GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 691
| creativename | Posted 4/26/2009 8:29:01 AM | message detail |
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Metroid Prime and Kingdom Hearts are so screwed looking at the past two matches. I don't know if you're talking about related to the last contest or what, but relationships from the last contest are worthless, which we've known pretty much from before the contest. Vice City > Paper Mario. It's favored to do this certainly, but Vice City has probably fallen off terribly since last contest. I wouldn't be too surprised if Paper Mario placed real close to or above VC. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| creativename | Posted 4/26/2009 8:29:56 AM | message detail |
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Oh wait, were you just joking and saying VC/PM would be the 1/2 result? Nevermind then. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 8:31:01 AM | message detail |
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I don't think VC advancing is that much of a joke. I got KH > VC <.< --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/26/2009 8:32:37 AM | message detail |
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^Same here, I don't have much faith in Metroid Prime. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Half-Life Points: 55/76 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 8:49:17 AM | message detail |
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Relationships from the last contest aren't *entirely* worthless. We did see the Goldeneye/SotN/PD trio fail together. I think Super Metroid nearly being upended by SMK and this match definitely puts Prime on notice. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/26/2009 8:58:38 AM | message detail |
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Half-Life is currently doing a fair bit worse on an LFF"d FFIX than it
did on Metroid Prime back in 2004. As said a few topics ago: Bold
Prediction: Metroid Prime takes last tomorrow. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/26/2009 9:30:17 AM | message detail |
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I'm not putting anything into Paper Mario. I'd be absolutely shocked if Metroid Prime lost to it. --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/26/2009 9:35:43 AM | message detail |
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Red Sox: How are you so sure Chrono Cross is LFF'ing FFIX? Yesterday, Xenogears absolutely failed to LFF FFVIII (unless you think that FFVIII could have scored 45% had Xeno not been present), and LFF has failed throughout the contest up until now (that, or the games have been so weak they haven't been able to capitalize on it). Why should it work against FFIX, of all things? |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/26/2009 9:39:40 AM | message detail |
| Nice performance from FF9 here today. FF12 >
HL2 looks a little bit better after this (and I'll actually get full
points for that!). And there's no reason to doubt Prime that much. I've always through it was at least equal to SM, most likely stronger. It should at least take second tomorrow. I see VC laying an egg sooner than I see MP doing it. --- Moltar Status: ahh, there you are Match 20 - Bracket: OoT > HL - Vote: OoT (56/76) |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/26/2009 9:50:56 AM | message detail |
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I don't think it's anything huge, just a couple of percent. There's
really no way to tell if it is happening or not here as we've never
seen CC or FFIX in a contest before. The existence of overlap itself is
obvious. As for yesterday, Xenogears probably was holding FFVIII back a
bit, but when you get SFF'd nearly as badly as FFVII did to you, you
won't be holding back the game doing the SFFing very much. Actually, it's a theory of mine that the reason we did not observe much LFF among the older games (and this might extend to newer games too, though I'd expect less so) is that all the games had tons of overlap with each other, so the games we might expect to LFF each other really only overlapped a little more than with the other games in the match. I'd expect this to be the case for any of the really strong games or characters- OOT probably overlaps with FFIX enough that the FFIX/CC overlap is not that much larger. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/26/2009 10:26:01 AM | message detail |
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Relationships from the last contest aren't *entirely* worthless. We did see the Goldeneye/SotN/PD trio fail together. GoldenEye was below SMRPG on the x-stats and Castlevania did about expected. The only one that failed was Perfect Dark. People overestimated the list, it's the ultimate hardcore poll. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Half-Life Points: 55/76 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/26/2009 10:33:09 AM | message detail |
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Yesterday, Xenogears absolutely failed to LFF FFVIII (unless you
think that FFVIII could have scored 45% had Xeno not been present) It's definitely possible that FFVIII could've done that well. We're seeing LFF (even the original Metroid only performed as its SFF'd self was supposed to), it's just that the other games are weak enough that they can't capitalize on it. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| voltch | Posted 4/26/2009 10:33:32 AM | message detail |
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ya know i think more people are likely to associate Chross with square
than Xeno,i mean did you see that UK performance from Xenogears? now the uk may represent only 7k votes,but how many matches have been decided by less than that kind of margin? --- Pearl FC:2450 0974 5734 *shakes fist* |
| transience | Posted 4/26/2009 10:46:52 AM | message detail |
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OOT seems like the one huge fave that doesn't get anti-voted in the opening minutes. I thought it'd be much higher by now. --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 10:54:52 AM | message detail |
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From: transience | #214 Its going up like crazy now but man did it die at night. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/26/2009 11:06:57 AM | message detail |
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Well considering it was up against three night vote games it did a good job staying above 50% So Silent Hill 2 or Morrowind? I'm going with Silent Hill 2 since Morrowind is a PC game. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Half-Life Points: 55/76 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/26/2009 11:07:24 AM | message detail |
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Five minutes in it was at 51.6% and it should probably end up a bit
lower than 54%. That's less of a jump than LttP (though LttP's second
place match was closer) and more (in absolute terms) than Mario 3. Oddly, even with Ocarina having a relatively strong board vote (for an easy favourite), FFIX is the only Final Fantasy that's had a good board vote so far. It's going to be the only one who's five minute percentage is better than its ending percentage; FFT was close but didn't quite make it, and FFIV was the only other roman numeral FF that was even in the same ballpark. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/26/2009 11:08:07 AM | message detail |
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Morrowind was on the xobox too. --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 11:08:30 AM | message detail |
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From: charmander6000 | #216 Morrowind, easily. Elder Scrolls didn't do that bad in the series contest. And Morrowind isn't only a PC game btw; it sold better on console then PC --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| transience | Posted 4/26/2009 11:10:12 AM | message detail |
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I wonder if FF9 can top FF8 in the board vote. --- yzzyx |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/26/2009 11:22:07 AM | message detail |
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wth is this the church vote helping OoT or what. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: OoT > HL - Points: 53/76 Vote: OoT |
| voltch | Posted 4/26/2009 11:24:31 AM | message detail |
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OOT and FFVII are showing some serious title credentials here,they've
laid down the challenge and it really ought to be a cool final if Lttp
and FFX make it so as to create equal LFF. --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 11:24:44 AM | message detail |
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I'd be surprised if FF9 didn't top FF8 with the board vote, but people around here do love their brackets a little too much. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/26/2009 11:29:06 AM | message detail |
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StarCraft is the overwhelming bracket favourite over FFVIII, and brackets are going to be dead by then anyway. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| MetricTrout | Posted 4/26/2009 11:55:41 AM | message detail |
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This match is projected to draw a projected 134264 votes based on Goldeneye's match. Compared with 135899 for SMW's match and 127311 for FF7's match. Is there any reasonable explanation for SMW's match drawing many votes? The games in that match do not appear to be particularly strong, at least compared to the games in this match. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| HotSkitty | Posted 4/26/2009 12:24:15 PM | message detail |
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Super Mario World's match had Battletoads being rallied. Plus, it had both Square and Nintendo in the match. --- Never gonna give you up. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/26/2009 12:24:23 PM | message detail |
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From: RPGuy96 | #224 You know, I have FF8 advancing in R2 because I figured HL would hurt SC enough to allow FF8 through. Good to see such flawed logic cancel out the 4 points I lost from these last 2 matches! --- Moltar Status: ahh, there you are Match 20 - Bracket: OoT > HL - Vote: OoT (56/76) |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/26/2009 12:27:52 PM | message detail |
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Hm. Mario Kart 64 got 29.98% on FFVII. Star Fox 64 got 20.86% on FFVII. FFIX has 29.38% on Ocarina (and falling) Half-Life has 22.21% on Ocarina (and falling) Kinda nice how those work out. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/26/2009 12:31:12 PM | message detail |
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This is all Half-Life failing IMO, expect WW to be crushed by Melee and Metroid Prime and Kingdom Hearts to lose to Vice City. The entire 128 Division is overrated, but Vice City has fallen too far for that to happen. And if ANY game has reason to be stronger than what it showed back then, it's Kingdom Hearts. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 12:33:37 PM | message detail |
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KH will get first no question imho. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/26/2009 12:35:15 PM | message detail |
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I think Kingdom Hearts 2 would do much better than 1 in a contest setting. I mean, compare Sora 2003 to Sora 2006. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/26/2009 12:37:21 PM | message detail |
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Assuming HL2 60-40s HL, then it would be winning here. FFXII watch out Yeah, but would you honestly take HL2 over FFIX after seeing this? 'Cause I wouldn't. I've always felt pretty good about FFXII > HL2, and this result doesn't do anything to hurt that. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/26/2009 12:43:20 PM | message detail |
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I think Kingdom Hearts 2 would do much better than 1 in a contest setting. Remember that FFXII owned KHII in the PS2 2006 GOTY poll. And I'm not sure how I feel about FFVIII's chances next round. FFIX's performance here basically tells me that FFVIII is stronger than it, but I don't know by how much. I don't know how bad the split will be, and StarCraft can still capitalize on it. I'm going to be uneasy until that match next round. I'd honestly give FFVIII and SC each about a 50/50 shot there. I don't think I'd call either one the favorite. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/26/2009 12:46:57 PM | message detail |
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Yesterday's chart: Time | FFVIII | S. Calibur | StarCraft | Xenogears | Demographic EBV | 39.68% | 16.25% | 31.39% | 12.67% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 39.76% | 14.67% | 31.73% | 13.84% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 42.84% | 14.11% | 29.21% | 13.84% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 47.56% | 16.34% | 24.40% | 11.69% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 44.80% | 16.48% | 26.69% | 12.03% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 43.84% | 15.33% | 28.17% | 12.67% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 43.92% | 14.53% | 27.77% | 13.78% | (22:00-24:00) That's one heck of an early morning vote for FFVIII. Like with FFVII, the Board Vote and Power Hour are unkind to. Pretty consistent all around except for that beastly early morning vote. StarCraft does its best work with the board vote and night vote, and it really took a hard hit early in the morning when FFVIII was rolling. Soul Calibur apparently has a strong board vote because it dropped off big time at the end of the Power Hour. Seems to be more of a day vote game. Xenogears does its best work at night, as expected but doesn't do too horribly during the day either. Yesterday's stats: Final Fantasy VIII – 50.00% StarCraft – 38.85% SoulCalibur – 25.97% Xenogears – 22.57% --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/26/2009 1:04:55 PM | message detail |
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Those are almost FF7-numbers that FF8 put up...damn you Starcraft for all your inconsistencies! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 1:09:58 PM | message detail |
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FFVIII vs. FFX who you got --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/26/2009 1:13:16 PM | message detail |
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I have FFX and FFVIII in the Sweet 16 in my bracket with FFX advancing
to the Elite 8. After watching FFVIII put forth a good performance, FFX
needs to show it has not dropped an inch since 2004 to stand a chance. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/26/2009 1:32:52 PM | message detail |
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Another division down... FACT or FICTION: Starcraft is the strongest Blizzard game in the bracket. FACT or FICTION: Pokemon R/B/Y, MGS, and FF8 are each legitimate top-ten games. FACT or FICTION: FF12 > HL2. FACT or FICTION: SSBM > LoZ:WW will be closer than R/B/Y > LoZ:MM. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/26/2009 1:39:02 PM | message detail |
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FACT or FICTION: Starcraft is the strongest Blizzard game in the bracket. FACT. "Uh-oh" FACT or FICTION: Pokemon R/B/Y, MGS, and FF8 are each legitimate top-ten games. FICTION. I'd like to see at least one more round from each before I believe this. FACT or FICTION: FF12 > HL2. FACT, and sadly at that. Today's performance doesn't inspire me with much confidence, especially since FFXII won't be as handicapped as IX is today. FACT or FICTION: SSBM > LoZ:WW will be closer than R/B/Y > LoZ:MM. FACT. 64% on Wind Waker seems like too tall an order. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/26/2009 1:48:11 PM | message detail |
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FACT or FICTION: Starcraft is the strongest Blizzard game in the bracket. Fiction...possibly. We'll have to see WoW, and maybe (maaaaaybe) Diablo will be slightly stronger. FACT or FICTION: Pokemon R/B/Y, MGS, and FF8 are each legitimate top-ten games. Fact, 'cept maybe for MSG. R/B/Y is brutal, FF8 will dominate as long as it doesn't come across a strong FF game (Seriously, Squall ALWAYS jobs against other FF characters, and even though games are different from characters, they can't be so different. Even though I love Squall and FF8, I can't see them getting past R3), and MGS...seems weaker than I thought, but maybe it'll impress later on. FACT or FICTION: FF12 > HL2. Fiction. HL2 is stronger then HL here, and noticeably so, while FFXII is...well, hardcore fans probably rank it just above Mystic Quest. It'll only have franchise voting going for it, but a watered down version of franchise voting. FACT or FICTION: SSBM > LoZ:WW will be closer than R/B/Y > LoZ:MM. Fact. SSBM never wins impressively, from what we know last contest. I doubt Brawl has given it such a popularity boost that it'll be able to smash a mid-tier Zelda game. |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/26/2009 1:53:29 PM | message detail |
| WTF is wrong with Half Life??? Last time in 2004
it wasn't this weak... It has flopped almost as badly as Perfect Dark,
Earthbound and Final Fantasy Tactics... FFT back then in 2004 was
almost as strong as MGS. My Pre-Tournament Analysis was FF7>>FF6>FF10>FF8>FFT>FF9>FF12>FF4>FFI No I'd have to day FF7>>FF10=>FF8=>FF6>>FF1>FF9>FF4>FF12>FFT Tactics has disappointed me greatly... so has FF6 Whereas FF8, FF1 and FF4 has impressed me greatly... I don't need to talk about 7 10 on the other hand could be a monster... 12 can fall flat for all i care |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/26/2009 1:56:46 PM | message detail |
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I told you guys the picture needed some Gordon love. Symbols my patootie. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| transience | Posted 4/26/2009 1:59:17 PM | message detail |
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Gordon Freeman pushes it over OOT --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/26/2009 2:01:13 PM | message detail |
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FACT or FICTION: Starcraft is the strongest Blizzard game in the bracket. Fiction, I think WoW is going to be the strongest Blizzard game in this bracket. FACT or FICTION: Pokemon R/B/Y, MGS, and FF8 are each legitimate top-ten games. Fiction to the complete statement. FF8, no, there are a couple FF games I would put above it (including FF9, but that's personal preference). MGS, yes, it helped pave the way for more cinematic game design more than anything. Pokemon R/B/Y, yes, it's a classic few hate. FACT or FICTION: FF12 > HL2. Fact, if FF9 can beat HL1 by this margin I can see FF12 doing the same to HL2. FACT or FICTION: SSBM > LoZ:WW will be closer than R/B/Y > LoZ:MM. Fact, MM has tanked in this contest because it is a cultish niche Zelda game while WW is not. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/26/2009 2:02:23 PM | message detail |
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I don't know. I fully expect FFXII to be the Yoshi's Island of FF
games. That could still beat HL2, but I'll say HL2 has the advantage
for now. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 2:07:29 PM | message detail |
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I expect Starcraft to be the WEAKEST blizzard game in the bracket. At least Diablo and WoW are relevant now. Starcraft has kinda been forgotten by all but the most hardened Blizz fans by now. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/26/2009 2:09:51 PM | message detail |
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Plus theres tons of Diablo 3 hype. Theres like no Starcraft 2 hype.
That alone should tell you Starcraft isn't what it used to be. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| LordLockeRA | Posted 4/26/2009 2:11:24 PM | message detail |
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FACT or FICTION: Starcraft is the strongest Blizzard game in the bracket. FICTION: Starcraft probably was the strongest Blizzard game in 2k4. I'd guess World of Warcraft and possibly even D2: LoD are stronger then it now. The only way SC is going to boost above either of them is if Blizzard stops screwing around and gives us a release date and a demo. FACT or FICTION: Pokemon R/B/Y, MGS, and FF8 are each legitimate top-ten games. FICTION: Having all three somehow squeeze into the top 10 seems far-fetched when I'm not sure yet either MGS or FF8 can handle stronger opponents (Both took on collapsing veterans that make it hard to get a real read on either of them If Starcraft is anywhere near legit, though, FFVIII is going to be a monster.). R/B/Y is likely going to be a wrecking ball on a lot of people's brackets if it can survive Round 2, but that's almost entirely going to be based on 1) How many Pokemon fans throw their vote to G/S instead and 2) How much Nintendo anti-voting goes Metal Gear Solid's way. The less votes the Nintendo games get, the worse RBY is going to fare, because I see Pokemon bleeding away more votes then Majora's Mask does as non-hardcore Nintendo fans jump ship. FACT or FICTION: FF12 > HL2. FACT, probably: Don't go against franchise votes unless you got some serious strength behind who you're siding with, and HL2 doesn't have that kind of strength. FACT or FICTION: SSBM > LoZ:WW will be closer than R/B/Y > LoZ:MM. FACT: SSBM is very likely to be weaker then RBY, and WW is definitely stronger then MM. I'm not sure I'd call it an actual match, yet, but SSBM isn't going to come even close to blowing out Wind Waker the way Pokemon destroyed Majora's Mask without some kind of help that it isn't getting in that matchup. --- Meeh. Whatever. |
| Mumei | Posted 4/26/2009 2:13:47 PM | message detail |
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Plus theres tons of Diablo 3 hype. Theres like no Starcraft 2 hype.
That alone should tell you Starcraft isn't what it used to be. Er... what? I wouldn't say that there's a lot of SCII hype right now, but I don't see a lot for Diablo III, either - and I don't really expect to see much until the betas start. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/26/2009 2:14:56 PM | message detail |
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I'd say FFXII and HL2 is still up in the air. The last time we saw FFXII (in both a favorite poll and a game of the year poll), it got 30% against Zelda, and couldn't even beat FFIX in a favorites poll comfortably.. and keep in mind that this is around release time. This also makes me feel terrible about KH2 > Gears of War (though I'd still stick with KH2 I guess). HL2 was in 2004, which was once again, a pretty good year for PC games in general, but Gordon still shot up from that game. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: OoT > HL - Points: 53/76 Vote: OoT |
