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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 692
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:13:24 AM | message detail |
I blame Master Chief for stealing his casual support. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:14:34 AM | message detail |
Ok fine, I guess I'll be the opposition here. Vice City will finish in the top 2, guaranteed! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:15:04 AM | message detail |
Oh wait, just realized I have VC in third. Whatever, go VC! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:16:42 AM | message detail |
I still stand by my Vice City > Paper Mario tomorrow. I have a feeling PM is going to place. Let's get all 10 Mario games to round 2! --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:18:07 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #086 How is it a different genre? They're both WRPGs by bethesda. People were saying before Fallout 3 released that it was "Oblivion with guns" --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:20:41 AM | message detail |
Really? I could have sworn Fallout 3 was an FPS, based on the fact that it is an FPS. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:21:49 AM | message detail |
It can be played turn based... thats how I played it. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:21:55 AM | message detail |
Fallout 3 is much more an FPS than Oblivion, but it's still a WRPG at heart, especially with VATS. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:22:56 AM | message detail |
And Half-Life is an action/adventure at heart, just with a first person view. And guns. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:23:17 AM | message detail |
If
anything, I'd call Fallout 3 a WRPG with fps elements. You don't even
need to shoot, theres many melee weapons you can use if you decide to
be a stealth kind of character. Plus VATS lets you pause it and shoot
different body parts in a turn based type of way. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:23:45 AM | message detail |
Soul, have you even played Fallout 3? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:25:56 AM | message detail |
Yes, I have it. I also have Oblivion and played the hell out of that too. They are similar, but they aren't the same genre. Trying to find loopholes like "you can only use melee if you want to" is grasping for any sort of proof in my eyes. Oblivion is a WRPG, Fallout is a FPS. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:26:58 AM | message detail |
Oblivion: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/home/927345.html Fallout 3: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/home/939933.html Check the genres at the top. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
creativename | Posted 4/27/2009 9:27:14 AM | message detail |
Fallout 3 is more a WRPG than an FPS. I too am on the "Vice City is going to bomb" train. I guess that makes me the conductor of this particular train. Sorry hochi, you're just riding my coattails on this one :) --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:28:42 AM | message detail |
Fallout
3 uses the same engine as Oblivion, same team, just adds guns. Guns
doesn't make it a fps when everything else is the exact same. Oblivion
has bow and arrows.. does that make it a first person archery game? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:28:49 AM | message detail |
So... a game that revolves around guns and shooting enemies... in first person view... is an RPG. Got ya. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
The Mana Sword | Posted 4/27/2009 9:29:31 AM | message detail |
It's more WRPG than it is FPS, I don't know why we're having this argument again. --- Kleenex...at work! |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:29:31 AM | message detail |
Half-Life lets you use a crowbar too. I guess it's an RPG as well. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:29:59 AM | message detail |
From: The Mana Sword | #117 Because Soul is apparently trying to troll I guess. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
red sox 777 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:30:17 AM | message detail |
Vice
City can completely fail tomorrow (meaning get 60-40'd by its 2004
self) and still beat Metroid Prime. It was projected to beat Prime in
the stats, even with Prime artificially helped by Starcraft's run. The
gap gets much wider when you consider that, and look at what happened
to that half of division 128 this year: Starcraft did badly, Soul
Calibur collapsed, Half-Life got destroyed. Add on that Prime has
probably gotten weaker since 2004 when it was very much in the
spotlight, and that Paper Mario is here, and Vice City can do pretty
badly and still place. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:30:21 AM | message detail |
The Legend of Zelda is an RPG and Melee is a 3D Fighter. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:30:22 AM | message detail |
Plenty of WRPGs have guns/ranged weapons, Soul. Heck, I played Oblivion using almost solely the Bow and Arrow. Does that make it an FPS? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:31:50 AM | message detail |
red sox, if the Melee/Vice City match was re-run today it would get destroyed. That match shouldn't be taken seriously at all, and it is highly overrated in the stats. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
red sox 777 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:32:00 AM | message detail |
Also,
what is the reasoning for SA being the strongest GTA over VC? It seems
to me VC was the game that came out at the very top of the GTA series'
popularity generally. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:32:08 AM | message detail |
Vice
City can completely fail tomorrow (meaning get 60-40'd by its 2004
self) and still beat Metroid Prime. It was projected to beat Prime in
the stats, even with Prime artificially helped by Starcraft's run. The
gap gets much wider when you consider that, and look at what happened
to that half of division 128 this year: Starcraft did badly, Soul
Calibur collapsed, Half-Life got destroyed. Add on that Prime has
probably gotten weaker since 2004 when it was very much in the
spotlight, and that Paper Mario is here, and Vice City can do pretty
badly and still place. That's the reasoning that I took VC over MP when I made my bracket. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if VC took first. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:32:54 AM | message detail |
San Andreas was higher rated, sold more, and uh... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1831 --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:33:06 AM | message detail |
Vice City would need an amazing drop to not place tomorrow. Its possible, but not likely imo. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
red sox 777 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:33:15 AM | message detail |
Oh, it would. Metroid Prime would also get annihilated. Tomorrow is all about who sucks the least. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 4/27/2009 9:33:40 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1831 VC was totally getting LFF'd by 1, 2 and 3. --- Kleenex...at work! |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:33:41 AM | message detail |
Also,
what is the reasoning for SA being the strongest GTA over VC? It seems
to me VC was the game that came out at the very top of the GTA series'
popularity generally. Among GTA fans the rankings go SA >= 3 > VC though casuals go with the newest game. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:33:59 AM | message detail |
That GTA poll was less then a month after San Andreas released. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:34:14 AM | message detail |
Except that in 2k5 we had The Boost, which basically ensures that MP couldn't have dropped off as much as Vice City. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:35:02 AM | message detail |
That GTA poll was less then a month after San Andreas released. It still beat the crap out of the rest of the series. There's also the Game of the Century poll to consider. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:35:09 AM | message detail |
Tomorrow is all about who sucks the least. *looks at analysis* Sounds about right. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:35:52 AM | message detail |
Because Soul is apparently trying to troll I guess. No, I'm not trying to troll. The fact that you guys think an FPS is an RPG is actually freaking me out a bit. Plenty of WRPGs have guns/ranged weapons, Soul. You're right. Plenty of FPS' have melee weapons too. Doesn't mean every FPS game is an RPG, and it doesn't mean every RPG is an FPS. Again, Fallout 3 is an FPS game because it's predominantly a shooter game played in first person. You can play it in third person, and you can go around with a wrench and try to kill a giant supermutant if you want as well, but that doesn't change its genre. The fact is the game revolves around guns and shooting. It is not an RPG just because it shares the same engine as Oblivion. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/27/2009 9:37:07 AM | message detail |
The
game doesn't revolve around guns and shooting, the game revolves around
an open-ended world with plenty of sidequests and leveling up and heavy
character customization. It's an RPG first and foremost. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
red sox 777 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:37:20 AM | message detail |
Except that in 2k5 we had The Boost, which basically ensures that MP couldn't have dropped off as much as Vice City. Then in 2008 we had the Deboost which canceled out the boost! Actually, Samus didn't seem to be affected much by either, which makes sense as she probably draws the most support from outside the Nintendo fanbase of any of the big Ninty characters. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:37:51 AM | message detail |
How about we call it an RPG in a FPS setting? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:39:35 AM | message detail |
Going
by Souls logic, any rpg thats not turned bvased isn't an rpg. Like
Oblivion is an action game, not an rpg since you fight in real time. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:39:37 AM | message detail |
Ok, I'm not going to continue this since it will go nowhere. Anyways, you guys are underestimating VC. Many people started off with that game and will look back on it more favorably then other GTA games. I can see it beating MP for second. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
Smurf Alt | Posted 4/27/2009 9:42:24 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #126 I think despite this San Andreas will be the biggest disappointment in the GTA family this contest. It was flavour of the month for a while when we last saw it in action but I think in long term standings Vice City is held in higher regard among fans. GTA III not far behind. It's no coincidence Tommy made it into the 2008 CB while CJ did not. --- (\__/) Meet Ziggy,the Evil Bunny who wants to take over the world and eat the flesh of the weak. (='.'=] Put Ziggy in your sig to support his cause. |
Big Bob | Posted 4/27/2009 9:42:50 AM | message detail |
Tomorrow's gonna be an exciting day. The first match of the contest where any entrant can place in possibly any order. --- Want to help out a cult classic doomed to failure in this contest? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49181355 |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:43:54 AM | message detail |
Even
though I have KH for first why is the support for that game so high?
Esspecially after what happened to Starcraft who barely had much of a
rally against KH. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
creativename | Posted 4/27/2009 9:44:35 AM | message detail |
The
gap gets much wider when you consider that, and look at what happened
to that half of division 128 this year: Starcraft did badly, Soul
Calibur collapsed, Half-Life got destroyed. These things have more to do with the site's changing tastes than anything regarding the division. You really shouldn't be paying much attention to the old ass stats. It's not like Half-Life etc. would've sucked like this back then against different competition, which is what you're saying if you think they were overrated stats-wise. Also, what is the reasoning for SA being the strongest GTA over VC? It seems to me VC was the game that came out at the very top of the GTA series' popularity generally. There's no way in hell VC could hang with SA nowadays. SA was more well liked and importantly, is newer and far more relevant today. And it's not like SA will be a beacon of strength either. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:45:08 AM | message detail |
Tomorrow's gonna be an exciting day. The first match of the contest where any entrant can place in possibly any order. I don't see Paper Mario placing over Metroid Prime, though after Super Mario Kart I guess it is possible. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/27/2009 9:45:33 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #143 Alot of people think it has boosted alot since 2004... I'm not sure though, even if it did, it BARELY beat Soul calibur which got like 16% in that poll 2 days ago --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
creativename | Posted 4/27/2009 9:46:15 AM | message detail |
Esspecially after what happened to Starcraft who barely had much of a rally against KH. Once again...2K4. Throw it out. KH should do well for similar reasons that we thought FFX was going to do well. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:46:53 AM | message detail |
Sora's
looked a lot better since then...but you could say the same thing about
the illustrious Dr. Freeman and that didn't work out so well for the
first Half-Life. We shall see. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/27/2009 9:47:27 AM | message detail |
Alot
of people think it has boosted alot since 2004... I'm not sure though,
even if it did, it BARELY beat Soul calibur which got like 16% in that
poll 2 days ago I agree considering 2004 Sora was just 4 months after Kingdom Hearts' match and 2006 Sora was because of Kingdom Hearts II which does not cause the first one to have a boost in strength. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFX > MGS2 Points: 57/80 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 4/27/2009 9:47:32 AM | message detail |
I don't see Paper Mario placing over Metroid Prime, though after Super Mario Kart I guess it is possible. Mario Kart (series) would crush Paper Mario series big time. Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are the two biggest spinoff series on this site, and anyone who didn't think SMK would be strong was fooling themselves. MK64 > SMK, but it's not by much. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
