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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 696

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/30/2009 1:55:50 PM | message detail
Oh man... first Earthsuck, now Fails of Symphonia.... stop looking for obscure pieces of crap to do anything.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 1:56:09 PM | message detail
Well duh, its obvious that newer games people actually care about would hold up better! I'm sure even Shadow of the Colossus should hold up for at least 10%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 1:57:50 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #401
Oh man... first Earthsuck, now Fails of Symphonia.... stop looking for obscure pieces of crap to do anything.


Not saying they'll do anything, but before these contests started, people would have called Chrono Trigger an obscure old game that people wouldn't care about. Or did you forget quite a few people had Simon Belmont beating Crono in 2002?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/30/2009 2:01:13 PM | message detail
Uhh, Chrono Trigger was always hugely popular here. Have you seen the early polls where it dominates?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 2:03:03 PM | message detail

From: Mac Arrowny | #404
Uhh, Chrono Trigger was always hugely popular here. Have you seen the early polls where it dominates?


Maybe so, but lots of people were very very surprised at Cronos strength back in 2002. Even Crono supporters didn't seem to think he'd get past Dante.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 2:03:24 PM | message detail
Pre contest, I mean. Not after his whipping of Simon.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 2:06:45 PM | message detail
Nearly 57% update for Melee, up to 47.37%.

I wonder if it's got enough momentum to get over 49% here. I thought it'd finish in the 48-49% range, but at the rate it's going...
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draarrowgant | Posted 4/30/2009 2:17:34 PM | message detail
Nearly 57% update for Melee, up to 47.37%.

I wonder if it's got enough momentum to get over 49% here. I thought it'd finish in the 48-49% range, but at the rate it's going...


Well- if that happened at it was at Fire Emblems cost then we would be back almost EXACTLY to after the power hour... talk about this one being consistent from the get-go.


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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/30/2009 2:25:52 PM | message detail
Ya know, if Secret of Monkey Island couldn't even break 10% against SimCity and Tecmo Super Bowl...I wonder just how low it'll go when Sonic 1 and Street Fighter II come to play.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/30/2009 2:26:55 PM | message detail
The same %

THE MI FANS WILL NOT WAVER
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 2:32:40 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #410
The same %

THE MI FANS WILL NOT WAVER


This is what I'm guessing. I really doubt many of the super hardcore monkey island fans jump ship.
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creativename | Posted 4/30/2009 2:44:51 PM | message detail
I'd peg 7% for Monkey Island.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/30/2009 2:55:05 PM | message detail
Man, how the heck does Fire Emblem have a better ASV than Zelda. That doesn't make much sense.
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transients | Posted 4/30/2009 3:02:58 PM | message detail
SA > VC > 3 seems fairly obvious to me - though I don't think there's that much of a difference.
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transients | Posted 4/30/2009 3:03:19 PM | message detail
remember Ike's day vote? FE doing well at this time isn't that surprising.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:03:58 PM | message detail

From: transients | #415
remember Ike's day vote? FE doing well at this time isn't that surprising.


Remember fire emblem during the series contest? going even with mgs and silent hill?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/30/2009 3:05:55 PM | message detail
remember Ike's day vote? FE doing well at this time isn't that surprising.

Yes, but why? This is a niche RPG series. I can't think of any series like Fire Emblem that has a decent ASV.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/30/2009 3:06:52 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #416
Remember fire emblem during the series contest? going even with mgs and silent hill?


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2430&type=1&seconds=900&max=0

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2443&type=1&seconds=900&max=0

No I don't remember that.

Although it should have did better against Metal Gear, but with no ASV present I guess you take what you can get
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transients | Posted 4/30/2009 3:07:24 PM | message detail
it's a niche Nintendo RPG series. TOS has a good day vote too, as tomorrow will show.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/30/2009 3:08:07 PM | message detail
And yeah, Ike is probably much more Brawl than he is Fire Emblem. How this game isn't collapsing in this time block despite Melee in the poll is really beyond me. Just think about it!

Kids are coming home from school and voting for Fire Emblem over Zelda in greater percentage than the overnight weirdos did. The heck!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:11:44 PM | message detail

From: transients | #419
it's a niche Nintendo RPG series. TOS has a good day vote too, as tomorrow will show.


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ZFS | Posted 4/30/2009 3:11:55 PM | message detail
zelda deboost

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:14:50 PM | message detail
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oh look at that godly tos ASV

yeah, i dont expect much asv from ToS tomorrow
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/30/2009 3:19:44 PM | message detail
I think Kratos Aurion technically improved against Diddy Kong with the ASV. And Lloyd at least hanging in their with Jak and HK-47 isn't bad. It's probably not an impressive day vote but it's probably more day vote than night vote at least
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:21:08 PM | message detail
Its not a bad asv, but its not soemthing thats going to be better then zelda or anything like FE is today somehow.
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transients | Posted 4/30/2009 3:21:10 PM | message detail
Kratos improved on Diablo too, and of course Sheena crushed Jill in the day.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/30/2009 3:21:26 PM | message detail
And Lloyd at least hanging in their with Jak and HK-47 isn't bad.

You just reminded me of the Jakpack of Suck.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:22:18 PM | message detail

From: transients | #426
Kratos improved on Diablo too, and of course Sheena crushed Jill in the day.


Oh wow, they beat horrible asv characters. Run to the presses, we have a new ASV beast!
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/30/2009 3:22:27 PM | message detail
Sheena crushed Jill in the day.

Resident Evil's day vote is teh suck.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:25:17 PM | message detail
And for the Diddy Kong thing

Did we suddenly forget about Donkey Kongs horrible ASV? No reason to think Diddy Kong would be any better since they shared most of Donkey Kongs most popular games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/30/2009 3:25:45 PM | message detail
Did you suddenly forget about DKC's decent day vote?

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:26:57 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #431
Did you suddenly forget about DKC's decent day vote?


You mean the day vote against a game that 5 years ago went even with FF6 in the day?

Being about equal to Kefka isn't something to brag about.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/30/2009 3:30:25 PM | message detail
I didn't mean to start a big ol' thing guys I swear.
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transients | Posted 4/30/2009 3:34:11 PM | message detail
ain't no thing, beats talking about whatever Albion wants
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 3:35:31 PM | message detail

From: transients | #434
ain't no thing, beats talking about whatever Albion wants


At least I'm trying to prevent myself from starting convos about THAT stuff >_>
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BDawg | Posted 4/30/2009 3:52:24 PM | message detail
It would've been nice to see Fire Emblem in a not handicapped position. Well, nice as in hey this thing is not getting beat by Disgaea.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/30/2009 3:54:05 PM | message detail
Speaking of ToS, I was thinking... Is it true that most of the characters that ToS characters faced suck during the day?
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BDawg | Posted 4/30/2009 3:55:44 PM | message detail
I imagine Tales characters have faced pretty much the full spectrum at this point. Their crappy record certainly isn't from lack of chances.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 3:56:37 PM | message detail
And Lloyd at least hanging in their with Jak and HK-47 isn't bad. It's probably not an impressive day vote but it's probably more day vote than night vote at least

We already saw yesterday that KOTOR has a good ASV, and for whatever the reason, 3-D platforming characters have good ASVs. Ratchet outright beat Thrall with the ASV despite being down like 5000 votes going into it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 4:01:40 PM | message detail
Speaking of ToS, I was thinking... Is it true that most of the characters that ToS characters faced suck during the day?

Let's see...Mithos faced Kefka, whose day vote needs no introduction. Lloyd faced Wesker, and he's RE. He faced Zero twice, whose day vote is pretty good, and he went even with him. Kratos faced Diablo, who has a decent day vote, and gained a little bit. Sheena owned Jill with the day vote, and she's RE. Kratos faced Midna/Scorpion/Agent 47, and he went even with them.

So Tales of Symphonia's day vote is average, but average is better than most of the cult stuff you see around here.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/30/2009 4:07:39 PM | message detail
So...Tales of Symphonia upset coming? Yes? Yes.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/30/2009 4:10:30 PM | message detail
Speaking of sorry-ass day votes...

Aeris failed to go nuts during the day vote against Marle of all people.

How? Doesn't Chrono Trigger have a dreadful ASV?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 4:12:40 PM | message detail
Aeris/Marle was a weekend match for one, and for two, for some reason the FFVII girls have the exact opposite trends the guys do. Tifa's the same way. Great night vote, horrible day vote.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 4:21:01 PM | message detail
You'd think the horny teens would vote for them.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/30/2009 4:21:48 PM | message detail
Back from being out.

SA > VC > 3 is the norm everywhere else and I don't see it being any different here.

Vercetti > CJ is possible because games =/= characters and Vercetti is a much better character in Vice City than CJ in San Andreas.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 4:22:17 PM | message detail
So Tales of Symphonia's day vote is average, but average is better than most of the cult stuff you see around here.

It should probably be 3rd in the ASV tomorrow. If Kratos is any indication, God of War should have a great ASV. And Morrowind went up like .30% during the asv in its last match, so Oblivion seems like it should have a good asv as well.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/30/2009 4:26:06 PM | message detail
I'm staying out of this conversation for the most part, but I'll add this bit: even if Kratos Aurion went up on Diddy Kong by a little bit in the ASV, that's neverminding that Captain Falcon was also in the match and Alucard dropped a ton with the ASV as expected...so at least one character had to gain. Guess who did? All three of the other opponents, so gaining in general was no biggy and Kratos didn't improve very much on Diddy despite CF.

That's all. I don't really want to discuss ToS further until the match starts (or maybe even finishes). No offense intended to the fans of the game, but it seems like every match ToS is represented, people have to make the stretch of a "reasonable" upset possibility and defend it until the very end despite its current track record, and that's just not fun for me. No need to preach games =/= characters either; I'll eat my words if it pulls something out tomorrow, but meh...never liked its chances for even third place.


(ps i apparently do the same for earthbound and i dont even like it)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 4:26:44 PM | message detail
Morrowind barely went up with three games that are not known for their day votes, so I don't see Oblivion having a great one because of that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/30/2009 4:27:56 PM | message detail
No offense intended to the fans of the game, but it seems like every match ToS is represented, people have to make the stretch of a "reasonable" upset possibility and defend it until the very end despite its current track record

Which is the exact reason I refused to pick ToS to advance here, so if it FINALLY does the ONE time I don't pick it, I'm going to kick myself.

And probably a few kittens as well.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/30/2009 4:28:28 PM | message detail
Not a great ASV, but a good one. It shouldn't go down during the ASV at least.
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