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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 693

transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:41:21 AM | message detail
oh, I guess KH2 might be worse.

...not by much though!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/28/2009 11:41:33 AM | message detail
if KH has a worse opponent than FF10, I'd like to know what it is.

FFVII DUUUUUUUH
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ZFS | Posted 4/28/2009 11:41:38 AM | message detail
I'm liking KH to advance with FFX a lot next round.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 11:41:56 AM | message detail

From: transience | #349
if KH has a worse opponent than FF10, I'd like to know what it is.

lookin' forward to KH/MGS2 arguments.


KH2?
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transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:42:05 AM | message detail
anyway, is anyone still taking Prime over Super Metroid?

also, is anybody taking Starcraft seriously at all? or Wind Waker?
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/28/2009 11:42:12 AM | message detail
here's an argument

MGS2 won't come close to KH next round

the end
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Today's prediction: Darkness 33.85% - Prime 29.00% - Hawaiian Shirt City 21.78% - Pepper Mario 15.37%
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/28/2009 11:42:19 AM | message detail
Sonic and Megaman have their names in the their games though and they have 100 of them. You know them even if you've never played a game before.

Samus is just freaking weird
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transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:42:23 AM | message detail
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transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:43:10 AM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/28/2009 11:43:22 AM | message detail
The sudden switch to beta messed me all up wtf
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transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:44:01 AM | message detail
whoaaaa gamefox just went nuts

good show, beta
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 4/28/2009 11:44:44 AM | message detail
layout change will create an epic Prime comeback




not
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Today's prediction: Darkness 33.85% - Prime 29.00% - Hawaiian Shirt City 21.78% - Pepper Mario 15.37%
Status: poo
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 11:45:12 AM | message detail
gamefox better be updated soon

I can't stand normal posting
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transience | Posted 4/28/2009 11:46:17 AM | message detail
well, there's one upside to the upgrade!
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MnMZero | Posted 4/28/2009 11:54:56 AM | message detail
I see it more of the former really. I wouldn't have dared expected KH to be beating this 4-pack like it is today. A PS2 GTA game slightly edging out Metroid Prime which has a (weak) Mario game holding it back a bit? I expected Metroid Prime to beat GTA, but I'm not really surprised that it isn't. I think this topic just overrates how strong a series Metroid is on this site. It's a mid-tier series with a top-tier character. A Metroid game going even with a Mario Kart game is not disappointing. I don't think any Metroid game has had an embarrassing performance unless you simply looked at a Metroid game as a high-tier game.

On the other hand, Kingdom Hearts is looking damn impressive to me. Judging by the series contest and previous KH game results in polls, I just looked at KH to be a mid-tier series, but it looks like the individual KH games are much stronger than how it looked as a series. If KH was doing this to just MP, then I could see the latter looking disappointing. But it's doing the same thing to a PS2 GTA game, which I would have never seen it doing. I'm thinking that KH suffered in the series contest from the same thing that Sonic and Mega Man may have benefited from. It simply may not have had the roots to hold up as a "series", while its individual games remained popular. Just a theory mind you, but Kingdom Hearts is definitely looking impressive.

Also, I guess GTAIV's reception on this site seemed to make me think that GTA fell off as a whole, but if Vice City is getting some support, then it may just be that GTAIV sucks and the PS2 games might actually have grown some "roots" amongst the GTA fanbase. Do you guys think GTAIV beats any of the PS2 games?
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MnMZero | Posted 4/28/2009 11:56:01 AM | message detail
That was in response to transience's post from early, btw. I just posted it really slow.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/28/2009 12:07:56 PM | message detail
lol Paper Mario with the ASV
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BGE2 - Today's Match: KH > GTA: VC Points: 61/84
transience | Posted 4/28/2009 12:10:52 PM | message detail
well, I think I had higher expectations than you did, maybe. its two games beat Halo's two games in the series contest, and Halo's probably more popular than Prime, or at least on the same level. it also did pretty good on Metal Gear, all things considered. KH was obviously going to grow from 2004.

I had KH at 36% and it'll probably finish around 38-39. I'm just not seeing how this is some kind of great performance unless you expected Prime to outright win, and I never really saw that as being too likely. Prime is just sucking it up worse than I expected. GTA isn't even doing that well, this looks like Prime's fault to me.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:14:56 PM | message detail
Well, so far MP is 4th in the ASV.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/28/2009 12:18:03 PM | message detail
Where is your ASV KH. Don't tell me you're going to end the match with a better night vote
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/28/2009 12:19:48 PM | message detail
Paper Mario having an ASV makes me happy.
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BGE2 - Today: KH > MP - Points: 59/84 Vote: PM!
Angrist95 | Posted 4/28/2009 12:21:51 PM | message detail
Cant believe KH is beating out Metroid Prime.....what a sad day ; ;
LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:24:41 PM | message detail
I had KH at 36% and it'll probably finish around 38-39. I'm just not seeing how this is some kind of great performance unless you expected Prime to outright win, and I never really saw that as being too likely. Prime is just sucking it up worse than I expected. GTA isn't even doing that well, this looks like Prime's fault to me.

Well, you can't just look at KH's final percentage and say that's that. You have to also judge KH by how it's doing relative to the other three, and you can't deny it's doing well on that front.

Same thing with FFX yesterday. Sure, people expected FFX to get 44-46%, but they didn't expect it to beat MGS2 as badly as it did. Suppose you can blame that on MGS2 and blame it on Prime today, but I still think FFX and KH deserve more credit for just being that much stronger than their competition.

Also, uhh...Does Pokemon beat Metroid in a Series Contest rematch?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:25:55 PM | message detail
Also, uhh...Does Pokemon beat Metroid in a Series Contest rematch?

Easily, I'd think.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:26:11 PM | message detail
Also, it looks like Vice City is dropping off pretty big with the ASV, but the beneficiary isn't Kingdom Hearts or Metroid Prime. It's...Paper Mario?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:27:14 PM | message detail
Metroid Prime is falling off in the ASV, as well

seems kids don't like robot FPS that arent halo
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XxSoulxX | Posted 4/28/2009 12:27:16 PM | message detail
Also, uhh...Does Pokemon beat Metroid in a Series Contest rematch?

Yes. Pokemon has gained a lot since the series contest (it just started to get strong then, and it's maturing right now), while Metroid looks to have gotten weaker.
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voltch | Posted 4/28/2009 12:28:01 PM | message detail
weird ass match so far,i reckon the newer the games the more wonky the trends.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:30:07 PM | message detail
Maybe the KH fanbases are growing up?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/28/2009 12:34:00 PM | message detail
On what basis as of now can we say Metroid has gotten weaker? We honestly had little clue on where both of the main games truly were.
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BGE2 - Today: KH > MP - Points: 59/84 Vote: PM!
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:34:37 PM | message detail
Metroid PRime barely beat Half Life pre Half Life 2.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/28/2009 12:35:45 PM | message detail
After seeing this, does anyone else like Mario Kart over Super Metroid better for next round?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:36:09 PM | message detail
I did already, but this just makes me feel better about Mario Kart!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/28/2009 12:38:09 PM | message detail
Metroid PRime barely beat Half Life pre Half Life 2.

I'm talking about where they truly where. We don't have any comparisons of Metroid games enough to say they actually dropped because we don't even know where they were in the first place.
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BGE2 - Today: KH > MP - Points: 59/84 Vote: PM!
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/28/2009 12:40:44 PM | message detail
Huh. Is this the first time we've seen an uninspiring ASV from something KH related? It's kinda weird that Paper Mario is the one tearing it up at present.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:41:46 PM | message detail
paper mario has no reason to have a better asv then kh

this is so weird
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/28/2009 12:42:08 PM | message detail
IT'S FREAKING MARIO!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:43:53 PM | message detail
After seeing this, does anyone else like Mario Kart over Super Metroid better for next round?

That match depends more on LTTP than Mario Kart or Super Metroid, honestly. It's very difficult to say which game will hold up better.

And Roxas has had a rather lackluster ASV in his two matches, so this wouldn't be the first time KH hasn't just torn it up.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:45:17 PM | message detail
And Roxas has had a rather lackluster ASV in his two matches, so this wouldn't be the first time KH hasn't just torn it up.

But who cares about Roxas?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/28/2009 12:46:24 PM | message detail
Roxas was in a match with Luigi and still went up like 1.5% with the ASV. That's not bad.

The only other match he was in was a weekend(and he shared a poll with another KH character) so who knows about that
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:46:26 PM | message detail
I like Roxas. It's strange that when people ask those "Who cares about ____?" questions that I usually do care about it.

Besides, RPGuy was simply asking a question, and I was simply answering it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:48:21 PM | message detail
My point is that I wouldn't base KH trends on Roxas, since he's not a character KH fans just have to vote for the same way as Sora and Riku are.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:49:05 PM | message detail
Since when are Kairi and Axel that kind of character?

Or Ansem, for cryin' out loud?
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/28/2009 12:49:24 PM | message detail
Yeah Leon, and Roxas isn't even IN KH1.

DUH
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:50:13 PM | message detail
Kairi gets the horny teenager vote, which helps in the asv.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:50:29 PM | message detail
Oh man, Paper Mario almost cut Metroid Prime!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/28/2009 12:50:40 PM | message detail
Ha, Paper Mario was 3 votes away from tying MP that update.
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ZFS | Posted 4/28/2009 12:50:42 PM | message detail
But Roxas is KH-related, which means something from KH hasn't been great with the ASV before.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2009 12:51:23 PM | message detail
Kairi gets the horny teenager vote, which helps in the asv.

...I don't even want to know how this applies to how well Paper Mario is doing.
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