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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 695

transients | Posted 4/29/2009 6:13:16 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3468&type=1&seconds=60&max=0
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/29/2009 6:17:28 PM | message detail
What a nice rainbow.
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 6:23:44 PM | message detail
If FE can beat Disgaea, more power to it...but I expect SSBM and LoZ:WW to smother it. FFTA doubled it in 2004 and now it's got two huge Nintendo games from that time hovering over it while Disgaea is a SRPG too. FE was introduced to America through SSBM, too...and I know this starts a debate, but if you played enough SSBM to get interested in Marth's/Roy's games, you really like SSBM. It's not like you can't also like FE or even feel like FE > SSBM, but they need to have a lot of Nintendo fans that think FE > SSBM/LoZ:WW and SRPG-fans believing FE > Disgaea...that's going to be hard to support well. I don't think there are that many FE fans that didn't start with SSBM, either, though FE's other games have helped it get some general presence in America.

Still, FE's boned. Those are the two Nintendo games of that era that'll be holding it back while Disgaea's easily the most independent...and FE still needs to recover from being doubled by FFTA five years ago too. I don't like its case one bit.

Oh, and polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 (this was before the Gamecube even came out though; it's unfair)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1485
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2244
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2245
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2988

FE doesn't have a great track-record.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Lopen | Posted 4/29/2009 6:28:56 PM | message detail
From: Smurf | #03something
Of course, Smurf. What kinda loser would forget Halo's dominant ASV.

my bad, if it was down 4 million votes halo would still come back to win right?


What people fail to realize is that if Halo was down by like... 500 less votes, it would also be gaining more from its cuts because the percentage shift would go further in its favor. Put Halo down by, say, 2700 instead of 3700 to start the day and I'd take it to come damn close despite being down 2000 right now.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/29/2009 6:29:03 PM | message detail
From: Janus5000
24.79%

25.90%

24.79%

24.52%


Yeah it just beats the 10:34 which was 25.06%/24.08%/25.31%/25.55%
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But very close.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/29/2009 6:49:09 PM | message detail
Looks like the best case scenario IMO. D2 > Halo was my bracket, but KotOR went and redeemed GameFAQs taste somewhat.

Too bad this basically means Halo 2 and 3 are screwed in their matches, though I still have faith in MGS3 tanking.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 6:53:59 PM | message detail
If 3 is as strong or weaker than 2, then it easily could. I really hope that isn't the case, but it wouldn't be right to deny the possibility after MGS2's weak performance.
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Cecil XIX | Posted 4/29/2009 6:56:04 PM | message detail
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/29/2009 6:57:04 PM | message detail
Pssst, I think you're in the wrong topic.
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Mebbe.
H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 6:58:21 PM | message detail
Well, if you assume Starcraft ~= D2 and FFX >= FF8, Halo is ~= MGS2. While I prefer to think Halo 2 >= Halo, I definitely believe MGS3 > MGS2. It should be fairly close anyway and Halo 2 did look reasonably better in 2004's GotY-polls than MGS3, but I like MGS3 > Halo 2 in today's GameFAQs...and just throw WoW somewhere around them.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 6:59:37 PM | message detail
Believing Halo 2 to be stronger than Halo is like thinking Brawl will be stronger than Melee.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 7:01:11 PM | message detail
It should be fairly close anyway and Halo 2 did look reasonably better in 2004's GotY-polls than MGS3

We gotta remember the new theory, though. Halo-mania was running wild then. Microsoft made sure of that!
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 7:02:36 PM | message detail
Thus, "I like MGS3 > Halo 2 in today's GameFAQs!"
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 7:03:22 PM | message detail
Believing Halo 2 to be stronger than Halo is like thinking Brawl will be stronger than Melee.

Isn't this what a vast majority of people believed six months ago? If Brawl had done better in those GotY polls, that would still be the consensus.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 7:04:27 PM | message detail
What we believed six months ago doesn't really have any bearing on what we believe now.

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H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 7:04:48 PM | message detail
Here's some fun in polls a month and a half apart:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1825
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1877
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
transients | Posted 4/29/2009 7:05:01 PM | message detail
I see no real reason why Halo has to be miles stronger than Halo 2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 7:06:19 PM | message detail
What we believed six months ago doesn't really have any bearing on what we believe now.

Right, but the key difference is that we've seen Brawl stink it up in a poll. Halo/Halo 2 is still all speculation.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/29/2009 7:07:16 PM | message detail
From: H__RR____H
Here's some fun in polls a month and a half apart:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1825
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1877


Ehhh. All they're doing is showing you where the apathy votes are going. GTA and Prime. Basic opinion has barely shifted.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 7:07:49 PM | message detail
Not really. How many more examples of hype backlash do we need to see before we don't start assuming that hyped game=powerhouse? Brawl and GTAIV and Halo 3 weren't enough?

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 7:09:53 PM | message detail
And for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Halo 2's hype backlash was worse than 3's. I've also heard a lot of anecdotal evidence about it being the least favorite of the series in Halo circles.

I don't think Halo will be leagues ahead of Halo 2, but I'm 99% sure it will be stronger. By how much is up for debate.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 7:12:42 PM | message detail
I think it'll be a bit stronger too.

I thought the backlash was worst for 3. When it came out, I heard a ton of complaints about how it was essentially Halo HD. After playing about a quarter of the game, I could see where those complaints were coming from.

But all three are going to bomb anyway so why does it matter
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/29/2009 7:13:28 PM | message detail
And Halo is now ahead of KOTOR, and I will get two points from this match again like I should.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/29/2009 7:14:05 PM | message detail
Everyone I knew IRL preferred Halo 2 around the time it came out, mostly for the superior multiplayer. I don't know where all this evidence of backlash is.
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 7:14:49 PM | message detail
Halo 2 first got the Xbox big online, shattered pre-sales before the Halo series was really expected-expected to with each release, has definitely had the most impressive GotY-showing here, and I understood Halo 3 was received rather apathetically in comparison to Halo/2's releases. Halo 2 may be at the bottom with the fanbase, but there shouldn't be a big gap from it and the others.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/29/2009 7:15:01 PM | message detail
There's also a possibility that Halo manages to overtake Diablo II so I get the full four points from this match.
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 7:15:10 PM | message detail
The thing was, Halo 3's hype was all advertising and Game Fuel and FINISH THE FIGHT. It got the word out, but it didn't make any insane promises.

Halo 2 's first trailer used graphics the game never ended up being able to use, in a scenario that was scrapped. It kind of went downhill from there, all culminating in the game basically not having an ending.

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MnMZero | Posted 4/29/2009 7:15:14 PM | message detail
Uh, the only reason why Halo 2 would be more liked than Halo is because of Xbox Live. Now that Halo 3 is out, Halo 2 has become the black sheep of the series.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/29/2009 7:15:55 PM | message detail
The ASV appears to finally be slowing down. Halo's cut 1600 votes off a 3500 vote lead, and looks like it might cut another hundred or two before we're done.....impressive enough.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/29/2009 7:16:22 PM | message detail
Halo 2 was much more appreciated among multi-player centric gamers. The problem was the single-player was practically a filler piece of crap.

I'd imagine GameFAQs has a large enough share of multi-player gamers to balance out the hate since... they do like SSB. A game like that ranking among your favorites for the single player would be pretty curious
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/29/2009 7:16:54 PM | message detail
Uh, the only reason why Halo 2 would be more liked than Halo is because of Xbox Live. Now that Halo 3 is out, Halo 2 has become the black sheep of the series.

This, too.

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/29/2009 7:18:52 PM | message detail
@KamikazePotato: Brawl will most definetely be stronger than Melee! After all, take into account that Brawl has won a GOTY on this site while Melee hasn't.

Of course, GOTY is absolutely irrelevant in these polls it seems, seeing as how the 2002 GOTY couldn't beat two games that it already beat in the GOTY poll.
H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 7:22:40 PM | message detail
Of course, GOTY is absolutely irrelevant in these polls it seems, seeing as how the 2002 GOTY couldn't beat two games that it already beat in the GOTY poll.

Gamecube and Xbox had just come out. Yes, FFX had too, but it's much easier to invest $50 than invest $300+ for Christmas and neither system was originally looked forward to very much pre-launch in comparison to the PS2 while Square reigned supreme here.
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Karma Hunter | Posted 4/29/2009 7:29:12 PM | message detail
...try again, Harr.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/29/2009 7:32:02 PM | message detail
In terms of Halo: 3 > 1 > 2. 3 has the best multi, but 1 has the best single-player. 2 has the worst everything.

However, I think Halo 2 hate is being overrated. It's not going to be THAT much weaker than 1. I don't expect it to come close to MGS3, but even after today I still think it can beat the other games there.
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/29/2009 7:32:49 PM | message detail
...oh yeah. Damn you KH (see what I did there?)!!!
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BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285
Lopen | Posted 4/29/2009 7:33:56 PM | message detail
I like how people who know nothing about the Halo fanbase are trying to say that Halo 2 is going to be a "black sheep"

If anything Halo 3 will be the black sheep. Halo 2 should do fine.
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 4/29/2009 7:33:59 PM | message detail
I have a feeling MGS3 is going to be weaker than MGS2. I dont see it beating Halo 2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/29/2009 7:36:52 PM | message detail
If anything Halo 3 will be the black sheep. Halo 2 should do fine.

I get this feeling as well. Halo 3 was completely outclassed by a third party shooter released at the same time for the same system. At least the original Xbox Halos were top dogs on their own console.

But I reiterate, I don't think the strength disparity between the three will be significant, and I expect all three to disappoint.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/29/2009 7:38:54 PM | message detail
Brawl will most definetely be stronger than Melee! After all, take into account that Brawl has won a GOTY on this site while Melee hasn't.

Melee was unable to win a GotY because it had to deal with FFX, which proved to be much stronger than it.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 4/29/2009 7:42:12 PM | message detail
Campaign wise: Halo 3 >>>>>> 2> 1
Multiplayer: Halo 3>> 2 > 1
Karma Hunter | Posted 4/29/2009 7:42:36 PM | message detail
Aside from all the reasons why MGS3 should be significantly stronger than MGS2 which I've outlined before, MGS3's not going to have the #1 game on its system breathing down its neck. Being the only major PS2 powerhouse there (no, Okami doesn't count) against a Halo game and WoW, I expect it to impress more than anyone's expecting.
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lightsout06 | Posted 4/29/2009 7:46:01 PM | message detail
Watch out Diablo, Halo is not finished yet. Also Halo 2 will not be weak at all. I see them about the same because it had online. If anything Halo 3 will be the weakest, but may benefit from the mass effect/fallout 3 battle. This site loves RPGs so they will split many votes.

Halo 2 prolly will not advance just b/c of MGS3 and WoW will be strong
MnMZero | Posted 4/29/2009 7:46:19 PM | message detail
Halo 2 actually was my favorite campaign. Halo 3 was my least favorite. It just had online co-op.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 4/29/2009 7:48:09 PM | message detail
I really don't understand how anyone can prefer Halo 1's campaign to 3. The locations are sooo much better (not just recycled versions of the same areas), way more (and way awesomer) vehicles, and a better overall story. Not to mention better gameplay overall.
ZFS | Posted 4/29/2009 7:49:09 PM | message detail
But I reiterate, I don't think the strength disparity between the three will be significant, and I expect all three to disappoint.

This is what I've always thought. I think Halo's the strongest, but it's not by any kind of significant amount, and I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 2 happened to do better.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/29/2009 7:49:52 PM | message detail
I can't imagine anyone preferring Halo 2 or 3's campaign to Halo 1. H3's only redeeming aspect was the co-op, while H2 suffered from both MGS2 syndrome and having no ending to speak of. Halo actually had a consistency and variety to its objectives and gameplay, told a cohesive story throughout, and most of H2 and H3 was spent deriving off of scenarios Halo had already done.

I honestly think Halo would have beaten D2 today if not for KOTOR, and I expect it to win next round. H2 and H3, I don't see doing much of anything.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/29/2009 7:52:01 PM | message detail
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Lopen | Posted 4/29/2009 7:52:04 PM | message detail
Halo SFFed to hell by Star Wars, beats D2 by over 7% next round.

Believe
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/29/2009 7:52:07 PM | message detail
I think Melee is being underestimated here. I know it's probably been hurt by the Deboost, but there's a reason Brawl was so incredibly hyped in the first place. That SMB/SSB poll just blows my mind, especially after we've seen other series with a few strong games not be strong series.
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