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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 688

ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:38:26 PM | message detail
And FFVIII can advance there, better believe!

I'd almost be surprised if it didn't. But I'm not on the MGS hype train like most people, so that's probably why!

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 4:39:33 PM | message detail
I am stating facts here... Xenogears is a great great game and much better than Starcraft and Soul Calibur IMO.

But I wouldn't bet it against FF8 and Starcraft.

Because it is a fact that in this contest rare games get pummelled by well known ones.


Hey, I'm not the one saying that FF8 will have no trouble pummeling Starcraft. FF8 is going to be losing votes courtesy of Xenogears. I don't care what you think, that game isn't what I'd call forgotten.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2009 4:40:09 PM | message detail
you can find some of the originals in every game, I believe. you'll find RBY Pokes in D/P, for example. think of it like Final Fantasy -- you'll find Cactuars and Marlboros and whatnot in every game, the only difference is that you can catch them.

all Pokemon games are pretty much the same, in the same sense that all Mega Man games are the same or whatever. the difference is that you've done it all before so it loses its charm, which is probably the majority of RBY's strength.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 4:40:23 PM | message detail
I'll have to wait to see how MGS performs tomorrow before I can determine just how confident in FFVIII I am.

Well, I guess I should wait to see how FFVIII performs, too, but still!
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/23/2009 4:40:48 PM | message detail
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hochiminhX | Posted 4/23/2009 4:42:18 PM | message detail
... Says the New User with 38 Karma.


Hmph. Clearly you have no idea who I am and what I am capable of doing.


All right. 1 line for 1 week. I hope you have something in mind.


Then it is official. I will bury you.

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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:43:00 PM | message detail
FFVIII can still beat StarCraft despite Xenogears being there, just depends on how much stronger FFVIII is over SC. Xenogears is gonna hurt it, though, enough that it might end up a really close match. That'll be good match!

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:43:27 PM | message detail

From: hochiminhX
what I am capable of doing.


Oh dear hochi, never change. Also, can you screenshot your bracket so I know what you've got later on in the contest, you didn't enter the guru this year.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2009 4:44:53 PM | message detail
Xenogears/FF8 this is going to be a disaster
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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:46:22 PM | message detail
should be the two to advance there tbqh

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trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2009 4:49:02 PM | message detail
you know how I feel here
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hochiminhX | Posted 4/23/2009 4:49:13 PM | message detail
Oh dear hochi, never change. Also, can you screenshot your bracket so I know what you've got later on in the contest, you didn't enter the guru this year.


No. I will not - at least not yet. I currently have 54 points - 58 points after today. Also, I will say this. 4 way contest law states that something ****ed up happens in the final. That is why I have Ocarina of Time taking Third in the final match. FFVII gets first. But who gets second? That, my dear, is something you couldn't possibly comprehend.



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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 4:50:27 PM | message detail
But who gets second? That, my dear, is something you couldn't possibly comprehend

Metal Gear Solid of course.
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Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:50:50 PM | message detail
I don't think Xenogears will hurt FF8 as much as many ppl think... I'm more worried about FF9 against Half-Life... I love FF9 but I don't wan't FF9 to hold FF8 back in round 2
hochiminhX | Posted 4/23/2009 4:52:05 PM | message detail
Yes, Xenogears WILL hurt FFVIII. Sorry. Xenogears is NOT fodder. FFVIII and SC are probably close in strength but Xenogears WILL drag FFVIII down. FFVIII doesn't have a prayer at getting first, sorry to say.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:52:28 PM | message detail

From: hochiminhX
No. I will not - at least not yet. I currently have 54 points - 58 points after today. Also, I will say this. 4 way contest law states that something ****ed up happens in the final. That is why I have Ocarina of Time taking Third in the final match. FFVII gets first. But who gets second? That, my dear, is something you couldn't possibly comprehend.


OMG! I'm doing as well as hochi is! Also yeah, I'd bet on something ****ed up happening as well, but damned if I know what, so I just went FF7 > OoT as the safe bet.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/23/2009 4:52:38 PM | message detail
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Mumei | Posted 4/23/2009 4:53:35 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-18.jpg

Happy with Pokemon's picture.

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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:54:24 PM | message detail
Hey, there's my FFT pic.

Not too bad overall.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 4:54:30 PM | message detail
The one game that doesn't have a prayer of advancing with the pic advantage. Nice.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/23/2009 4:54:45 PM | message detail
FFT with plain ole' cover art which didn't really represent the game well to begin with. Kind of anticlimactic for what could be a close match
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:54:50 PM | message detail
PokeASS

Deus Ex wins the picture war eaaaasy.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 4:54:58 PM | message detail
I don't think Xenogears will hurt FF8 as much as many ppl think...

Uh-uh. Sorry, but Xenogears is NOT fodder. Again, Fei Fong Wong managed to get in the character battle last year.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/23/2009 4:57:21 PM | message detail
That's my MGS pic, but I wonder why Bacon didn't go with one of these:

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http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3623/metalgearsolid3bevel.png

Honestly, his choices baffle me sometimes.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 5:00:04 PM | message detail
The Tactics pic is meh, but then again there isn't very much else that could represent it well. The only thing I can think of is the official artwork for Ramza. And that's still meh.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/23/2009 5:00:39 PM | message detail
FFT needed a capture of L I T T L E M O N E Y

Instant victory
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Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 5:04:00 PM | message detail
I'm not saying Xenogears is fodder.. Just cause FF8 and Xenogears are Squaresoft games doesn't mean they have the same fanbase. Take the Squall/Sora/Yoshi/(If forgot the other one) match... even with Squall and Sora splitting votes... Squall totally owned Yoshi in that match... It may hurt FF8 a bit but not enough to tarnish it's chance at 1st place. I don't buy the SFF hype unless its a match like FF7/FF8/FF10/OoT match in which OoT will have a HUGE edge... but then again OoT may not be able to beat FF7 even with all that.
ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 5:04:04 PM | message detail
Holy crap Cloud's character portrait from Tactics would've practically guaranteed instant victory. If only I would've thought of that sooner/knew anything about photo editing.
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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 5:04:56 PM | message detail
Haha, I really doubt he would have chosen a picture of Cloud to represent FFT.

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Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 5:06:06 PM | message detail
Holy crap Cloud's character portrait from Tactics would've practically guaranteed instant victory. If only I would've thought of that sooner/knew anything about photo editing.

LOL... you should have done that mate it would have benfitted my bracket a lot.
LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 5:06:56 PM | message detail
So...what do people think about Wind Waker after this?
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 5:09:10 PM | message detail
Haha, I really doubt he would have chosen a picture of Cloud to represent FFT.

If he'll accept Naked Kefka, anything's possible! :D

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 5:10:50 PM | message detail
Just cause FF8 and Xenogears are Squaresoft games doesn't mean they have the same fanbase. Take the Squall/Sora/Yoshi/(If forgot the other one) match... even with Squall and Sora splitting votes... Squall totally owned Yoshi in that match... It may hurt FF8 a bit but not enough to tarnish it's chance at 1st place.

Ugh. They're both Squaresoft games on the Playstation. Common sense says they'll overlap. Fox was in that other match, meaning Yoshi was being leeched as well. And to say FF8 has first in the bag is ludicrous. I'd consider that Samus > Mario levels of stupid.
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ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 5:11:22 PM | message detail
Gotta say, Cloud being there would have been awesome!

pokemon owned

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 5:12:54 PM | message detail
Fox was in that other match, meaning Yoshi was being leeched as well.

Well, what's Yoshi's excuse for the first time they faced each other?
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Mumei | Posted 4/23/2009 5:13:40 PM | message detail
Well, what's Yoshi's excuse for the first time they faced each other?

He's not nearly as awesome.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 5:15:01 PM | message detail
Darn right.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 5:15:43 PM | message detail
*reads a few posts back*

Huh, you were denied a prize for something voting related Leon?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 5:17:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, back in 2007, I would have finished in 10th place, but I accidentally double voted in Vincent/Zelda/Tails/The Boss, so I was disqualified for vote stuffing. I appealed, but legally, Bacon's hands were bound, so what can you do?

*shrugs*
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/23/2009 5:18:04 PM | message detail
Whoa, they keep track of that kind of thing? I had no idea
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 4/23/2009 5:25:19 PM | message detail
It's not that difficult to check if you vote on user accounts!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/23/2009 5:44:01 PM | message detail
You are a nobody. As a rule of thumb, I only do sig-bets with the best and the brightest this board has to offer such as Yoblazer or Karma Hunter.

hochi knows that the best days of my life were when people were convinced that I was him
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 5:57:02 PM | message detail

From: MetricTrout | Posted: 4/23/2009 6:08:01 PM | #130
All right, sig bet.

Pokemon G/S/C scores at least 45% on MGS tomorrow. 1 line, lasts until the end of Round 1. Who wants some?


I'll take this sig bet.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 5:59:15 PM | message detail

From: Internet_Warbot | Posted: 4/23/2009 6:34:52 PM | #153
People really aren't giving FF8 the respect it deserves. It was voted the 17th best game ever on this very site, Squall has gone from strength to strength year after year and it's widespread appeal is huge. It's FFX strength at worst, possibly the second in command to FFVII, it could certainly be a powerhouse.


I have it beating Starcraft. Starcraft is my game of choice for the "most likely to flop".
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 6:00:23 PM | message detail
I have it beating Starcraft. Starcraft is my game of choice for the "most likely to flop".

...Hmm. Yeah, Starcraft rallied last game contest, but votals were lower then than they are now.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 6:00:48 PM | message detail

From: MetricTrout | Posted: 4/23/2009 6:22:22 PM | #144
Actually, wait. I will sig bet anyone that G/S/C wins outright.


HAH! Done.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 6:01:28 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | Posted: 4/23/2009 9:00:23 PM | #245
I have it beating Starcraft. Starcraft is my game of choice for the "most likely to flop".

...Hmm. Yeah, Starcraft rallied last game contest, but votals were lower then than they are now.


And it was against unbelievably ****ty competition. Anyone who thinks Wind Waker and Soul Calibur are what the 2004 stats say they are needs help.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 6:06:09 PM | message detail
Not crappy competition, just overrated competition. I'm not sure FFVIII is that far above Wind Waker though.

But after today...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/23/2009 6:09:17 PM | message detail
Oh and the same is fairly true of Halo, Kingdom Hearts and possibly even Smash Brothers Melee. All of Starcraft's opponents after Halo were counter-rallied in a very low-scoring contest, which put all of Division 128 out of whack in the stats.

WIND WAKER is not worth like 48% on Melee indirectly. That's ****ing ludicrous.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 6:11:08 PM | message detail
We'll see what it's worth in about a week!

I think Wind Waker will hold up better than you think, but I still think Melee wins comfortably. So, uhh...

Twilight Princess
Wind Waker
Link's Awakening
Majora's Mask
Zelda 1

...How do you rank these games now?
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