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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 685

red sox 777 | Posted 4/21/2009 10:47:26 PM | message detail
All the Mario/Crono matches were before the time change to midnight, and Mario won the board vote in 2005 by the way. With a 3 AM start time, Crono had very little time to improve with the night vote before Europe hit.

As for Crono/Bowser, that proves my point completely. Crono went up from around 60% with the power hour to over 62% overnight before falling back down. The fact that he lost the day vote horribly doesn't mean that the power hour was his best time.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/21/2009 10:50:18 PM | message detail
And there's Crono/Falcon, where Crono threatened to get 80% at one point, but Captain Falcon avoided a tripling.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/21/2009 10:54:56 PM | message detail
Besides, trends may have changed now that CTDS has come out, and from year-to-year variation, and it looks like they have (CT has never looked like FFVII in the opening before) and the best evidence for whether Crono rises or falls after the power hour in this match would be the actual data for this match. So, let's see, CT got:

Power Hour: 54.33%
First 50 Minutes of 2nd Hour: 57.15%

How CT does with Europe and the day vote remains to be seen, but it's pretty clear it's doing better with the night here than the power hour.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/21/2009 10:59:57 PM | message detail

From: Fayt_Esteed | #352
And there's Crono/Falcon, where Crono threatened to get 80% at one point, but Captain Falcon avoided a tripling.


thats also against a smash bros day vote
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/21/2009 11:00:06 PM | message detail
Though the question is, just how long will it (the boost) last for CT? I'm thinking about a couple years.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/21/2009 11:20:24 PM | message detail
I think Chrono Trigger's boost will go strong for at least two years. The more new gamers that are exposed to the DS remake/port over time will only further this. Not sure where ol' Crono will go after that though...
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/21/2009 11:27:35 PM | message detail
I say again, how are we supposed to explain this?? Is Yoshi's Island just plain weak? Or is there something else going on?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/21/2009 11:31:40 PM | message detail
finally a cut for EB
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/21/2009 11:51:38 PM | message detail
and CT is over 56%
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 12:20:10 AM | message detail
my god is earthbound bad at night
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 12:31:11 AM | message detail
CT can end this above 55%

this is kind of a huge overperformance.i looked at the oracle and most people actually had CT under 50%.
NewLib | Posted 4/22/2009 12:33:41 AM | message detail
Lufia got me interested in the other bad performances so far. I don't know if this was discussed before, but how the hell did Prince of Persia end up having the worst percentage so far?

You think the series recognition would have atleast had it do better than it do. I mean Crystalis got a better percentage and I say the competition was similar in two matches.
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alexazx | Posted 4/22/2009 12:36:35 AM | message detail
So...about tomorrow.

Perfect Dark>Pokemon = BIG mistake?

That's the first of my pick so far that I'm starting to question even before the match. Right now, Zelda:MM>Pokemon makes more sense to me, or maybe Pokemon>Zelda:MM.

So, who thinks PD got a shot in this match?
greatone10 | Posted 4/22/2009 12:37:00 AM | message detail
Either voters saw the difference between old school PoP and the new games, the Prince of Persia isn't all that well-liked on this site, or a little from both A and B. Crystalis at least enough rabid fans to avoid that low of a percentage.
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 12:37:32 AM | message detail
earthbound is getting murdered in this deep night vote

and at 3:00 CT got much stronger and has been pulling consistent 60% updates.
ffmasterjose | Posted 4/22/2009 12:41:30 AM | message detail
Franchise/name recognition would typically save some kind of face. But evidently, no one cares about the original Prince of Persia. I read a few posts from fans of the series/later games who even said they hated it it. And overall, its just not as relevant a series on GameFAQs anymore. The Prince of Persia (character) has only been in two un-winnable matches to date and as time goes on he's only going to decline.
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NP: Chrono Trigger > SMW 2: Yoshi's Island | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 12:45:27 AM | message detail
almost 65% that time... isn't this the very beginning of the europe vote?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 12:46:50 AM | message detail
I tried the original PoP after being amazed by The Sands of Time's quality. I found the original absolutely unplayable.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 12:47:32 AM | message detail
YEah, checking all of Cronos matches in 2008... He started going down between 3:30-4:00

Maybe CT DS did help?
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 12:47:59 AM | message detail
maybe CT completely reversed the situation and is now insanely strong on europe vote.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/22/2009 1:09:42 AM | message detail
Woohoo! Chrono Trigger is whooping some ass!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 1:10:13 AM | message detail
hmm maybe the europe collapse is starting. first loss of percentage for hours
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voltch | Posted 4/22/2009 1:12:04 AM | message detail
geez,now that crono is proving to be this good,LttP>VII seems back on.
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/22/2009 1:13:28 AM | message detail
It's still pulling in 56% updates. This isn't a drop off at all.

Wonder if CT:DS had an effect on CT's day too.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/22/2009 1:14:26 AM | message detail
Looks like Yoshi's Island is starting to really put some distance between it and Earthbound. Still, it won't end up looking much stronger than 2K4 Doom, and that's assuming Earthbound stayed constant and that neither CT nor YI are SFFing Earthbound. It's really, really hard to buy all three scenarios, which makes YI continue to look nice and pathetic.
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/22/2009 1:14:50 AM | message detail
THERE we go!

Only 53% that time!
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 4/22/2009 1:22:23 AM | message detail
Leave YI alone, like you would do any better in this poll.


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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 1:24:30 AM | message detail
looks like europe vote still sucks. whatever...it rose way more than usual before reaching the doomed hour(s). I think CT can still finish above 55%
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 1:25:39 AM | message detail
theres a 61% update during europe time
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 1:26:03 AM | message detail
and just as i say that it gets a 61% update.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/22/2009 1:35:56 AM | message detail
CT is back to ass kicking :) last 3 updates over 60%
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Mr3790 | Posted 4/22/2009 1:51:20 AM | message detail
Cool, FFVII>CT doesn't look quite as stupid now!
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__hiei__ | Posted 4/22/2009 1:58:08 AM | message detail
well look at that

Chrono trigger dominated the european vote.

and we'll be passing 57% soon.
greatone10 | Posted 4/22/2009 2:49:36 AM | message detail
Looks like CTDS may have patched up the Europe vote, although a poll with two SNES RPGs and a third tier Nintendo game may not be much competition though.
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/22/2009 3:06:12 AM | message detail
Here comes the Mario morning vote!

Huh, 65 votes for YI in each of the last 3 updates.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 4:00:32 AM | message detail
Heh, looks like this was more Yoshi's Island sucking than Earthbound being worth a damn. It should get under 15% by the end of the match while Yoshi should stabilize or go up from here.
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transience | Posted 4/22/2009 4:37:24 AM | message detail
....holy **** Chrono Trigger
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/22/2009 4:44:46 AM | message detail
I wouldn't call this being a "patched up" Europe vote just yet. I mean, look at what Chrono Trigger's facing.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/22/2009 4:49:00 AM | message detail
Heh. In light of this, I'd take Mario 2 to beat Yoshi's Island. It wouldn't be struggling with frigging EARTHBOUND, of all games. I'll say it again: Yosih's Island is looking TERRIBLE.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/22/2009 4:51:28 AM | message detail
I think Perfect Dark is gonna surprise tomorrow.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/22/2009 4:52:59 AM | message detail
Maybe it could. Maybe it won't. After seeing Castlevania and Goldeneye, my opinion on their strengths possibly being lower than I thought in 2004 and Secret of Mana being SFF'd that much makes Pokemon seem easy even if Zelda is there.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/22/2009 4:55:33 AM | message detail
I also think Majora's Mask is gonna look beastly in this next match. Near 50%.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/22/2009 4:58:27 AM | message detail
Near 50%? I really doubt that. Banjo is the only notable fodder in this match.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 4/22/2009 4:59:51 AM | message detail
But yeah, I can't really take much from this match as to what this means for CT's Eurpoe vote. After all its competition is pathetic.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/22/2009 5:14:13 AM | message detail
Banjo and Perfect Dark will probably get 10% and 15%, MM and R/B/Y will probably split the rest 45-30
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/22/2009 5:14:30 AM | message detail
I can't see Pokemon getting over 25-26% with a ZELDA game in the poll.

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red sox 777 | Posted 4/22/2009 5:19:26 AM | message detail
Ha, CT didn't lose any ground with the Europe vote! Now let's see it do the same with the day vote. Meanwhile, YI doesn't look so pathetic anymore now that Earthbound has collapsed- YI is up to 58.63% on EB now, ahead of Doom, and it should continue gaining on it for pretty much the rest of the poll. I told you guys CTDS was going to create a massive boost.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/22/2009 5:21:19 AM | message detail
Holy **** @ CT.

One of my upset picks was FF7 > SM64 in Round 3. I guess I can kiss those points goodbye.
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The_Doom_Dealer | Posted 4/22/2009 5:22:10 AM | message detail
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/22/2009 5:22:36 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #397
I told you guys CTDS was going to create a massive boost.


You're kidding, right?

I know you're a CT fan and all but would you really gauge CT based on these games? .. Really? 78% on EB is around expected, and it STILL lost ground from the night vote... just not terrible. But how can it when only YI can take percentage?
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