GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 689
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 1:25:39 AM | message detail |
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so will MGS2 and 3 be this strong. i already know that 4 will
dominate but MGS2 has FFX and silent hill and MGS3 has the Chief and
WoW. i dont see them coming through the prelims It's a safe bet to call the original MGS the strongest one in the series, but the other three should all be fine. MGS2 will coast to an easy second place win (it'll crush Silent Hill), and MGS3 is the big favorite to win its match. Halo 2 and WoW each have a greater chance of bombing than MGS3 does. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/24/2009 1:27:00 AM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #001 So it's customary to have some thinly veiled Ulti contest brag at the top of every topic now? --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/24/2009 1:44:25 AM | message detail |
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Wow, I thought Final Fantasy Tactics would take 2nd place easily, and I
was expecting another epic Metal Gear Solid vs. Final Fantasy Tactics
match here. Guess I was wrong. It's also ironic that FFT got into the
top 20 on GameFAQs' list, ahead of stuff like Super Mario World and
Super Metroid, but will go out in the first round here. Oh, and whatever happened to Deus Ex? It's barely breaking 8% here. Sure it doesn't have much of a fanbase on GameFAQs, but it was recently called, by Entertainment Weekly, the 23rd best game of all time. Why is it bombing so badly here? |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 1:50:07 AM | message detail |
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Unless it's made by Blizzard or Valve, you can expect a PC game to be very weak on this site. Just how it goes, I guess. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 1:52:25 AM | message detail |
| Deus Ex is a niche fanbase, low strength game in a
match with three legitimate powerhouses, none of which are below strong
midcarder status. It's doing about as expected. And it looks like MGS's lead on G/S just exceeded G/S's on FFT! Just a product of the night vote, sure, but heartening nonetheless for next round. Just gotta sparkle up some of that SSB magic in the daytime (yeah I said it believe). --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 4/24/2009 3:04:35 AM | message detail |
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Halo 2 and WoW each have a greater chance of bombing than MGS3 does. I think the absolutely massive rallying potential WoW has makes it very unlikely to bomb. Unless WoW players suddenly decide to be indifferent about the game, which I somehow doubt will happen --- "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.last.fm/user/dragoontheguy |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/24/2009 3:19:09 AM | message detail |
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RBY has a better chance of taking 1st next round than getting 3rd. RBY isn't just a little bit stronger than GSC, RBY is much stronger than GSC. In a fair fight it would be beating Metal Gear Solid here. And GSC isn't going to hold it down and stand out; it's far more likely that it gets blown away 70-30. MGS takes 1st due to standing out like nuts, but RBY has 2nd pretty much completely locked up. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/24/2009 3:30:40 AM | message detail |
| God I had Final Fantasy Tactics getting to round 3. |
| consolefreak | Posted 4/24/2009 3:30:42 AM | message detail |
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RBY has a better chance of taking 1st next round than getting 3rd. RBY finishing first would surprise me a lot more, to be honest. RBY isn't just a little bit stronger than GSC, RBY is much stronger than GSC. In a fair fight it would be beating Metal Gear Solid here. And GSC isn't going to hold it down and stand out; it's far more likely that it gets blown away 70-30. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2890 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2908 RBY/MM have a Ryu/Riku- esque situation going on here. MM is held back by 2 N64 games this round, RBY has its little brother next round. RBY still has to prove itself next round IMO. To clarify, I would be surprised if it didn't place, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it would beat MGS 1 on 1, and there's just no way it finishes first next round. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 4:00:13 AM | message detail |
| The jury's still out on RBY beating MGS (it could
easily be winning here in G/S's place, but this is some pretty big STF
- not exactly a fair fight, certainly not necessarily a 1v1). That's
not really going to matter this contest, of course, but using Ryu v
Riku is a bad example if I've ever seen one - Hayabusa WAS legitimately
much, much
stronger than Riku. He just seems to fall apart mysteriously at the
sight of Solid Snake. If anything, that's instructive on how the more
powerful entity isn't necessarily going to be the winning one due to
the surrounding competition, but that's all. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| consolefreak | Posted 4/24/2009 4:14:14 AM | message detail |
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The jury's still out on RBY beating MGS (it could easily be winning
here in G/S's place, but this is some pretty big STF - not exactly a
fair fight, certainly not necessarily a 1v1). That's not really going
to matter this contest, of course, but using Ryu v Riku is a bad
example if I've ever seen one - Hayabusa WAS legitimately much, much
stronger than Riku. He just seems to fall apart mysteriously at the
sight of Solid Snake. If anything, that's instructive on how the more
powerful entity isn't necessarily going to be the winning one due to
the surrounding competition, but that's all. I would say that the analogy is pretty clear. The point was that RBY had a lot going for it the first round (much like Ryu, with Roxas and another RPG character in the poll), and the tables are turned for the next round (much like they were for Riku, who lost the 2 characters dragging him down, and benefited from Snake taking more votes). That was an impressive twist of events, if I ever saw one. I wouldn't be too surprised if MM pulled something comparable. Saying that Ryu is much, much stronger than Riku is an extreme exaggeration, I have to say. He might win, but it would be close. And you're forgetting that RBY can be stronger than MM (it is, without a doubt) and still lose next round, much like Ryu did. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/24/2009 4:18:28 AM | message detail |
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Saying that Ryu is much, much stronger than Riku is an extreme exaggeration, I have to say. He might win, but it would be close. No. No. No. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3270 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3262 Absolutely not. And you're forgetting that RBY can be stronger than MM (it is, without a doubt) and still lose next round, much like Ryu did. RBY isn't being SFFed into the dirt by a *much* stronger entity, however - and that was *just* barely enough to turn Riku/Ryu H into a 50-50 affair. Instead, it's going to be the SFFer in question, and it's going to have a doubling at the very least on its side. Not comparable. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 4/24/2009 4:44:30 AM | message detail |
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I can't imagine GS votes being anything other than lost votes for RBY,
but it still has a near doubling to start from. An even split likely
still wouldn't be enough. I think MM's only chance is that the Nintendo
fans stick with it and MGS soaks up some of the wider appeal Pokemon
has. As silly as a Pokemon/MGS overlap sounds I would sooner put MGS
voters on the Pokemon side of last match rather than the exclusive N64
title. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/24/2009 5:26:23 AM | message detail |
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Saying that Ryu is much, much stronger than Riku is an extreme
exaggeration, I have to say. He might win, but it would be close. Except for the part where, ya know, Ryu Hayabusa beat Riku and Roxas COMBINED. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/24/2009 5:40:50 AM | message detail |
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So I guess this means MGS is a bust for the semifinals, and if MGS4 is
to be considered weaker... Brawl make take some of a hit in the process? Though we've never seen Galaxy, but I would think a well-received Mario game would be fine. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: MGS > FFT - Points: 49/68 Vote: G/S |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/24/2009 6:10:02 AM | message detail |
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Not really, all Nintendo games in this half of the contest won't make it and we still haven't seen FFX, RE4 and Blizzard. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS > FFT Points: 51/68 |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/24/2009 7:03:17 AM | message detail |
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So...this match is pretty boring. About what most people expected after
yesterday and it looks like we're going to end pretty close to
40/30/20/10. Boringzone. Bring on the Xenogears domination. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 7:07:35 AM | message detail |
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Looks like FFT is bad with the Europe vote, as we probably should have
expected after seeing Ramza. Oh well, one of these days something will
actually follow Crono/Vincent trends! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/24/2009 7:13:06 AM | message detail |
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Oh well, one of these days something will actually follow Crono/Vincent trends! FFVII/Chrono Trigger perhaps! Not like that's going to be a match anyway, but still. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/24/2009 7:16:34 AM | message detail |
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I hope that match doesn't! Crono has moved past completely collapsing
now! No more shall I be treated to 4 hours of glory followed by 20
hours of intense suffering! (But if you want to know, from the 1st hour to the end, CT fell off almost exactly the same amount against FFVII back in 2004 that Crono did against Vincent in 2007. Totally different thanks to the poll start time and other stuff like that match being the finals, but yeah). --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/24/2009 7:17:44 AM | message detail |
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Crono matches wouldn't be nearly as exciting if he didn't choke half of them away, though! --- Kleenex...at work! |
| consolefreak | Posted 4/24/2009 8:17:37 AM | message detail |
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Except for the part where, ya know, Ryu Hayabusa beat Riku and Roxas COMBINED. Wow that's a fascinating find, Sherlock. Ryu stood out like a sore thumb in that first match, and any link between Snake and Ryu (so as to explain the second round) is just conjecture. I'm not saying it's implausible, but I think that a more suitable explanation is that Ryu, the only non-RPG character in that first round and the only "cool" character, got a lot of apathy votes. With Snake these went away. Of course he has real strength, which he proved when he beat Zero. But I'm not sure who I'd pick in Riku/Zero anyway. And even with Roxas and Haseo holding Riku back, he still got nearly 40% on Ryu. He beat Ryu fair and square the next round. How this translates to Ryu being "much ,much" stronger is a bit puzzling in my opinion. Pokemon RBY, despite being a much stronger and more legit entity in comparison to Ryu, will suffer a similar fate. After all, who hasn't played RBY? I sure as hell voted for it yesterday. Next round, Sony fans have something to vote for. Am I calling SFF between MGS and RBY? Not really, but I don't see MM losing much% next round, RBY definitely will. I can't stress enough that I give RBY like a 90% of advancing next round. Giving it a better chance to finish first than to finish third, however, is a bit foolish. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/24/2009 8:28:34 AM | message detail |
| Who here is nervous about FF8/Starcraft? I have a
feeling that either game will flop, but I'm not sure which one will
flop more. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS > FFT Points: 51/68 |
| draarrowgant | Posted 4/24/2009 8:30:56 AM | message detail |
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Wow, I thought Final Fantasy Tactics would take 2nd place easily,
and I was expecting another epic Metal Gear Solid vs. Final Fantasy
Tactics match here. Guess I was wrong. It's also ironic that FFT got
into the top 20 on GameFAQs' list, ahead of stuff like Super Mario
World and Super Metroid, but will go out in the first round here. Oh, and whatever happened to Deus Ex? It's barely breaking 8% here. Sure it doesn't have much of a fanbase on GameFAQs, but it was recently called, by Entertainment Weekly, the 23rd best game of all time. Why is it bombing so badly here? Probably because it sold barely over a million copies... and many of those who bought it don't really come to gamefaqs or participate in this contest. I mean- how would some of the original Leisure Suit Larry's play out? Cornerstone of PC gaming, but that demographic is not representative here... just saying... --- ************************************** psn aarrowgant |
| transience | Posted 4/24/2009 8:33:21 AM | message detail |
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r2 is really a tossup with these guys. I wouldn't write Majora's Mask
off there. I mock ZELDA all the time, but I still have a hard time
seeing the Zelda faithful abandoning it completely. if it gets like
20%, RBY might be hard-pressed to advance with the way they're going to
split. RBY should be the clear fave but I wouldn't be surprised if we have no Pokemon games in r3. --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/24/2009 8:36:14 AM | message detail |
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Yeah. Influential doesn't really mean jack **** here if you're a PC game and aren't Blizzard or Valve. See: SimCity. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/24/2009 9:00:32 AM | message detail |
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He beat Ryu fair and square the next round. How this translates to
Ryu being "much ,much" stronger is a bit puzzling in my opinion. After seeing that Snake is Ryu Hayabusa's Kryptonite, I say Riku coming out on top is a lot less impressive than you're making it out to be. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| consolefreak | Posted 4/24/2009 9:26:49 AM | message detail |
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After seeing that Snake is Ryu Hayabusa's Kryptonite, I say Riku
coming out on top is a lot less impressive than you're making it out to
be. It's easy to say that Snake is Ryu's "kryptonite" after seeing those results, even though nothing points to a disproportionate relationship between Snake and Ryu. On the contrary, as far as fanbases go, they're very far apart. In fact, we've seen a lot more evidence of MGS-KH SFF. Between Riku, Roxas and Haseo, there are a crapload of people who don't give a damn for either. Ryu has his fans, and then there's the large portion of voters who don't know who to vote for. After seeing this http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=28 the choice is pretty easy for them. Next round, Snake eats those votes up. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/24/2009 9:27:06 AM | message detail |
| Hey, I resent all this talk about StarCraft in
round 3, especially with Lopen referring to the perfect storm that is
reserved only for FFVIII! One part of the perfect storm down (No FFT in
round 3), one more to go (No FFIX in round 2), and then it's
OoT/RBY/MGS/FFVIII. Aw yeah --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/24/2009 9:30:21 AM | message detail |
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Yesterday's chart: Time | Banjo-K. | P. Dark | R/B/Y | LOZ: MM | Demographic EBV | 8.90% | 11.44% | 51.48% | 28.18% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 8.81% | 11.91% | 51.43% | 27.86% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 8.50% | 12.99% | 50.93% | 27.58% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 8.52% | 11.57% | 49.68% | 30.23% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 8.75% | 12.36% | 49.19% | 29.70% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 9.03% | 10.56% | 51.52% | 28.90% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 8.23% | 11.92% | 51.68% | 28.18% | (22:00-24:00) The only time R/B/Y averaged less than 50% of the vote was during the morning vote and the during school time, seems kinda strange to me. Majora's Mask surpasses 30% in the morning in classic Zelda fashion, but it doesn't have a great night vote. Perfect Dark had a good night vote and pretty good during school vote. Bad ASV though. Banjo-Kazooie does the best during the ASV, as all 3-D platformers seem to do, for whatever the reason. Yesterday's stats: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow – 50.00% Majora’s Mask – 36.28% Perfect Dark – 18.77% Banjo-Kazooie – 14.72% --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/24/2009 9:31:50 AM | message detail |
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After watching Hayabusa defeat Zero only to be crushed by him in the next round with Snake in the poll again doesn't seem odd? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS > FFT Points: 51/68 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/24/2009 9:38:37 AM | message detail |
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Between Riku, Roxas and Haseo, there are a crapload of people who
don't give a damn for either. Ryu has his fans, and then there's the
large portion of voters who don't know who to vote for. After seeing
this http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=28 the choice is pretty easy for them. Next round, Snake eats those votes up. You seem to be arguing against yourself here, suggesting that Snake SFFs all of Ryu's "cool" votes away. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/24/2009 10:31:57 AM | message detail |
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Now then, there has been rumblings that FFVIII can beat Starcraft
tomorrow. There is no way, not with Xenogears. Once again, I,
Hochiminh, will take challengers for a sig bet. Anyone have the
wherewithal to accept my challenge? Eh, I've got Final Fantasy VIII > Starcraft in my bracket so why not. I'll take you on that bet good sir! Do you accept, or yield? --- 54/68 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Metal Gear Solid > FFT | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| Mumei | Posted 4/24/2009 11:18:27 AM | message detail |
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| Mumei | Posted 4/24/2009 11:21:48 AM | message detail |
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Ahem. Why won't this damn match hurry up and end? --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/24/2009 11:27:10 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, we need some FFVIII > StarCraft action! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 11:29:24 AM | message detail |
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We've got two very exciting matches coming. The excitement is making me excited. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| transience | Posted 4/24/2009 11:31:05 AM | message detail |
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these matches don't do too much for me. I was more into seeing what the hell was up with Pokemon. Starcraft should be pretty important though. time to find out how fake that run was. --- yzzyx |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/24/2009 11:43:51 AM | message detail |
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I'm guessing "very". If Soul Calibur decided to grab 2nd tomorrow instead of it I wouldn't be shocked! --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/24/2009 11:46:47 AM | message detail |
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I dunno about that, but I wouldn't expect the extra 50,000 voters we've picked up over the years to be very kind to Starcraft. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Mumei | Posted 4/24/2009 12:00:31 PM | message detail |
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My pessimism is quite bad enough without you people helping. v_v --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 12:02:40 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I've got Final Fantasy VIII > Starcraft in my bracket so why
not. I'll take you on that bet good sir! Do you accept, or yield? I accept, naturally. I will bury you. Here's the thing with Starcraft. If SC/WW were redone today, SC would get between 42% and 45% of the vote. Not as strong as it once was but still quite strong. Keep in mind that SC is the type of game to thrive in this format. --- The corpse's bitter crimson tears flow and mingle with the endless sand, feeding the chaos within me and making me stronger. |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/24/2009 12:05:56 PM | message detail |
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Arguably, whether the new voters like SC might not matter. In all its
matches, Starcraft performed very consistently (it had 10k more votes
in Halo/SC, but other than that, it draw the same vote totals on each
match). Assuming nothing has caused a big drop (no reason to think
that's the case, especially with SC2 in development), and that its
fanbase remains consistent, SC should be fine in this format. Even with
a 10k drop in votes, it should do fine against most other games. Of course, I'm not sure how much we can trust 2004, so we'll have to wait and see. |
| transience | Posted 4/24/2009 12:12:11 PM | message detail |
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second-tier Pokemon beats top-tier MGS outright in the daytime, woo --- xyzzy |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/24/2009 12:20:17 PM | message detail |
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Yeesh. GSC wins its first 15 min update of the match by 64 votes. 15:15 | 06.21% | 24.19% | 32.15% | 37.45% GSC's best hour to this point has been 33.6% at 7:00. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/24/2009 12:27:46 PM | message detail |
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I accept, naturally. I will bury you. Cool beans. Terms? Conditions? etc. etc. --- 54/68 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Metal Gear Solid > FFT | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| voltch | Posted 4/24/2009 12:28:26 PM | message detail |
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don't do it,charlie wil bury you. --- Pearl FC:2450 0974 5734 *shakes fist* |
| hochiminhX | Posted 4/24/2009 12:29:44 PM | message detail |
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Sig bet for 1 week. If FFVIII > SC, you win. When SC beats FFVIII, I win. --- The corpse's bitter crimson tears flow and mingle with the endless sand, feeding the chaos within me and making me stronger. |
| voltch | Posted 4/24/2009 12:31:04 PM | message detail |
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wait,has hochi been winning sig bets like crazy recently or something? cos i'm seeing some humble sigs round here. --- Pearl FC:2450 0974 5734 *shakes fist* |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/24/2009 12:32:22 PM | message detail |
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FF8 > Starcraft in Round 1 is an idiotic bet to take. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Lunar 2, Devil May Cry 3 |
