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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 694

Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/28/2009 7:52:42 PM | message detail
Oh god im watching the old Double Dragon Cartoon.

what the hell
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 7:53:19 PM | message detail

From: KingBartz | #050
Anyone else think we will see low votals tomorrow because of this nintendo-less, square-less, Japan-less match?


I hope not since it'll mean Gamefaqs taste is bad but most likely.
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Meeks54 | Posted 4/28/2009 7:54:22 PM | message detail

From: KingBartz | #050
Anyone else think we will see low votals tomorrow because of this nintendo-less, square-less, Japan-less match?




I think we will see low vote totals because.

LOL Blizzard
LOL Halo
LOL GTA
KoToR is an incredible game, but going to die here, so LOL GameFAQs.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/28/2009 7:54:48 PM | message detail
It's nice to have the DICE-GotY on your side, sure, but as far as what's relevant for the contest, GameFAQs's GotY-polls are where the money's at. What this demographic used to think is more important than what DICE once thought.
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Big Bob | Posted 4/28/2009 7:55:06 PM | message detail
The only one of these games I've played all the way through was GTAIII, and it wasn't anything special to me.
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creativename | Posted 4/28/2009 7:57:21 PM | message detail
There was a Double Dragon cartoon?

And I just checked, KOTOR was RPG of the Year that year. Call of Duty was GOTY.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 7:59:28 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #056
There was a Double Dragon cartoon?

And I just checked, KOTOR was RPG of the Year that year. Call of Duty was GOTY.


Ah really? Coulda sworn it was KOTOR.. maybe it was another awards I was thinking of KOTOR won.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/28/2009 8:01:16 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #056
There was a Double Dragon cartoon?




yep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcJTs9NUl4


Its as ridiculous as it looks
MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/28/2009 8:13:49 PM | message detail
Is the match pic up yet?
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/28/2009 8:13:52 PM | message detail
come on next match
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NP: Kingdom Hearts > Metroid Prime | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4
Karma Hunter | Posted 4/28/2009 8:18:20 PM | message detail
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Must... resist... urge to comment on Bastila fanboyism...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:19:06 PM | message detail
Bastila is hot.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/28/2009 8:19:59 PM | message detail
Bastila fanboyism? Worst character in the game, easily.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/28/2009 8:24:21 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:26:24 PM | message detail
good job with spoilers there pal
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/28/2009 8:26:55 PM | message detail
1. delete that for spoilers
2. have you ever watched a Star Wars movie
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creativename | Posted 4/28/2009 8:27:29 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcJTs9NUl4

Surprisingly catchy theme song there.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/28/2009 8:27:59 PM | message detail
hell yeah it was catchy
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/28/2009 8:28:07 PM | message detail
1. The only thing I spoiled was something that was in the trailer for the game, but fine.
2. Yes. All 6. It only makes Bastila look that much worse in comparisan.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/28/2009 8:29:07 PM | message detail
Looking at the pic

Halo > GTA3 > LoD > KOTOR

course LoD is the best one there.
Too bad Baal is like, the most disappointing final boss fight ever <_<
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/28/2009 8:36:51 PM | message detail
My Predictions

Well, we seem to be in quite the traffic jam here. All four of these games did well on the list, with Halo at #9, Diablo II at #20, GTAIII at #27, and KOTOR at #37. That suggests Halo > Diablo II for this match. In addition, we already know that GTAIII will lose casual votes to Halo, and KOTOR shares the same console, and Xbox SFF doesn't seem so cool right now. Of course, both Halo and Diablo II are revered for co-op multiplayer, so who knows if those two games also share a fanbase? And finally, let's look at Diablo II's performance in GameSpy's title fight from 5 years ago. In round 1, it owned KOTOR, then proceeded to kill Fallout 2 next, then was almost caught cheating against StarCraft and Counter-Strike in a three-way match, and then beat Ocarina of Time easily to get to the final four and lose to Half-Life! Then again, that contest might not be a good indicator, seeing as how Half-Life was the winner and DOOM was in the final four...finally, GTAIII is most definetely stronger than Vice City and so will beat Knights of the Old Republic. God, I don't want to see KOTOR get FOURTH IN A ROUND 1 MATCH, but the competition here is comprised of some crazily (and bloody) fun games. Much like Metroid Prime's result, I'll just say that KOTOR lost to some very good games in this match.
My Bracket/Prediction: Halo > Diablo II
I'd Like to See: Halo > Knights of the Old Republic (wouldn't mind GTAIII advancing though, 'twas very revolutionary and fun)
Master Moltar | Posted 4/28/2009 8:45:33 PM | message detail
Division 6: Round 1 - Match 23 – Diablo II: Lord of Destruction vs. Grand Theft Auto III vs. Halo: Combat Evolved vs. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Moltar’s Analysis

Diablo II
2004 Results: N/A

Will it follow in Starcraft’s “disappointing” footsteps?

GTA3
2004 Results: N/A

Unlike GTA4, people didn’t turn on this shortly after release

Halo
2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against Starcraft

It’s like Halo 3 minus the Game Fuel!

KOTOR
2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against GTA: Vice City

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Whew, two days in a row with matches were we have three contenders shooting for the top 2 slots. Wish we could’ve had some more matches instead of the ‘weak games battling for second’ at the start. The game not in contention here is Star Wars: KOTOR. We’ve already seen it lose to Vice City 5 years ago, and it has had no reason to increase since then. Plus it’s gotta compete with Halo for Xbox votes and…that won’t go too well.

Speaking of Vice City, we’re looking at it right now, and it’s doing okay. It’s getting a bit too much credit as while it’s beating Prime, it’s also getting killed by KH. Transferring that to GTA3, it’s going to need to do better than that if it wants to advance here. I wouldn’t be shocked to see it in second, but I think the other games have better chances to advance than it.

D2 vs. Halo for first is interesting. On one hand, Diablo 2 isn’t looking as hot after the egg that Starcraft laid. Still, there’s a good chance it is stronger here. An example for that is the fact that Diablo is a decent midcarder in these contests, and I would think that only means good things for a game from the actual series. Another is that it’s a RPG, which the GameFAQs audience tends to gravitate more towards.

On the other hand, Halo is…Halo. You may consider DK a choker, but Halo always finds some way to turn a sure thing into something wacky. It has had near-losses to opponents it should have beaten easily and over-performances on opponents stronger than it. It has lost matches it had no business losing and won matches it had no business winning. 2004 vs. Starcraft was one of the biggest upsets we’ve seen on this site. Luckily for the series, Halo hate isn’t as strong as it was back then. Plus, this format helps Chief, as there is a solid Xbox fanbase on GameFAQs that will support him.

I have Halo winning here because...well you can’t really say anything against it yet. I guess like MP > KH, I didn’t know which had the advantage, so I just went with my favorite. I think D2 takes second, but GTA3 is looking better to place after today. If any game is going to “do the bomb” here, it’s D2, but I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Halo > Diablo II

Moltar’s Prediction is: Halo: 33% - Diablo II: 27% - GTA3: 26% - KOTOR: 14%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

This might be my least favorite match so far, but also one of the most unpredictable. I have no idea what to even think about this one still. Any one of these games could come in first or come in last and I wouldn't be surprised.

You've got Diablo II after StarCraft's disappointing showing, GTAIII after VC's win over Metroid, Halo which never does what you want it to, and a Xbox RPG that was big back in 2003 but has probably faded from most people's minds since. What a mess.

In my bracket, I went with Diablo II > Halo, but I'm not even sure Diablo places anymore. Most PC games have failed to do much of anything, even ones that couldn't have asked for a better draw (Half-Life, specificially). But with this sort of competition, if Diablo does end up being better than StarCraft it could take first no problem.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/28/2009 8:45:49 PM | message detail
Halo on the other hand is always tough to get a good grasp on. Without any Halo game to give the series hype and relevance, it's almost always unimpressive. Halo 3's poor showing back in the GotY 2007 poll doesn't do much to make me believe it's gotten any better either, despite the increased presence of the 360. Still, if there's anything here that has a big enough name to get by, it's Halo.

So here's what I've got -- I'm going with Halo in first place entirely on the basis that we've seen it before and it didn't do terribly. Sure, SC back in 2k4 wasn't the beast it looked like, but losing out to rallying isn't that bad. We've at least seen it and know what's it's capable of. For second, I'm gonna go with GTAIII after Vice City's performance against Metroid. Probably not the best idea, but like with Halo, it's got the name to get by, and also probably the playership. Diablo's the wildcard that could be anywhere from first to last, but I'll stick with Halo and GTA here.

let's see how wrong this is !

Halo -- 29%
Grand Theft Auto III -- 28%
Diablo II -- 25%
Knights of the Old Republic -- 18%

Bracket: Halo > GTA3
Favorites: uhh pass



Lopen’s Analysis

Hey, okay so remember when I was saying “don't doubt GTA”? How the GotY polls should be respected because these ARE the games and those ARE the games? Well, this is why I was saying that. This is a debatable match in which I think GTA3 has been sorely overlooked.

Now, after that egg Starcraft laid, I have a feeling a lot more people will be backing GTA3 here. And they should. Diablo, unlike Starcraft (or GTA for that matter), has never really had any good poll showings going into this match. GTA3, being the original game of the GTA revolution, should get some classix cred here. Halo might take some of its “casual support”, but being the only PS2 game in this poll will carry it far. Much further than say... being the only PC game as people love to say. Far enough that I actually consider it a small threat for first...

I mean, I do think KotoR will hurt Halo significantly, because of the limited ownership numbers of the original Xbox I think console SFF matters in this case, but it shouldn't be enough to allow either of the other two contenders to advance in 1st. Halo should love this format enough to be a beast, just like Master Chief does (I laugh at all of you who claim it was all Halo 3!), and it's primed to tear through the bracket, starting tonight.

Lopen's prediction:
Halo – 33.07%
GTA3 – 31.27%
Diablo II – 23.32%
You wish you were Knights of the Round then you might have a chance – 12.34%



Transience’s Analysis

Holy Prime bomb. I'm not sure today's result says much for GTA -- or Kingdom Hearts, for that matter -- but it definitely says something about Metroid Prime. Niiiiiiiice bomb.

Tomorrow's match is the only one this contest that I have literally zero idea what is going to happen. I have a hell of a time even hazarding a guess. Time to ramble!

I guess we can start with GTA3 - people are perceiving Vice City to be doing well today, but I don't see it - it's still getting 60/40'd by Kingdom Hearts. That's not very impressive, not from a game that got 46% on SSBM. That's not to say that 3 can't advance here though. I think it's about equal to Vice City, maybe a little bit weaker.

Diablo 2 has been kind of written off because of Starcraft's "bomb".. but again, Starcraft getting 60/40'd by FF8, which is probably better than being 60-40'd by Kingdom Hearts. Diablo also strikes me as being more GameFAQs-friendly than Starcraft: it's got RPG elements and seems a bit more relevant to the site. It did just as well as Starcraft on The List and is probably in the top 5 for the most FAQ hits ever. To this day it's still in the top 25. That's crazy.
Master Moltar | Posted 4/28/2009 8:46:36 PM | message detail
Then there's Halo. Shooters have looked uniformly bad this year so far: Doom, Half-Life, and now Metroid Prime. (No, I don't care if you call it a FPA or whatever.) Halo also absolutely bombed in the 2007 GOTY, getting beat down by COD4. Halo's got the added problem of KOTOR, the only real Xbox game of note besides Halo, being in the same poll. All this said, it's still easily the best-known game in the poll and it's probably the strongest Halo game thanks to being the first. We haven't seen Halo yet, so it's tough to completely write it off. Master Chief's performance last year was a bomb for sure, but I'm not sure if we can equate Master Chief to Halo; there's lots of people that care about the game and not about the Chief, even moreso than other games.

What am I going to do? Hell if I know.

transience's prediction:

Halo - 32%
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction - 28%
Grand Theft Auto III - 26%
Knights of the Old Republic - 14%



Leon’s Analysis

Diablo II: Lord of Destruction: Halo/Diablo II almost seems like another Halo/StarCraft match. The only question is if Diablo II can pull off the win. I’m going to say no, and here’s why. Halo was very hated back in 2004 when StarCraft beat it, and that’s no longer the case. I’m not sure Diablo II is as strong as StarCraft anyway, and if it’s anything like its companion, it’ll need some rallying/cheating to win. I like Diablo II to advance here, just not in first place.

Grand Theft Auto III: Five years ago, this is a winnable match for Grand Theft Auto III. I don’t even know how popular this version is compared to Vice City or San Andreas, but I can’t imagine it’d be too much stronger, if at all. After all, Vercetti has only looked worse and worse as time has gone by. This fourpack is kinda weird in a way and somewhat up in the air since all four contenders have something to prove and have yet to prove it. Vice City’s good showing against Metroid Prime is a good sign for Grand Theft Auto III here and gives it some hope, but I know I’d take Halo over Prime, and I’ll take Vice City over GTA III until proven otherwise. It’s got a better shot than I originally thought it did. I think first place is probably out of the question, but if Diablo II bombs as hard as StarCraft did, look for this game to move in.

Halo: Combat Evolved: Hey, The List says Halo is more popular than Final Fantasy VI, and after seeing FFVI’s rather lackluster performance, who you got?! Seriously though, I think Halo takes first place without too much trouble. The anti-Xbox stigma is long gone (and did my spell check just autocorrect Xbox? Yes, it did! Darn you Microsoft), so that won’t be a factor here. Plus, the format negates anti-voting’s effects significantly anyway. I question the strength of the sequels, but I think the original Halo should still be strong.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: This game scored 40% on Vice City in a match that ran for 48 hours and still only got 90,000 votes (That was during the site redesign, for those who weren’t here at that time). While that 40% on Vice City is pretty impressive, I’d be kinda surprised if it could advance here. I don’t think the Star Wars name brand is worth THAT much here, and the first Games Contest proved that. Still, this fourpack is wide open, so anything’s possible. KOTOR just doesn’t seem to have a good reason to advance though, to me.

Leonhart’s Vote: Halo, since it’s the only one of these I’ve played!

Leonhart’s Prediction:

Diablo II – 26.02%
Grand Theft Auto III – 24.94%
Halo – 31.01%
Knights of the Old Republic – 17.03%
Master Moltar | Posted 4/28/2009 8:46:56 PM | message detail
Ed Bellis’s Analysis

Diablo II. I always kinda wondered if Diablo II was stronger than Starcraft, and with the egg the latter laid against FF8, I guess it probably is! I have D2 taking first place here against Halo in my bracket, but I’m gonna go against that thanks to previous trends. Like they matter at all. I swear, this contest just makes up new rules as it goes…

Grand Theft Auto III. Even after Vice City did pretty well, I still refuse to bet on Grand Theft Auto; I’ve been burned too many times in the past. I have no idea what to make of this entrant – it would make sense to have GTA3 be the weakest of the four games.

Halo. Presumably the strongest of the Halo trilogy, Halo’s strength has likely gone up since 2004 thanks to increased popularity and the format preventing “anti-votes.” I expect it to get first here.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. I doubt this will amount to much.

Prediction: yeeeeeahhh
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction with 28.55%
Grand Theft Auto III with 26.09%
Halo with 32.90%
Knights of the Old Republic with 12.46%



Guest’s Analysis - KleenexTissue50

We're getting to the point in Round 1 where everyone's bracket's going to take a beating. In two days we've got eight matches with games that no one's seen in a contest setting before, and the tail end of this division is going to be a bit of a precursor to that.

Yesterday showed us that Metroid games, in all likelihood, suck. Also, GTA games might not be as bad as we thought. Which make this match almost a complete tossup. Pre-contest, Diablo 2 had some HYPE HYPE HYPE because of BLIZZARDFEAR, but after StarCraft bombed a few days ago, it's hard to imagine this game being any kind of scary entity. Then, of course, we've got two potential jobbers in Halo and GTA3. The only thing I'm feeling pretty good about here is KotOR not placing, but that could happen too. Who the hell knows.

In my bracket, I have Diablo 2 > Halo here. I felt moderately comfortable with that initially. I even have D2 going through to round 3. But after StarCraft's lackluster performance, I'm not feeling so great about it anymore. Vice City did well yesterday, but I don't think GTA3 is going to be as strong or stronger than it.

So really I'm just going around in circles here. This match will likely come down to which game stinks up the joint less. For the sake of hip upset picks and sticking with my bracket, I'm going to stay on Diablo 2 > Halo here. Halo and GTA are both casual bait, so that might hinder them and let Diablo slip in, ever so slightly. I've just got a feeling that Diablo's going to be more impressive than StarCraft this year. Look for D2 to take a big lead over night, Halo to wipe that lead out during the day, then have D2 steal the match in a photo-finish...uh...finish.

Yeah, let's go with that.

Kleenex's Prediction
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction - 31.12%
Grand Theft Auto III - 25.38%
Halo - 31.08%
Knights of the Old Republic - 12.42%



Crew Consensus: Halo > D2 is the majority, with Halo > GTA3 and D2 > Halo also being represented.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:47:53 PM | message detail
Hmm who will get the board vote here?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/28/2009 8:49:29 PM | message detail
I'm saying this now, since I predicted GTA: VC performing well. Diablo 2 will finish in first in a rout. Halo and GTA III will have an interesting battle for second, with Halo winning in the end.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:50:09 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #078
I'm saying this now, since I predicted GTA: VC performing well. Diablo 2 will finish in first in a rout. Halo and GTA III will have an interesting battle for second, with Halo winning in the end.


Pretty bold statement there! Got percentage prediction?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/28/2009 8:50:41 PM | message detail
I'm not good with percentages. Diablo with over 30%.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/28/2009 8:51:09 PM | message detail
I guess I shouldn't say rout, but it won't get threatened by the other games.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/28/2009 8:54:29 PM | message detail
WHY DID KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC GET SO HORRIBLY SHAFTED?

We need to see a games contest where games are NOT grouped by era, just like the Video Game Madness tourneys that are held annualy at Rotten Tomatoes. That would be cool!
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/28/2009 8:55:23 PM | message detail
KotOR wouldn't beat much in a neutral bracket either.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:55:39 PM | message detail
Seriously. Shoulda replaced KOTOR with like Fire Emblem tomorrow. Both games are horrible positions to be SFF'd big time, but changing their positions lets them be at full strength.
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MetricTrout | Posted 4/28/2009 8:56:11 PM | message detail
Whoosh. Well, there goes that part of my bracket. Way to suck, Metroid.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 8:57:24 PM | message detail
Time to see if Diablo 2 really is stronger then Starcraft or not like my gut tells me!
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Lopen | Posted 4/28/2009 8:59:23 PM | message detail
Who wants some Halo beatdown let's do this.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 4/28/2009 8:59:37 PM | message detail
Cue the epic Halo music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjvo0SPAOiQ

AWWW YEAH!
Master Moltar | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:18 PM | message detail
KotOR with the board vote!
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Match 23 - Bracket: Halo > D2 - Vote: KotOR (63/88)
Mr3790 | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:20 PM | message detail
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 25% 2
Grand Theft Auto III 25% 2
Halo: Combat Evolved 25% 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 25% 2
TOTAL VOTES 8


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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:21 PM | message detail
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 16%

4
Grand Theft Auto III 12%

3
Halo: Combat Evolved 32%

8
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 40%

10
TOTAL VOTES 25

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:27 PM | message detail
go go go go KOTOR
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Today's prediction: Halo 31.00% - GTA3 26.55% - Diablo II 26.27% - KOTOR 16.18%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:29 PM | message detail
nice kotor board vote!
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TheOceIot | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:42 PM | message detail
aww yeah go kotor go
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:44 PM | message detail
Board 8 with the good taste there!
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/28/2009 9:00:54 PM | message detail
epic match
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/28/2009 9:01:03 PM | message detail
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 28.13% 27
Grand Theft Auto III 15.63% 15
Halo: Combat Evolved 28.13% 27
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 28.13% 27
TOTAL VOTES 96


OMFG WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!?
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"Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/28/2009 9:01:18 PM | message detail
LoD and Kotor are fightan for the 1st place board vote

Halo says lol no



and GTA3 is straggling
red sox 777 | Posted 4/28/2009 9:01:18 PM | message detail
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 27.61% 45
Grand Theft Auto III 17.79% 29
Halo: Combat Evolved 26.99% 44
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 27.61% 45
TOTAL VOTES 163

3-way race for first?
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Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests.
GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/28/2009 9:01:25 PM | message detail
ha.. KOTOR not ready to go down yet
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Today's prediction: Halo 31.00% - GTA3 26.55% - Diablo II 26.27% - KOTOR 16.18%
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