GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 690
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/24/2009 8:59:34 PM | message detail |
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Who takes the role of zero? ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Lunar 2, Devil May Cry 3 |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/24/2009 9:19:23 PM | message detail |
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tag --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| transience | Posted 4/24/2009 9:26:25 PM | message detail |
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'kay, time for the daily top 10-20 argument Final Fantasy VIII Metal Gear Solid Pokemon RBY Mario 64 Final Fantasy VI Mario 1 Zelda 1 --- yzzyx |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:28:57 PM | message detail |
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My classiest 500 post yet. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 9:29:07 PM | message detail |
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GSC is Top 20 for sure. FF8 is probably Top 10. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:02 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon RBY Final Fantasy VIII Metal Gear Solid Super Mario 64 Final Fantasy VI Zelda 1 Mario 1 Or something like this, probably. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:09 PM | message detail |
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From yesterday: Mumei5 (5:48:35 PM): Including Tactics, what do you think the hierarchy of FF games is? yoblazer33 (5:49:57 PM): 7 > 10 > 8 > 6 > 9 > Tactics > 12/4/1 > the rest Hey, if you move Tactics a smidgen to the right, it doesn't look so bad! --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Sonic_Factor | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:17 PM | message detail |
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starcraft going up ! --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:31 PM | message detail |
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I'm not ready to call any of them Top 10 until I see all of them in
action in Round 2 at least. Though FF8, MGS, and RBY are looking fine
right now and should be Top 20. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:37 PM | message detail |
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Squall has had some pretty bad draws in the past (2002 of course, but
he probably beats Sonic twice in 2k8 if Sora/Snake don't muck it up for
him, and then of course there's the times he's had to run into Cloud).
I can't imagine many people here would take Sonic > Squall right
now, though, and MM and Crono certainly aren't safe in the slightest. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:39 PM | message detail |
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Bringing this back from the previous thread... I'd rather we beg Bacon to give Squall a shot at Mega Man or something. For those who don't believe Squall could pull it off, ask yourselves, wouldn't you peg Squall at Vincent or Auron's level? If so, he has a very, very good shot at beating Mega Man or Sonic, right? Consider that, in his match against Vincent, he was juuuust barely edged out. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:49 PM | message detail |
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in before jumping the gun --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:55 PM | message detail |
| Right now, I'd go RBY > FFVIII > MGS >
Mario 64 in terms of newcomers. Makin' a comparison at the moment but
it kinda sucks because the old games only have ridiculous blowouts to
their credit. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/24/2009 9:31:22 PM | message detail |
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I think the ralliers have gotten into full gear now. Only a 10 vote gain for FF8. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:31:53 PM | message detail |
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Squall would wipe the floor with Mega Man. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 9:32:05 PM | message detail |
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And, hey, a StarCraft stall. Semi-respectability here we come maybe possibly --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 9:32:17 PM | message detail |
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Ralliers more like FFVIII dropping off for an update! Time for a rebound next update. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:32:22 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, I think Turtle has a decent point, though probably not for
the reason he intended. The fact that VIII is so very different than
your traditional FF game (leveling is a bad idea, no MP, stocking
spells, the Junction system in general) is what makes me think if IX
should advance tomorrow it'll hurt VIII way more in the next round than
most people here seem to think. The playrate on IX is definitely lower,
but it's a far more traditional and accessible RPG than VIII and that
fact should pull a bunch of votes its way. I don't know if it'll be
enough for VIII to place third (though it is what I have bracketed),
but it won't be a 80/20 affair by any means. That's not my point at all. The people who would vote for 8 are the people who would vote for 7 whereas the people that would vote for 9 are more than likely people who were with the series before 7, and were butthurt by the huge leaps forward 7 and 8 took and embraced the huge step backward that was 9. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:33:28 PM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #018 That's so cute. :3 --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:34:00 PM | message detail |
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I've always said Squall > Vincent > Auron since 2006. Kingdom
Hearts 2 is what gives me the cofidence to take Squall > Vincent if
they ever rematch. Vincent got lucky in 2005 with Advent Children. That said, I think Mega Man is still a bit stronger than that, but I would definitely take all 3 of the near nobles over Sonic the Failhog. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/24/2009 9:34:47 PM | message detail |
| But it's actually true. FFIX WAS much closer to FF IV-VI than the other two games. In fact, it was intended to be a throwback. B_T is wrong with his reasoning, but his conclusion is sound. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:34:58 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Guybrush Threepwood over Sonic the Hedgehog. :D --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:35:39 PM | message detail |
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And I fully expect Kamikazi Failtato to chime in and say that FF9 was "a throwback" to the older games. Last I checked, the SNES Final Fantasies didn't feature poorly designed, 1-dimensional characters and a lame-as-all-hell plot (well, maybe 5, but at least 5 had great gameplay, something else 9 lacked). --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:35:49 PM | message detail |
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10 vote gain for an update? Sound the alarms! Oh, and looking at 2004, I think Starcraft actually had a decent day vote. Consider its opponents: Halo, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda, and Smash. With opponents like that anyone's day vote would look bad. And SC really didn't lose very much percentage with the day to any of them- Halo's vaunted ASV took it from a tiny lead to an 1100 vote lead- not much in 1v1 considering it's Halo. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:36:01 PM | message detail |
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If the Antichrist made it into the contest, I would also choose him over Sonic the Hedgehog. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:36:13 PM | message detail |
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If that Kanzaris guy is KP, lol --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 9:36:47 PM | message detail |
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SC makes it a little closer in the night, but I doubt the day is kind to its %. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| ZFS | Posted 4/24/2009 9:36:54 PM | message detail |
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that FF9 was "a throwback" to the older games. Uhh, it was. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:37:17 PM | message detail |
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don't fall for the trap HM --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:37:29 PM | message detail |
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From: ZFS | #028 Read the rest of the post. And stop saying SC. There's 2 SC games in this poll. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Meeks54 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:38:29 PM | message detail |
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1 OoT 2 FF VII 3 RBY 4 CT 5 ALttP 6 SMB 3 7 Melee 8 SM 64 9 TP 10 FF VIII. 11-14 who cares? Dog crap WoW LOL Starcraft My current ranking. Yeah, I think RBY would absolutely maul everything not named OoT or FF VII. I don't care if you beat Wand of Gamelon, if you crush Zelda by that much, you are ungodly. No one here believes CT could have done that to MM, right? --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:38:43 PM | message detail |
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Samuel L Jackson VS Solid Snake Who would win? --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 9:39:27 PM | message detail |
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And I fully expect Kamikazi Failtato to chime in and say that FF9 was "a throwback" to the older games. I've refrained from commenting on anything you've said this night (except to chime in and agree once), so I'd prefer if you kept your toddler-like insults to the games and wait for Harrich to come in and say whatever we're all thinking towards you. Thanks. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/24/2009 9:39:40 PM | message detail |
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Bad-ass Mother ****er vs Bad-ass Mother****er I'd like to see that --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 9:41:15 PM | message detail |
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MWC/BT Stats and Discussion time to bail out of here before Albion shows up --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:41:35 PM | message detail |
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From: KamikazePotato | #033 Eh, just because Turtle's opinions are wrong doesn't make him less awesome. He's hilarious because of his wrong opinions. <3 --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:41:51 PM | message detail |
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Starcraft's Path to Victory: FFVIII's lead at: 1 AM | 800 3 AM | 1200 6 AM | 1500 9 AM | 1600 3 PM | 2200 6 PM | 2200 8 PM | 2000 9 PM | 1600 10 PM | 1100 11 PM | 600 Final | -100 Let's do this --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 9:42:13 PM | message detail |
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Albion is too busy training. The effort may be fruitless today, but it
nonetheless will make him a more efficient machine on WoW Day. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:42:59 PM | message detail |
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #038 He's probably saving up his rallying power for Round 2, where it'll matter more. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 9:43:38 PM | message detail |
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Great, now I'm imagining Albion furiously clicking Create New Topic as
fast as possible on as many forums as he can. Possibly with the Rocky
theme playing in the background. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| Justin_Crossing | Posted 4/24/2009 9:44:26 PM | message detail |
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Albion's training today will AID him with WoW rallying. For WoW he's got a whole new trick up his sleeve. And I was impressed when he told me the plan. --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=954454&topic=49183723 Please sign this topic. Don't ask questions. Just do it. |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/24/2009 9:44:35 PM | message detail |
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I never once thought StarCraft had a chance to repeat 2004, times have changed. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:46:05 PM | message detail |
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And Ulti's new trolling gimmick didn't strike me until just now. It always takes me two-three days before I realize Ulti's trolling. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| transience | Posted 4/24/2009 9:46:06 PM | message detail |
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I think we need some Crono/Vincent comparisons here. --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:46:28 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and hey, we have another example of LFF not mattering. In fact,
even with FFVIII beating up StarCraft, Xenogears is fighting with Soul
Calibur. If I was going to apply anything in this match towards tomorrow's, that would be it, not this silly FF = instant win stuff (especially a day after Tactics). --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 9:46:36 PM | message detail |
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I don't think anyone will need to bother rallying if FFIX is there.
Throwback or not, the overlap between the two will be significant,
Ocarina probably hurts them a bit as well, and Starcraft stands out
like a swollen wang. It actually sucks if you think about it. Everyone who called FFVIII an absolute beast of a game (probably the third or perhaps even second strongest in the series) has been validated. This is the first time we see it without FFVII's massive shadow, it's kicking ass, and it may all amount to nothing due to crappy bracket placement. Sucks to be Squall yet again. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:46:50 PM | message detail |
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And I'm gonna mutilate myself for the night. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 9:47:47 PM | message detail |
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I'm gonna go the RBY route and say that the split simply won't be
enough for Starcraft to capitalize on. It's getting murdered here. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:47:48 PM | message detail |
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #046 This is the ray of sunshine in all of this. <3 Especially if RBY advances and FF8 doesn't. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/24/2009 9:48:09 PM | message detail |
| Yup, I think making Squall have terrible matches against monstrous noble niners is a running gag by now. Sort of like Snake/Knuckles on second round. |
