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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 690

red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:48:28 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent comparisons? I'm not making any of those as long as I still believe Starcraft has a chance, however small it is!
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transience | Posted 4/24/2009 9:49:41 PM | message detail
pfft, what good are you if you're not giving me realtime Crono/Vincent updates?
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ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 9:51:06 PM | message detail
Need to see a lot more before deciding what happens in round 2 on, but FFVIII's done a good enough job here to be in the running to get out of the division. Think I'd still like it to get out of round 2 even if FFIX's there, but we'll have to see what happens tomorrow.

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Gaddswell | Posted 4/24/2009 9:51:31 PM | message detail
Whoa, either Starcraft's flopping or FF8 is a BEAST!
It's probably the former.
Things are looking up for RBY escaping the division!
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transience | Posted 4/24/2009 9:52:23 PM | message detail
yeah, FF8/FF9/Starcraft's a good match, with OOT's domination being the wild card. after that, FF8's good until it hits FF10.

but I think I'd take MGS over FF8, and if both are there I lean towards RBY.
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transience | Posted 4/24/2009 9:53:15 PM | message detail
after that, we're looking at a likely OOT/RBY/SSBM/FF10 match which would likely be a FF10 cakewalk. assuming all this happens, of course.
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ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 9:54:21 PM | message detail
FFX for first book it

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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 9:56:31 PM | message detail
I'll believe RBY stands up to OoT when I see it. This isn't some random Nintendo game - it's *the* holy grail of all Nintendo games. It's not like you can really predict what happens there to any appreciable degree, but I just can't bring myself to believe RBY doesn't get disproportionately hurt at ALL there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:59:02 PM | message detail
Metal Gear Solid got 53.3% on Gold/Silver.
Final Fantasy VIII has 55.7% on StarCraft.

So, Gold/Silver or StarCraft?

Or, hell, throw these in too, since they're similar:

Super Mario World got 55.5% on Final Fantasy.
Final Fantasy VI got 56% on Link's Awakening.
GoldenEye got 53.1% on Super Mario RPG.

If you rank the games on the right, you more or less rank the games on the left!
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transience | Posted 4/24/2009 10:09:21 PM | message detail
I understand the RBY skepticism in regards to OOT. but pick any match involving Pokemon and find me one that's unfavourable in an SFF situation. not the strongest evidence, but when MGS struggles with second-tier Pokemon I've gotta give RBY the edge heads-up, meaning MGS has to rely on big SFF *and* avoid FF8.

I guess this leaves FF8, if it is stronger than MGS, as the 'savior' of the Pokecraze.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 10:10:08 PM | message detail
More like ruiner.

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ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 10:12:29 PM | message detail
save_us.squall

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 10:13:43 PM | message detail
...Whatever.

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medicority | Posted 4/24/2009 10:15:11 PM | message detail
I wonder if wow is going bring up the vote count by a lot. I'll probably vote for it just to see what kind of upheaval it can cause.
therealmnm | Posted 4/24/2009 10:18:18 PM | message detail
Wait... so this result is surprising in this topic?
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hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 10:21:08 PM | message detail
Well, I was not expecting FFVIII to be so powerful. Though if Squall = Auron, it makes sense FFVIII = FFX. SC can still pull through next round but only if FFIX wins. Even then, SC could still, in theory, lose because it's doing poorly here. ffmasterjose, you may give me my sig. I was decimating people left and right in sig bets and lost sight of myself.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 10:22:23 PM | message detail
hochi is so gracious I say he should be allowed to pick his new sig who's with me
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KingBartz | Posted 4/24/2009 10:22:51 PM | message detail
Great, now I'm imagining Albion furiously clicking Create New Topic as fast as possible on as many forums as he can. Possibly with the Rocky theme playing in the background.

That would make a great montage.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 10:23:27 PM | message detail
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masseffect90 | Posted 4/24/2009 10:24:29 PM | message detail
Hochi, your grammar is as bad as your predicting skills. I'm pretty sure you've never "decimated" anyone here, unless you literally selected people here by lot, and killed every tenth one.
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 10:24:37 PM | message detail
No one can surpass Lord Hochi. Don't be silly, KH.

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Tarrot | Posted 4/24/2009 10:28:33 PM | message detail
Eh, I'm still taking Starcraft to the Division.

Logically, the next round should be OoT, CC, FFVIII, and SC. OoT will win easily there, I'm thinking 40%+ of the vote. FFVIII vs. CC, I'd wager FFVIII 55-45 based on the name, but it would be close. Here, both are going to be splitting votes with each other, and I'm not sure if they will have enough votes to match the vote total of OoT.

Pretty much, all Starcraft has to do is get about 23-25% of the votes next round, as a PC RTS with a hardcore fanbase vs. 2 RPGs and a Zelda game all on console systems. I don't think that's entirely unreasonable. Then its just a matter of if it can ride the L-Block Factor (which ought to be the Starcraft factor since it did it first) to sneaking by each round against solid competition.

I will say this though: Starcraft most likely in 04 would've went 50/50 with Soul Calibur, or around those parts. With more Soul Calibur games out, and a theoretical expansion of the series name, Starcraft is more than doubling it right now. I think the results point to FFVIII being much stronger than anticipated over SC having its bottom fall out from underneath it.
hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 10:29:36 PM | message detail
Hochi, your grammar is as bad as your predicting skills. I'm pretty sure you've never "decimated" anyone here, unless you literally selected people here by lot, and killed every tenth one.


Knave, you don't know just how good my predicting skills are. I won one hundred dollars in money two years ago. Who are you? Nobody can answer that. You walk the path of obscurity. I, on the other hand, walk the path of divinity.

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masseffect90 | Posted 4/24/2009 10:30:41 PM | message detail
FF9 will beat CC.
hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 10:31:01 PM | message detail
Logically, the next round should be OoT, CC, FFVIII, and SC


Uh, no. CC gets dead last tomorrow. Probably doesn't even break 10%. The battle is between FFIX and HL.
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KingBartz | Posted 4/24/2009 10:31:44 PM | message detail
lol at CC making it out of that 4pak
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 10:32:00 PM | message detail
A hundred dollars in money I can't believe that knave dared to insult grammatical flourishes like that
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 10:36:02 PM | message detail
Xenogears hurts FF8 more than FF9 does I think. I have Starcraft taking second next round however, because I believe that OoT is going to hurt FF8. With how well FF8 is doing right now though, I'm not sure if a combination of OoT and FF9 (If it even gets through Half-Life) would stop it.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 4/24/2009 10:37:25 PM | message detail
FFVIII is going on a tear now, and during Starcraft's best hours from 2k4. Big difference between a FF game and Halo/KH/WW/SSBM though, so it might actually end up doing slightly better during the day.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 10:37:28 PM | message detail
Xenogears hurts FF8 more than FF9 does I think.

Care to back this up?

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hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 10:37:48 PM | message detail
CC: 10%
FFIX: 20%
HL: 20%
OoT: 50%

That is my prediction for tomorrow. I expect HL and FFIX to be epic. OoT needs 50%. Anything under and OoT has disappointed. Anything over and I still don't care because Zelda is just awful in general.
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 10:38:38 PM | message detail
It's just a hunch with no data to back it up. Everything we've seen from FF9 has been awful, outside of Vivi. We'll see how it does next round.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/24/2009 10:40:30 PM | message detail
We've only seen Zidane and Vivi, and I still can' accurately explain Vivi.
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LordLockeRA | Posted 4/24/2009 10:41:20 PM | message detail
In 2k4 people still cared about Soul Calibur. Nobody else was putting out any decent fighting games (what about Virtua Fighter?) that the mainstream gamer gave a damn about. (Oh...) Soul Calibur 2 was pretty much the alpha and the omega of modern mainstream fighting games then.

It's 2k9 now, baby. SC4 hit and... yeah. Nobody cared, because STHD came out not too much later and beat what following it had off the XBL/PSN play charts with one grand Shinkuu Hadoken. And then there's this little game called Street Fighter 4. We have a handful of other fighters that have either come out or are coming out that are actually worth sitting up and taking notice of, both for the hardcore and the mainstream gamer. 2k4 was a drought for fighting games, and 2k8/2k9 is pretty much the start of a flood warning.

You'd think this being the Best GAME contest people would wake up and remember what Soul Calibur 1 was back then, and heck, how good the game still is now (Even not having a Dreamcast is no excuse- it's on XBLA now!) and it'd get some rep here. But as Mario/Zelda/Final Fantasy have gone and shown us, franchise voting's in full effect and Soul Calibur just can't match up with the big boys, one of which is currently in the process of a mighty blowout on it.

(Plus Soul Calibur 3 hit the series cred hard. I'm a die-hard SC fan and I have a hard time giving the series universal praise anymore since that'd be lumping in that turkey of a game with the rest of 'em.)


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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 10:41:36 PM | message detail
OoT - 58% (I almost want to go higher)
HL - 18%
Chrono Cross - 12%
FF9 - 10%

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redrocket | Posted 4/24/2009 10:41:50 PM | message detail
Hochi, your grammar is as bad as your predicting skills. I'm pretty sure you've never "decimated" anyone here, unless you literally selected people here by lot, and killed every tenth one.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/decimate

dec⋅i⋅mate

1. to destroy a great number or proportion of: The population was decimated by a plague.
2. to select by lot and kill every tenth person of.
3. Obsolete. to take a tenth of or from.

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ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 10:42:50 PM | message detail
Part of Vivi's strength comes from his appeal and design. Black Mages are about as Final Fantasy as Chocobos and Moogles.

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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/24/2009 10:50:48 PM | message detail
Xenogears hurts FF8 more than FF9 does I think

...seriously?

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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/24/2009 10:51:23 PM | message detail
What are you guys pegging OoT's % for tomorrow?

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/24/2009 10:52:50 PM | message detail
9001%.

Give or take.
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 10:53:21 PM | message detail
I think there's more love for Xenogears than there is for FF9. Xenogears is just more cult. I think people that have actually played Xenogears, will vote for it over almost anything. Whereas FF9 gets name recognition but still manages to do poorly, and will likely be decimated by games like 8, 6, 7 and X.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 10:53:28 PM | message detail
Cut!!!

Starcraft cuts 3 votes off the lead, just when it looked like FFVIII was pulling away with this night vote.
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LordLockeRA | Posted 4/24/2009 10:55:17 PM | message detail
51%-55% should be pretty good with a Final Fantasy and Half-Life in the mix. I get the feeling HL1's gonna get squished between the franchise votes though, and if HL goes weaker then I'm thinking it'll mostly be in OoT's favor (The strongest Zelda game vs one of the weakest FFs) If HL completely crumbles OoT could possibly shoot as high as 60%
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/24/2009 10:57:24 PM | message detail
uh.. 60% is just reaching now. The only weak game in its fourpack is Chrono Cross; the rest are at least decent enough to come close to 20%. Let's not get carried away as FF7 couldn't even break 60% against games most likely weaker (or as weak).
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 10:59:08 PM | message detail
OOT will be lucky to break 50%. FFIX/Half-Life/Chrono Cross is much sterner competition than Mario Kart 64/Starfox 64/Suikoden.
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 10:59:40 PM | message detail
Mario Kart and Star Fox would beat any of the games in OoT's match in a 1vs1. I'd really love to see FF9 in a 1vs1 match with a game like that. I think that's where it would shine most.
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LordLockeRA | Posted 4/24/2009 10:59:50 PM | message detail
60% is only if HL1 completely folds, which I'm not ruling out quite yet. If HL shows any signs of strength I think OoT's going to be restricted to the low 50%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 11:00:39 PM | message detail
You'd take Mario Kart 64 over FFIX?

Would you take it over FF1?
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 11:03:00 PM | message detail
Half Life is getting somewhere between 15-20%. If it gets less, I'll be surprised.

And would I take which over FF1? I'd take Mario Kart without a thought and FF9 should beat it as well. Lets wait until the next match to see what happens.
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The Real Truth | Posted 4/24/2009 11:03:42 PM | message detail
Yeah I guess you asked a simple question. I'm a little tired.
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