1/2009 6:45:05 PM | message detail
I think I'd rather talk about how strong World of Warcraft is than debate the FF6 character thing yet again. :)

Kratos has a great day vote, yeah. no reason to doubt this. Kefka has a hideous day vote but that doesn't stop FF6 from being at least mediocre come daytime... GOW and Kratos is the same way. we all knew Kratos was far stronger than God of War anyway.
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creativename | Posted 5/1/2009 6:45:08 PM | message detail
For instance here's an hourly graph

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3470&type=2&seconds=3600&max=0
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/1/2009 6:45:22 PM | message detail
Have we all seen the new pics? I haven't really been around in the last few hours, so sorry if it's old, but:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-26.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-27.jpg
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-28.jpg

There should be no complaints for tonight - everything looks great.
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creativename | Posted 5/1/2009 6:45:49 PM | message detail
Is that what you were looking for?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/1/2009 6:46:47 PM | message detail
Only four hours late. Not too shabby.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 6:48:20 PM | message detail
My only complaint about upcoming match pics is the Phoenix Wright one. The colors seemed drained out or something
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:48:27 PM | message detail
Yeah, thanks. Graph is still kind of hard to read, but now it doesn't look like someone barfed rainbows all over my screen.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/1/2009 6:49:22 PM | message detail
Is there anything you could do to eliminate the unused space starting from 0? I mean it'd be nice if the graph started at 15% for matches like today and with the max being 35% it'd be a lot more spread out and easier to read
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/1/2009 6:49:48 PM | message detail
I haven't even played the game, but FFXII's pic looks like something that'll remind FF fans just how much they hated XII. I'm starting to hate it just looking at the thing.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 6:50:42 PM | message detail
FFXII's pic is the box art. You can't really go wrong with that.

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transients | Posted 5/1/2009 6:51:19 PM | message detail
I get a kick out of GTA's numbers

GTA: Vice City - 24.48%
GTA3 - 22.11%
GTA: San Andreas - 23.43%

it's almost like it has a ceiling. and no, this isn't serious.
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KingBartz | Posted 5/1/2009 6:55:24 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-26.jpg

Everyone has good pics, very nice. Okami will still fail though.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-27.jpg

lol Sora pic

http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-28.jpg

aww man gordon...

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paulg235 | Posted 5/1/2009 6:58:12 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3470&type=1&seconds=60&max=0

OMG, that's like a huge cluster****.
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ZFS | Posted 5/1/2009 6:59:15 PM | message detail
I haven't even played the game, but FFXII's pic looks like something that'll remind FF fans just how much they hated XII. I'm starting to hate it just looking at the thing.

I wouldn't think so. FFXII's box art is great.

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paulg235 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:04:55 PM | message detail
TOTAL VOTES 111333

Epic.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:07:36 PM | message detail
Collector's Edition boxart beats that lame cast picture by a mile.
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ZFS | Posted 5/1/2009 7:08:49 PM | message detail
True that, but FFXII Collector Edition box art beats almost everything out there.

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Starion | Posted 5/1/2009 7:10:23 PM | message detail
At least the cast art kinda shows you who is more significant or more active in the story. The only one who is the wrong size is Basch.
Biolizard28 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:18:00 PM | message detail
Heh, guess the kids didn't know where to turn.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/1/2009 7:20:50 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-26.jpg

aww shoot, Saluting Naked Snake. There's your first place right there. All eyes on Halo 2 and WoW for second!

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 7:35:36 PM | message detail
WoW is gonna be making a killing on Halo in the Europe hours....

Halo: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3468&region=EUR

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WoW: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3271&region=EUR
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:51:41 PM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Most_Surprising_Results#Most_Surprising_Results_of_Round_One

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/1/2009 7:53:50 PM | message detail
Fun fact: the Gurus got his match wrong.

I mean 100% wrong. No one picked Oblivion>ToS.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 7:54:17 PM | message detail
Ah, we finally get through this abortion of a match and will soon be looking at probably the most important round 1 match. WoW has a huge range it can fall in, we should have a good idea where after today.

RPGs impressing all through the first round is definitely a good sign.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:55:36 PM | message detail
Actually, Diablo II belongs on that list. Whoops. Symphony missed by just a little bit, too.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/1/2009 7:56:31 PM | message detail
Uhm, now Oblivion > Tales of Symphonia is the current result. Here's hoping that God of War and GTA pass ToS before the match ends.

And now starts THE FINAL HOUR (and four minutes) OF THE MATCH!!!
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/1/2009 7:57:03 PM | message detail
Well i hope i dont jinx ToS by saying im sure that its got 2nd place secured now.

Now tonights match im sure MGS3 will have a strong showing as i liked that game in particular.

Halo 2 looks shaky considering what happened to the first Halo.

I'm sure Albion is gonna have a rally setup in case WoW is in danger of getting 3rd or 4th, which i honestly doubt seeing how popular the game is. Then again we never expected ToS to be so strong in the previous match.

Okami is a similar position that ToS is in, the only Nintendo game in this pack.

We should be able to get a good reading of each games strength as each game isn't in the same console or pc as the others.

My Prediction: MGS3 > WoW
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/1/2009 7:57:41 PM | message detail
RPGs impressing all through the first round is definitely a good sign.

Not only any RPGs... PC RPGs like Diablo, Oblivion and KOTOR.
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Starion | Posted 5/1/2009 8:00:15 PM | message detail
Okami is a similar position that ToS is in, the only Nintendo game in this pack.

Is this really going to be significant though? I mean, it can help a bit but most of Okami's appeal was when it was only on the PS2 well before it was released for the Wii.
PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/1/2009 8:00:18 PM | message detail
Not only any RPGs... PC RPGs like Diablo, Oblivion and KOTOR.

SMRPG, Pokemon RBYGS, ToS
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:07:36 PM | message detail
Match XXVI: Halo 2 vs. Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. Okami vs. World of Warcraft

Information:

Name: Halo 2
Year: 2004
System: Xbox
Top 100 Placing: 85th

Name: Metal Gear Solid 3
Year: 2004
System: PS2
Top 100 Placing: 21st

Name: Okami
Year: 2006
System: PS2
Top 100 Placing: N/A

Name: World of Warcraft
Year: 2004
System: PC
Top 100 Placing: 39th

Analysis

Welcome to the most talked about match of the round, though the talk is pretty much all about one game. What’s interesting about this match is that the three games that are a part of a series are often considered to be the oddball of the series. I also like to say here that 2004 was a great year in gaming and really held us out during the 2005 drought.

Okami while a great game doesn’t really have the popularity to stand up against these opponents. I said the same thing about Tales of Symphonia yesterday and Amaterasu has impressed in previous contests, but these opponents are stronger and while Okami won’t be run downed I don’t see it getting any place besides fourth.

Metal Gear Solid 3 is the favourite for first. While the Metal Gear Solid games haven’t been that impressive they have done much better than Halo and Blizzard games. Also as long as its performance is half decent it will probably be the favourite for first next round based on the performance of today’s games. You know besides the first division each division had its fair share of strong games yet this division may only have one or two. I guess the timeless classics are being to run out on GameFAQs.

Halo 2 was one of the most hyped games ever, though like Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Twilight Princess living to those expectations is impossible. Halo 2 is still a solid game and was the only game besides Tales of Symphonia to make it to the top 100 list without being on the drop down list, without board 8’s help. I’m not expecting much, but it won’t need that much to get second in this match.

I think everyone here knows my stance on World of Warcraft, if not you must have not come to the stats topic over the past few weeks. World of Warcraft of GameFAQs is like Earthbound, loud but tiny. I don’t care if the game has sold eleven million copies because sales mean nothing, if they do San Andreas would be destroying everything today. 35% player ship rate is tiny compare to some of the big names. As for the hardcore argument Halo fans are much more hardcore than World of Warcraft fans, not that I think hardcore votes are going to sway the results in any way. Also each game is so different that overlap will be minimal at best giving no game an advantage over the other. World of Warcraft has one advantage, rallying. We’ve seen rallying happen in the past and it does work, but for it to work World of Warcraft needs to have a base to work on which will be small based on player ship rate.

I still stand by that World of Warcraft will flop, though there is the possibility that Halo 2 will flop even more giving the MMORPG a chance in the second round. World of Warcraft rallying should be in full force in this match and I expect nothing less than full out effort. The match will start off with MGS3 in a giant lead while Halo 2 begins its traditional awful board vote. If World of Warcraft can’t lead by the end of the power hour the match is over as the morning and day vote of Halo 2 will crush it.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Halo 2

charmander6000’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 – 37.27%, Halo 2 – 26.18%, World of Warcraft – 22.87%, Okami – 13.68%

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BGE2 - Today's Match: GTA: SA > GoW Points: 71/96
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:08:14 PM | message detail
In hindsight, this isn't really surprising. GTA and GoW are both heavy "casual" favourites, makes sense that they hurt eachother. I'm still pretty confident in WoW > Halo 2. If MGS3 is worth a damn I'll be surprised. It's easily the black sheep of the series as it is so completely different (and not in a good way) from 1, 2 and 4.

Hideo Kojima: "Hey guys, I've got a great way to make this game more realistic! Let's introduce a mechanic where every time you take damage you have to go through a pause menu to use medical supplies! Never mind the fact that it completely ruins the pacing of the game! And on top of that, let's force players to hunt for food in the middle of a mission and make certain foods have negative effects! So realisitic to kill and eat an entire crocodile while you're fighting for the entire western world!"

God I hate that game...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:10:23 PM | message detail
People keep bringing up that playership poll, but:

a) I'll guarentee the playership for MGS3 is lower
b) I'll guarantee that of the four games today GTA: SA has the highest rate, and look where that got it.

it's a stretch to say WoW doesn't advance, it's utterly ridiculous to think it loses by THAT much
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:10:59 PM | message detail
In hindsight, this isn't really surprising. GTA and GoW are both heavy "casual" favourites, makes sense that they hurt eachother.

I'm fine with that, but it still doesn't explain why GoW > SA.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/1/2009 8:12:10 PM | message detail
I'm fine with that, but it still doesn't explain why GoW > SA.

It's because SA isn't as well liked as people on this board like to believe. It's the weakest of the GTA III games.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/1/2009 8:12:28 PM | message detail
I've been saying for a month now that GTA games are very frontloaded, in the fact that while it is the most recent entrant it will dominate, but as soon as a new game is released the fans will flock to the new one.

Which is why despite GTA3, VC and SA failing, I still think GTA4 will have enough to advance to round 2.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/1/2009 8:12:29 PM | message detail
it's a stretch to say WoW doesn't advance, it's utterly ridiculous to think it loses by THAT much

I think I'd be more surprised if WoW loses in a close match than Okami taking first.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: GTA: SA > GoW Points: 71/96