GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 688
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 3:32:14 PM | message detail |
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Maybe we can or maybe we cannot... but a lot of ppl are
underestimating FF8. FF8 is just marginally weaker than FF10 and I
expect FF10 would kill the original SSB in a one on one poll. I don't doubt that FFX would beat SSB one-on-one. But we've never seen FF8 in a games contest, and yet you're claiming that it can beat SSB despite the fact that other series starters are doing well? --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 3:32:46 PM | message detail |
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Still waiting for someone to take my Pokemon > MGS sig bet. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/23/2009 3:34:52 PM | message detail |
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People really aren't giving FF8 the respect it deserves. It was voted
the 17th best game ever on this very site, Squall has gone from
strength to strength year after year and it's widespread appeal is
huge. It's FFX strength at worst, possibly the second in command to
FFVII, it could certainly be a powerhouse. --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 3:35:56 PM | message detail |
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Still waiting for someone to take my Pokemon > MGS sig bet. People are probably scared poopless. It's a gutsy bet on your part, but I think you may end up on top, and it's not even because GSC would necessarily be stronger than MGS. It's the only Nintendo game in the poll, and look at what's going on right now. The absolute best thing to happen to GSC is that it's match comes up right as the one ends. This will be a 48-hour Pokemon extravaganza to the series fans. I'd be willing to bet that GSC will look stronger today than it would if its match was a week ago. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:41:32 PM | message detail |
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I don't doubt that FFX would beat SSB one-on-one. But we've never
seen FF8 in a games contest, and yet you're claiming that it can beat
SSB despite the fact that other series starters are doing well? FFX would have a tough time beating the other SSB titles but not the original... no way... the original is disliked by many gamers in comparison to Melee and Brawl which is much superior... FFX is stronger than ever and FF8 which used to be hated by many gamers noticbly turned around many FF8 haters into FF8 lovers over the years. SSB could have a chance over FF2, 3, 5, 11, 12, 10-2 but I don't think it has what it takes to beat the likes of FF10 and FF8 which are 2 of the top 4 FF games. |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:44:11 PM | message detail |
| Guys, I have a thought, why are we all so sure FFX
is going to demolish things? I've just suddenly decided it's going to
bomb, for no reason whatsoever. --- Odd. |
| PegasusLover123 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:45:19 PM | message detail |
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But at the same time, you have to consider that these originals is what let them to evolve in the first time. I certainly remember playing the original SSB and even to this day its still fun. If a game is memorable, then it has left its mark in that generation. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:46:36 PM | message detail |
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People really aren't giving FF8 the respect it deserves. It was
voted the 17th best game ever on this very site, Squall has gone from
strength to strength year after year and it's widespread appeal is
huge. It's FFX strength at worst, possibly the second in command to
FFVII, it could certainly be a powerhouse. Exactly what I wanted to say. While FF6 has slipped in strength and FF11, FF12 tarnished the FF reputation, FF8 and FF10 are noticbly the most improved in strength from the FF games. Squall is an example of that... Squall nearly scored an upset over Solid freaking Snake in a one on one contest.. that says a lot. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/23/2009 3:47:27 PM | message detail |
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Why do people think G/S will get a boost by simply being in the next match? I think most of the voters here don't even base their vote on the last day. Just look at about every single finals match we've ever had except... fourways... wait we are in fourways oh god. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: MM > PD - Points: 48/64 Vote: R/B/Y |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:49:43 PM | message detail |
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No way I can see FF8 being that strong when it can only get in Squall,
who also benefits a lot from the KH games. FF8 will definitely have
some strength, but I can't see it being stronger that FF10 or even FF6. I think FF8/SSB could go either way. It's too bad we're gonna watch Soulcalibur get crushed instead (though if it does somehow beat FF8, it'll still be a moral victory for me, unlikely as it'll be). --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/23/2009 3:50:56 PM | message detail |
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To be fair Vincent was left out of the character battle for a long time
and look what he did. Someone like Seifer could easily be a force if
they ever got a chance to show it. --- (\__/) Meet Ziggy,the Evil Bunny who wants to take over the world and eat the flesh of the weak. (='.'=] Put Ziggy in your sig to support his cause. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/23/2009 3:54:11 PM | message detail |
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Squall nearly scored an upset over Solid freaking Snake in a one on one contest. No he didn't, in any format. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2539 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=955 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2922 --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 3:56:20 PM | message detail |
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FFX is stronger than ever Because FF12 flopped. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 3:58:02 PM | message detail |
| yeah I meant that match where Solid Snake won 57-43 which is a close call... I only thought Squall would hit around 33 that time because Snake is a top 5 character |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 4:02:10 PM | message detail |
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Solid Snake won 57-43 which is a close call If you call that a "close call".... You have no idea what a REAL close call is. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/23/2009 4:02:19 PM | message detail |
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42% was actually considered a major disappointment for Squall at the time. --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/23/2009 4:06:30 PM | message detail |
| At the time, yeah, though looking back on it
Squall did pretty well on Solid considering that was when
SSBB/MGS4-hype was the newest in these contests. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| creativename | Posted 4/23/2009 4:08:03 PM | message detail |
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Seifer would've been a respectable force back in the day, but not
anymore. He's mostly forgotten now. But yeah, the fact that FF8 can't
get anyone else in is near meaningless. There's reasons to doubt it but
that's a bad one. It's been my position though that people have been underrating FF8. It was a big underdog to Starcraft I think, when I think it should be a slight favorite. Too bad for it FF9 might be there 2nd round (though I think Half-Life gets the edge there). If FF9 doesn't make it 2nd round I think FF8 might be able to beat Starcraft twice. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:08:15 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't start doubting FFVIII based on Majora's Mask of all things.
The FF game that better matches up to MM is FFIX -- small but vocal
fanbase ('small' in FF and Zelda terms), end of the console's lifespan,
not nearly the sales of its predecessors, and often forgotten next to
other games in the series. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| hochiminhX | Posted 4/23/2009 4:09:03 PM | message detail |
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Still waiting for someone to take my Pokemon > MGS sig bet. You are a nobody. As a rule of thumb, I only do sig-bets with the best and the brightest this board has to offer such as Yoblazer or Karma Hunter. Although, after today's catastrophic blunder I have half a mind to demote Yoblazer to "Mediocre and dim" status. Regardless, I'll accept your bet. GSC will not beat MGS. I cannot stress this enough. GSC is irrelevant. Nobody cares about it. That is why it got the holy hell knocked out of it by Xenogears. --- The corpse's bitter crimson tears flow and mingle with the endless sand, feeding the chaos within me and making me stronger. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:13:35 PM | message detail |
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GSC is going to "flop" tonight, through no fault of its own, and anyone
from 20 hours ago wouldn't have called it a flop. RBY is a strong game;
Pokemon is not a strong series, saying GSC beats MGS tomorrow because
of RBY's performance today is like saying that all Final Fantasy games
can beat A Link to the Past because FFVII can. Or like saying that
Magus will beat Link because hardcore Chrono Trigger fans prefer him,
and Crono beat Mario. I've been saying that RBY is way beyond any other
Pokemon game for a long time, and that's the reason I took it to win
today. I'm not really sure what to make of MGS/FFT, although lately I rather feel that MGS will win comfortably but won't blow it away- not sure how much Snake being Brawl really helps MGS. Seeing Goldeneye and co. in action isn't exactly encouraging for MGS. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:14:51 PM | message detail |
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The chosen one mentioned me by name. Today has been a good day. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| creativename | Posted 4/23/2009 4:15:11 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't start doubting FFVIII based on Majora's Mask of all things. Who's saying this? That's an awful parallel. FF8 was widely disliked at the time and was a big disappointment to fans, but Majora's Mask was overshadowed as well as disliked. FF8 was not overshadowed in the same type of way. And even in the *last* games contest people were saying how FF8 hate was pretty much gone. Anybody trying to discount any game with a MM parallel would be reaching. MM is it's own thing and this performance doesn't indicate anything for any other game. Although, after today's catastrophic blunder I have half a mind to demote Yoblazer to "Mediocre and dim" status. Well if you have his sig, make it official then :) --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:16:02 PM | message detail |
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I don't think FF8 will have too much trouble with Starcraft... I think
it will be like a Squall VS Yoshi match. And FF9 I believe will have to
do quite a bit to beat Half-Life. As much as I'd like FF9 to be in the
2nd round... I don't wan't FF8 to be SFFed by it. I'm wondering how FF8 would do against MGS or Pokemon Red |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:16:42 PM | message detail |
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Er....Goldeneye's pack doing badly is not encouraging for MGS in
general, not specifically against FFT as FFT is behind MGS in the 2004
stats after all. Nothing is close to proven in any case. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| creativename | Posted 4/23/2009 4:17:25 PM | message detail |
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Seeing Goldeneye and co. in action isn't exactly encouraging for MGS. MGS4 will mean a lot more for MGS than Brawl. The MGS franchise is quite relevant, Goldeneye is aging. Not aging too fast and still remembered, but aging. MGS should probably be as strong as ever. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| Mumei | Posted 4/23/2009 4:20:37 PM | message detail |
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I don't think FF8 will have too much trouble with Starcraft... I think it will be like a Squall VS Yoshi match. ... 60 - 40 match? <_< --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:20:49 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd agree. If a couple of matches go its way -- which they might
after today -- FFVIII could have a great shot at getting to the
quarterfinals. It's going to need to be legitimately strong, but I
think it probably will be. Not quite FFX's level, but probably a top 15
sort of game. It just has to hope FFIX doesn't get in the way in round
2. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:22:51 PM | message detail |
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Gordy's matches are easily my most anticipated of the rest of Round 1. I mean, people... Gordon Freeman can be known as the Final Fantasy Killer. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/23/2009 4:23:59 PM | message detail |
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FFNWAGF --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:24:46 PM | message detail |
| FF8 could get through the 2nd round unscathed and could beat MGS and Red in the next round as well... that will be a very interesting matchup MGS/Red/FF8/OoT. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/23/2009 4:24:49 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #177 Yoshi would do better than that today. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: MM > PD - Points: 48/64 Vote: R/B/Y |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 4:25:56 PM | message detail |
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GSC would have to be as strong as RBY and also split perfectly
evenly with it. Nothing like that has ever even come close to happening. I'd say Squall/Sora came close to that, at least. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 4:26:25 PM | message detail |
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Here's hoping Metal Gear Solid kicks some Poke/Fantasy/Fourth scrub ass tomorrow! --- 50/64 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Pokemon RBY > Zelda: Majora's Mask | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/23/2009 4:29:25 PM | message detail |
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I don't think FF8 will have too much trouble with Starcraft... I think it will be like a Squall VS Yoshi match. Can I call you fanboy now? You're ignoring the fact that Xenogears is there. --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:29:31 PM | message detail |
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Picture for today's match is big. If Pokemon grabs another trio of
nostalgia-evoking originals, it'll be in good shape. If it gets crap
new to GSC, it'll be ASS (apart from the legendary dogs, which look
pretty damned cool). --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 4:32:31 PM | message detail |
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You are a nobody. As a rule of thumb, I only do sig-bets with the
best and the brightest this board has to offer such as Yoblazer or
Karma Hunter. Although, after today's catastrophic blunder I have half
a mind to demote Yoblazer to "Mediocre and dim" status. Regardless, I'll accept your bet. GSC will not beat MGS. I cannot stress this enough. GSC is irrelevant. Nobody cares about it. That is why it got the holy hell knocked out of it by Xenogears. ... Says the New User with 38 Karma. All right. 1 line for 1 week. I hope you have something in mind. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:33:25 PM | message detail |
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Wait, can you catch the original pokemon in GSC? Sorry for being clueless about Pokemon. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 4:34:35 PM | message detail |
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It'll most likely get Ho-oh and Lugia, as they were on the box/game
cartridge. I can't really think of any nostalgic Pokemon from that
generation which could get the same effect as the RBY art. --- 50/64 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Pokemon RBY > Zelda: Majora's Mask | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| General_Zimbad | Posted 4/23/2009 4:34:40 PM | message detail |
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Some of them. --- These are my friends, I have there backs, they are the closest thing to blood that I have!!! |
| MetricTrout | Posted 4/23/2009 4:34:41 PM | message detail |
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I believe you can. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 4:35:07 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi would do better than that today. ...Why? The match was just six months ago. And MM's performance shouldn't have people doubting FFVIII here. I don't see TOO much reason to doubt it other than the hate. If anything, it should make people start doubting FFIX. The parallels between MM and FFIX have already been pointed out. And remember that even a "hated" MGS2 scored 43% on Melee back in the day. FFVIII definitely has a fanbase. I hate using The List as evidence, but it did score in the top 20, while you see games like FFIX, Majora's Mask, and the Wind Waker down there in the 40s somewhere. Man, I'm hoping FFVIII can somehow pull off the perfect storm and get out of this division. It's looking like FFT won't be an obstacle with the way RBY is performing today. Now it's just a matter if FFIX gets in the way, and FFVIII is at least good to get to round 3. Then it's MGS/FFVIII/RBY/OoT. And FFVIII can advance there, better believe! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| General_Zimbad | Posted 4/23/2009 4:36:08 PM | message detail |
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If snorlax was in the pick it would be awesome. --- These are my friends, I have there backs, they are the closest thing to blood that I have!!! |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 4/23/2009 4:36:11 PM | message detail |
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Yeah you can catch some of the Pokes from the RBY generation in G/S. *sigh* I would so enjoy a Gold/Silver remake for DS --- 50/64 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Pokemon RBY > Zelda: Majora's Mask | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
| ZFS | Posted 4/23/2009 4:36:24 PM | message detail |
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I don't know that the pic for GSC would be the same thing we got for
RBY today, although I'm just as clueless on Pokemon as everyone else.
Whatever ones are on the box, probably. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/23/2009 4:36:33 PM | message detail |
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I don't feel too good about FF8. I don't even have a reason. I still like it more than the other stuff in its half though. Starcraft, FF9, Half-Life.. ehh. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:36:48 PM | message detail |
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What the... almost all the Pokemon in that game were new? No wonder people don't care about. The thing is, I played through that game twice, and I can't recall this at all. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
| Final_Rocker99 | Posted 4/23/2009 4:37:01 PM | message detail |
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Can I call you fanboy now? You're ignoring the fact that Xenogears is there. I am stating facts here... Xenogears is a great great game and much better than Starcraft and Soul Calibur IMO. But I wouldn't bet it against FF8 and Starcraft. Because it is a fact that in this contest rare games get pummelled by well known ones. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/23/2009 4:37:25 PM | message detail |
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I don't feel too good about FF8. I don't even have a reason. I feel great about FFVIII for obvious reasons! Fanboyism never fails! Just ask Lopen! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/23/2009 4:38:24 PM | message detail |
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All we need is Gordon to come through. I have a lot of faith in FFVIII's own natural strength. For some reason. --- I, like clockwork, have been humiliated by hochiminh Hochiminh is better than me. I was a numbskull for thinking I could defy Him. |
