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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 692

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 2:53:23 PM | message detail
And I'm not taking a shot at Zen or anything, but what is that?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 2:53:43 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #250
Wow, I just realized how bad Morrowind's picture sucks. What the hell is that?


Whats wrong with it?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 2:53:47 PM | message detail
That's...that's...um...

That's a cluster****.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 2:54:49 PM | message detail
Well you've got some dude on the left...and some other dude on the right...and the name down the center because it looked bad horizontally shrunken. I guess.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 2:55:56 PM | message detail
Maybe if you haven't played the game it might look bad... but its 2 of the most prevelant races shown, so it makes sense to me. And the name is too long to fit in the pic normally
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swirIdude | Posted 4/27/2009 2:56:45 PM | message detail
I have no idea what the hell that is, but I voted it out of sheer apathy.
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voltch | Posted 4/27/2009 2:58:16 PM | message detail
oh i get it,Morrowind is written on the side so that slob who wake up with their face of the keyboard can read it when they wake up.
and as a token of thanks they vote for Morrowind.
So really we need some sort of Pics that take care of voters Factor.
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 3:02:34 PM | message detail
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voltch | Posted 4/27/2009 3:07:42 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #256
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ooh i love daffy,If Ariel's No 1 fan(though wouldn't her husband in the movies be her no 1 fan really) can push his idea for a free for all contest Daffy and the looney Tunes vs the mickey mouse club would be fantastic,though if we take th mickey mouse club into account wouldn't that mean it'd be Daffy and Bugs Bunny vs Britney and Christina?

what is the mickey mouse club actually?is it like some sort of training camp for manufactured billion dollar franchises that keep 100s with jobs in these tough economic time like huh miley Cyrus?
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It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 3:28:39 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-22.jpg

Advantage: Ms. Aran. She really stands out.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/27/2009 3:28:42 PM | message detail
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Biolizard28 | Posted 4/27/2009 3:28:58 PM | message detail
Ariel was a fish whore
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/27/2009 3:29:27 PM | message detail
Sora and Riku standing next to each other with a heart inbetween them.

I'm sorry was I the only one that got a funny vibe there
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 3:30:10 PM | message detail
This also sets the stage for blah boxart pics for all the GTAs, which I think hurts GTAIII's chances. It would benefit most from a Claude picture.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/27/2009 3:35:15 PM | message detail
But Claude isn't in Vice City.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/27/2009 3:36:46 PM | message detail
Oh you meant 3.. nevermind.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 3:40:59 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #263
Sora and Riku standing next to each other with a heart inbetween them.

I'm sorry was I the only one that got a funny vibe there


I chuckled when I saw it.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/27/2009 4:00:46 PM | message detail
yay my metroid
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/27/2009 4:29:11 PM | message detail
Ugh. That PM pic is WAY too bright. It hurts my eyes, and somebody screwed up there, 'cause the original box art is not NEARLY as bright.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/27/2009 4:41:25 PM | message detail
Samus dominates that picture. Looks like Metroid Prime > KH for sure.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 4:42:31 PM | message detail
I do think Prime will get a lot closer than most people are predicting. I also think Paper Mario will end up looking really, really bad.
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swirIdude | Posted 4/27/2009 4:43:26 PM | message detail
I originally took Prime 2nd here on the grounds of Paper Mario LFFing it. Funny how things have changed...and yet the KH > MP result still looks likely.

Of course I then put MP > FFX due to 3 PS2 game LFF X_X
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/27/2009 4:51:56 PM | message detail
I have KH > Prime then Prime > FFX as well, and I think that both results will be reversed.

lol my bracket
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 4/27/2009 4:59:13 PM | message detail
I have Prime > VC and then FFX > MP
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/27/2009 5:02:20 PM | message detail
Prime > KH confirmed

and then FFX > Prime

my bracket will rise from the ashes
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 5:20:53 PM | message detail
If Prime wins outright despite Mario in the poll, I don't see why it doesn't deserve a fighting shot in Round 2. We're still not sure how much stronger FFX actually is.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/27/2009 5:25:23 PM | message detail
I really don't see why Paper Mario is going to make a difference when nothing else has.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 5:26:49 PM | message detail
I see Paper Mario barely hurting MP if at all
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/27/2009 5:26:53 PM | message detail
I didn't even consider Paper Mario a factor BEFORE LFF was almost nowhere to be found in this contest.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 5:27:41 PM | message detail
I really, really don't understand that line of thinking, and everyone else is using it, so I might just be insane. How do we know nothing else has when we haven't seen anything more than once?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/27/2009 5:29:14 PM | message detail
I thought Paper Mario was a non-factor before the contest even began, and what we saw (LFF being almost nowhere to be found, along with the successive flops of Yoshi's ISland, Majora's Mask, and Final Fantasy Tactics) only strengthens that.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/27/2009 5:31:50 PM | message detail
Paper Mario was never going to do well because of the Mario name. It will look good because Metroid Prime and Vice City are going to look really bad. Maybe I'll look really stupid, but we'll see in 3 and a half hours!
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creativename | Posted 4/27/2009 5:43:31 PM | message detail
I really, really don't understand that line of thinking, and everyone else is using it, so I might just be insane. How do we know nothing else has when we haven't seen anything more than once?

You shouldn't understand it. People are jumping to conclusions based off nothing except their expectations being thwarted. There will be plenty of LFF in later rounds, and probably has been already (although nothing major, because we have yet to see two overlapping powerhouse games against an independent powerhouse). This "no LFF" stuff is just typical stats topic bandwagoning that will be undone later.

I doubt Paper Mario overlaps with Metroid Prime very much though, they're obviously very different games. Any weakness by Prime will probably have little or nothing to do with PM.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 5:49:16 PM | message detail
Yep, that's why I'm questioning this "no LFF so far" theory. As far as I know, we detect LFF/SFF/splits in this format based on noticeably different performances between rounds. If that's the case, how are we to determine it midway through the first round? We're either using five year old results or our pre-contest expectations, and either or both of those can backfire bigtime.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/27/2009 5:51:17 PM | message detail
I'm okay with believing in some slight overlap, but a n64 RPG and a Gamecube FPS? really?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 5:52:24 PM | message detail
It might be just a smidgen or nothing at all, you're right.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/27/2009 5:55:04 PM | message detail
I just don't want to create the precedent that, if Prime comes in third, we're going to blame Paper Mario and if it does well, we're going to assume it did nothing. it's tough to say too much here.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/27/2009 5:57:30 PM | message detail
If Prime comes in third, I'll skip a few steps and just blame god for creating such a stupid universe.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/27/2009 5:59:07 PM | message detail
I'm okay with believing in some slight overlap, but a n64 RPG and a Gamecube FPS? really?

It's not a FPS, it's a ___!
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trannyscience | Posted 4/27/2009 5:59:50 PM | message detail
I said it just to get that response!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/27/2009 6:11:35 PM | message detail
If Prime wins outright despite Mario in the poll, I don't see why it doesn't deserve a fighting shot in Round 2.

I don't really see Paper Mario hindering Metroid Prime that much. If it wins, then it was on its own strength, honestly. It's probably too close to Kingdom Hearts to still win if it's being LFF'd.

Honestly, I'm not even sure I'd take Prime over MGS2 by too much, so I don't see it taking first next round unless it surprises me and destroys the poll tomorrow or KH hurts FFX a lot.

Still hoping for FFX > MGS2 next round, but not looking good at this point!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/27/2009 6:29:34 PM | message detail
MMX/LA/PSIV
StarCraft/SoulCalibur/Xenogears
MGS2/SH2/TES3

Rank these trios in order of strength.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 6:34:26 PM | message detail
MMX/LA/PSIV
StarCraft/SoulCalibur/Xenogears
MGS2/SH2/TES3
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/27/2009 6:35:26 PM | message detail
Starcraft/SoulCalibur/Xenogears
MMX/LA/PSIV
MGS2/SH2/TES3
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 7:20:46 PM | message detail
Match XXII: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City vs. Kingdom Hearts vs. Metroid Prime vs. Paper Mario

Information:

Name: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Year: 2002
System: PS2
2004 Performance: 60.32% against Star Wars: KotOR, 46.46% against Super Smash Bros. Melee

Name: Kingdom Hearts
Year: 2002
System: PS2
2004 Performance: 50.60% against Soul Calibur, 46.43% against Starcraft

Name: Metroid Prime
Year: 2002
System: GC
2004 Performance: 56.16% against Half-Life, 44.78% against LoZ: The Wind Waker

Name: Paper Mario
Year: 2001
System: N64
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Analysis

Well what do we have here? The three biggest games of 2002 and the sole Nintendo 64 game of the division. At first this was a match of who is the strongest, but eventually this became a match of who will fail the least. Even though the numbers basically mean nothing now just for your information Metroid Prime > Vice City > Kingdom Hearts in the 2002 Game of the Year and using 2004 x-stats Vice City > Kingdom Hearts > Metroid Prime. A lot has changed since 2004, games become forgotten and demographics change. We’re in for an interesting match much unlike today.

As much as I hate to say it doesn’t have a chance Paper Mario is the least likely to advance in this match. In my opinion it would have to rely on two games flopping badly for it to advance. Out of the ten Mario games in this contest this is the only game that won’t advance to the second round and interestingly enough Super Mario Galaxy becomes the only Mario game in this half of the division. Paper Mario’s only job is to keep Metroid Prime in check making this match all the more interesting.

If Paper Mario wasn’t in this poll I would’ve given Metroid Prime first, but since it is it may not even place. After watching Super Metroid struggle with Super Mario Kart I have no faith in the Metroid series when it goes up against a Nintendo game, especially a Mario game. Many people would take Super Metroid over Metroid Prime in a match so seeing it doing that badly is terrible news. Also Half-Life just flopped in its match making Metroid Prime look all the more worse. Of course since 2004 Nintendo has gained more popularity and PC games have done terribly so far (except oddly enough Morrowind) so I’d expect Metroid Prime to defeat Half-Life by more, but that may not be enough to salvage a win.
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 7:20:56 PM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts was the biggest flop in the 2004 contest and with the increase of strength from Sora people believe that Kingdom Hearts is stronger now. What some people seem to forget that Sora’s jump in strength was a mere four months after Kingdom Hearts flopped and really Sora had that strength before, it’s just that he was SFF by Aeris in 2003. Sora’s second jump in strength was in 2006, right after the release of Kingdom Hearts II, just because Sora is stronger than he was in 2004 does not make Kingdom Hearts strong. Sure people who started playing on Kingdom Hearts II may decide to play Kingdom Hearts or even franchise vote it, but the same can be said about Metroid Prime and Vice City. Also with Starcraft flopping worse than I expected things look bad for the game, but we shouldn’t use 2004 stats.

There has been a surge of support for Vice City over the past few days, mostly because of the performances of Starcraft and Half-Life which in turn makes Kingdom Hearts and Metroid Prime look bad. Well Vice City doesn’t need any warning signs in this contest to tell everyone that it will also flop. Since 2003 Grand Theft Auto has been on a downward spiral on this site. Even though its 2004 performance was the most impressive between the three games the last thing Vercetti has done of note was defeat Kefka in 2005. Also Vercetti’s performance in 2007 could spell doom for Vice City though I’m willing to believe that Master Chief was responsible for that performance.

Wow three games with very little to look forward to. I wouldn’t be surprised if the highlight of the match was Paper Mario doing better than expected. Really after reviewing the reasons why each game will fail I’m beginning to think that Paper Mario has a chance though it too has reasons why it won’t place which I won’t get into. I’m going the easy way out a go with my bracket since I believe Metroid Prime will flop more because a Mario game is in the same poll though Vice City or Kingdom Hearts flopping even worse is possible.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kingdom Hearts > GTA: Vice City

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts – 30.26%, GTA: Vice City – 28.42%, Metroid Prime – 26.93%, Paper Mario – 14.39%

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/27/2009 7:29:14 PM | message detail
May I ask this to the people who check or post the match picture first... do you ever get blocked from the site for checking constantly?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 7:30:25 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #297
May I ask this to the people who check or post the match picture first... do you ever get blocked from the site for checking constantly?


Huh?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/27/2009 7:32:05 PM | message detail
How do you check to see if the picture is up without getting 404'd?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 7:32:46 PM | message detail
I just check the URL of the picture every hour or so from 5 PM on.
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