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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 687

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 9:24:17 PM | message detail
There's 4 conclusions we can draw here:

1) Majora's Mask is being really hurt by it's picture and N64 SFF here
2) Link's Awakening beats Majora's Mask comfortably
3) Majora's Mask > LA, but MMX and FF6 are incredibly weak
4) R/B/Y is a threat to get out of this division

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/22/2009 9:24:27 PM | message detail
Let's do some extrapolating.

Set MM equal to LA. Where does this put RBY?

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transience | Posted 4/22/2009 9:24:32 PM | message detail
Such a shame that R/B will be up against SFF and Ocarina so early.

if there's one thing I've learned from the character battles, it's that Pokemon does *not* get SFFed. it stood up great to Luigi. it handled Samus like a champ.

Pokemon won't die off in the face of OOT - I would say that it has a much better chance of standing up to it than any other Nintendo game. every other game is in OOT's shadow except for RBY.

now, it might still lose, that wouldn't be too surprising. MGS is legit, after all, or so we assume. Starcraft, too. but I don't think it'll fold.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/22/2009 9:24:44 PM | message detail

From: ExquisiteSamurai | #050
From: charmander6000
It's a shame Ocarina of Time is in this division or else RBY would've had a realistic chance at advancing out of this division.


What are you talking about? it's obvious it's going to be RBY > OoT


Hell, freaking no.

OOT is the Nintendo game in this contest.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 9:24:45 PM | message detail

From: ExquisiteSamurai | #050
From: charmander6000
It's a shame Ocarina of Time is in this division or else RBY would've had a realistic chance at advancing out of this division.


What are you talking about? it's obvious it's going to be RBY > OoT


At this point, with Pokemon almost doubling MM, I can't say thats impossible.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:25:02 PM | message detail
Me and ngirl are riding numbah 4 to the pay windah!

POKEEEEMOOOOOOON


DREEEEEEEEEEEAM!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:25:09 PM | message detail
Even with this performance, I still can't fathom Link's Awakening being stronger than Majora's Mask. That just makes no sense to me.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/22/2009 9:25:57 PM | message detail
Hell, freaking no.

OOT is the Nintendo game in this contest.


I guess people can't tell sarcasm very well in a message board .. <.<

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:26:06 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato
Also, I would like to make use of my good mood to apologize to the stats topic in general. I think I've been more annoying than usual lately; I'll try to tone it down.


I'll do this when I get down from my IMMENSE HIGH from seeing this happen. And yes I will be bragging for a while, since I'm pretty sure I'm the person who predicted RBY getting the highest. And even then I only thought it would be knocking on low to mid 40s.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/22/2009 9:26:12 PM | message detail
Holy **** Pokemon. Keep going up why don't ya!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 9:26:26 PM | message detail
Pokemon won't die off in the face of OOT - I would say that it has a much better chance of standing up to it than any other Nintendo game. every other game is in OOT's shadow except for RBY.

You might be right.

You people are insane and kind of scare me and I'd like to see pictures of the posters adoring the walls in your rooms just for shock value.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:26:33 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #052
Let's do some extrapolating.

Set MM equal to LA. Where does this put RBY?


Let's see:
RBY currently has 65.30% on MM.
FF6 got 56.09% on LA.

...Oh my.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:26:55 PM | message detail
DID YOU GUYS JUST SEE THAT 56% UPDATE?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:10 PM | message detail
I would have definitely taken Wind Waker out in the first round if it wasn't against 2 turbofodder strategy games.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:14 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #057
Even with this performance, I still can't fathom Link's Awakening being stronger than Majora's Mask. That just makes no sense to me.


MM is really a cultish game in the Zelda fanbase. It is a great game and people who like it speak VERY highly of it, but it is a very strange game and doesn't have that "Zelda" image like LTTP, OOT or even LA contain. It's hard for me to describe, but MM was so very different in atmosphere and tone from the other Zelda games it's like a different series entirely at times.

It's possible that MM is weaker than LA, simply because of it's cult image.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:28 PM | message detail

From: nintendogirl1 | #059
I'll do this when I get down from my IMMENSE HIGH from seeing this happen. And yes I will be bragging for a while, since I'm pretty sure I'm the person who predicted RBY getting the highest. And even then I only thought it would be knocking on low to mid 40s.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=49190852&message=539156656
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transience | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:30 PM | message detail
here's an overreaction -

Mario Galaxy
D/P
Call of Duty 4
some other game I can't be bothered to remember

what happens?
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:32 PM | message detail
Mewtwo > Kefka confirmed.
Lopen | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:33 PM | message detail
Link's Awakening > Majora's Mask makes a ton of sense. I've been saying it since the beginning of the contest, though I'll admit I haven't really been too vocal about it. You have to think proportionally to the system. Majora's Mask is way less important to the N64 than Link's Awakening to the GB. Now, you can claim the N64 is a bigger system-- but I'll disagree with you till the end on that.
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transience | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:55 PM | message detail
and if it does, the logical conclusion -

Mario Galaxy
Brawl
D/P
GTA4
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MetricTrout | Posted 4/22/2009 9:27:59 PM | message detail
How insane is it for a match with 4 Nintendo games to draw this many votes?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/22/2009 9:28:05 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #028
Perfect Dark is a steaming pile of convoluted dog crap which the developers tried to jam-pack full of useless crud.


I'd like logical reasoning; not subjective turtle bullcrap that you always throw out.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:28:11 PM | message detail
You people are insane and kind of scare me and I'd like to see pictures of the posters adoring the walls in your rooms just for shock value.

I've never owned RBY either!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 9:28:31 PM | message detail

From: transience | #067
here's an overreaction -

Mario Galaxy
D/P
Call of Duty 4
some other game I can't be bothered to remember

what happens?


Other game is TF2, and I'm liking Galaxy > D/P now
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:28:51 PM | message detail
If LA = MM, either FF6 has fallen off the face of the earth or RBY could challenge the likes of Chrono Trigger and Link to the Past.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:00 PM | message detail
Let's do some extrapolating.

Set MM equal to LA. Where does this put RBY?


Assuming a constant FFVI, Pokemon is now ahead of Final Fantasy VII
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greatone10 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:12 PM | message detail

From: transience | Posted: 4/22/2009 9:27:55 PM | #070
and if it does, the logical conclusion -

Mario Galaxy
Brawl
D/P
SF4


Fixed.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:15 PM | message detail

From: transience | #067
here's an overreaction -

Mario Galaxy
D/P
Call of Duty 4
some other game I can't be bothered to remember

what happens?


Yeah, I think it's going to be Mario Galaxy > D/P at this point. CoD4 very well could get into second but with D/P being the most recent Pokemon game, CoD4 is going to have it's hands full.

It's Team Fortress 2, by the way.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:17 PM | message detail
K, Albion you came close, but I still went higher and believed it. You were just pulling numbers for shock value and exaggeration.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:19 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #076
Let's do some extrapolating.

Set MM equal to LA. Where does this put RBY?


Assuming a constant FFVI, Pokemon is now ahead of Final Fantasy VII




... wha
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:40 PM | message detail
Even if Majora's Mask is seventh in Zelda standings, such a performance suggests (guarantees?) that Pokemon would be currently beating:

Link's Awakening
The Legend of Zelda
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess
Super Mario World

Basically, this makes it look rosy to beat anything not named "Ocarina, Link to the Past, Mario 3, or Super Mario Bros." And hell, it might take out three of those. I'm not going to make excuses here. This is an insane, almost scary performance.
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transience | Posted 4/22/2009 9:29:44 PM | message detail
Street Fighter 4 more like SF2 lite

which is like Mortal Kombat 2 lite

which is like, yeah
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greatone10 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:30:01 PM | message detail

From: M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted: 4/22/2009 9:28:51 PM | #075
If LA = MM, either FF6 has fallen off the face of the earth or RBY could challenge the likes of Chrono Trigger and Link to the Past.


FF6 falling off the face of the earth isn't that hard to believe. Look at Kefka in 2004 and Kefka in 2008.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 9:30:33 PM | message detail
If there's anything Pokemon that will be strong it's R/B/Y. All the kiddies that go to the site now grew up with that tripe when the fad was at it's peak. The only people who play the new Pokemon games are the 23 year old virgin neckbeards that live in their parents' basement.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/22/2009 9:30:41 PM | message detail

From: Lopen | #069
Link's Awakening > Majora's Mask makes a ton of sense. I've been saying it since the beginning of the contest, though I'll admit I haven't really been too vocal about it. You have to think proportionally to the system. Majora's Mask is way less important to the N64 than Link's Awakening to the GB. Now, you can claim the N64 is a bigger system-- but I'll disagree with you till the end on that.


MM was also released in the N64's final year, that's never a good sign for a game in a major franchise.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 9:30:45 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #081
Even if Majora's Mask is seventh in Zelda standings, such a performance suggests (guarantees?) that Pokemon would be currently beating:

Link's Awakening
The Legend of Zelda
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess
Super Mario World

Basically, this makes it look rosy to beat anything not named "Ocarina, Link to the Past, Mario 3, or Super Mario Bros." And hell, it might take out three of those. I'm not going to make excuses here. This is an insane, almost scary performance.


with how much its slaughtering MM, I wouldn't be surprised if it could take out LTTP and TP...
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 9:30:57 PM | message detail
K, Albion you came close, but I still went higher and believed it. You were just pulling numbers for shock value and exaggeration.

Give the guy some credit!

(Yes, we've become best friends ever since my brother talked to him about WoW)
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/22/2009 9:31:24 PM | message detail
FF6 falling off the face of the earth isn't that hard to believe. Look at Kefka in 2004 and Kefka in 2008.

Honestly, I wouldn't use Chokefka as a barometer for FF6.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:31:42 PM | message detail
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #080
If there's anything Pokemon that will be strong it's R/B/Y. All the kiddies that go to the site now grew up with that tripe when the fad was at it's peak. The only people who play the new Pokemon games are the 23 year old virgin neckbeards that live in their parents' basement.

I happen to live in on the second floor of the house thank you very much.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/22/2009 9:31:48 PM | message detail
I would take RBY over TP in a heartbeat after this. I don't care how weak MM may turn out to be, TP would not double it without SFF.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 9:32:01 PM | message detail

From: SonicRaptor | #085
MM was also released in the N64's final year, that's never a good sign for a game in a major franchise.


FF9 is so screwed
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:32:03 PM | message detail
Stop fluctuating in updates Pokemon your moving above and below FFVII with each update.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 9:33:33 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #090
I would take RBY over TP in a heartbeat after this. I don't care how weak MM may turn out to be, TP would not double it without SFF.


Yeah, there's no way. I'm not even sure LttP would. Majora's Mask is still putting up 70% on Perfect Dark, which actually looks pretty damned good until you look at the first place game.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:33:44 PM | message detail
Wow.

I wonder how people would react if pokemon RBY actually defeated FF7, OoT and Mario Bros 3 and won this contest?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:34:23 PM | message detail
MM's getting 70.83% on PD. Using 2004 SotN/PD match and SotN escaping a doubling from Mario 64, MM and SM64 would be pretty close, at least before SFF is considered.

There's no way in hell MM = SM64, but if it were...

So yeah, PD must be getting crushed by SFF right now, or it's really fallen into turbo-fodder territory.
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Achromatic | Posted 4/22/2009 9:34:40 PM | message detail
it won't

but its going to be a force.
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KingBartz | Posted 4/22/2009 9:34:57 PM | message detail
I wonder if Pokemon can keep this up to the ASV... we could see a doubling.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:35:32 PM | message detail
This is hilarious, and completely unexpected.

GO GO POKEMON WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING NOW!

I will gladly give up my chance at the prize to see Pokemon win the whole damn thing, even if I know it's not gonna happen.
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greatone10 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:35:42 PM | message detail

From: M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted: 4/22/2009 9:34:23 PM | #095
MM's getting 70.83% on PD. Using 2004 SotN/PD match and SotN escaping a doubling from Mario 64, MM and SM64 would be pretty close, at least before SFF is considered.

There's no way in hell MM = SM64, but if it were...

So yeah, PD must be getting crushed by SFF right now, or it's really fallen into turbo-fodder territory.


I think it's a little from Column A and a little of Column B with Perfect Dark becoming a Microsoft property also causing it to lose stock.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/22/2009 9:36:01 PM | message detail

From: KingBartz | #097
I wonder if Pokemon can keep this up to the ASV... we could see a doubling.


A doubling would be ****ing ridiculous at this point.

I'm all for it!
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