GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 683
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/20/2009 2:49:46 PM | message detail |
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From: HaRRicH | #345 The problem with Oregon Trail and Tecmo Super Bowl is that nobody has even heard of them here, Earthbound and Chrono Trigger are at least recognizable. --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/20/2009 2:53:17 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart has definitely been the star of the contest so far, Sonic
gets excused for his 4-way bizarreness but Super Metroid had no such
excuse and SMK went dead even with it. And today MK64 is putting up a
similar figure on FFVII that MGS did while
getting leeched by Star Fox. It's looking like a pretty powerful series
in this, perhaps in the bracket of Metroid, Sonic and Mega Man. --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/20/2009 2:55:33 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart probably underperformed in the series contest due to
respect, or having a lot more casual votes. SSB has casual votes as
well, but a lot of the fanbase are hardcore period. Choosing between franchises is a broad concept for many voters; but individual games is more exact which is why they may overperform in comparison to the series. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVII > MK64 - Points: 38/52 Vote: MK64 |
| Internet_Warbot | Posted 4/20/2009 2:57:14 PM | message detail |
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I definitely follow that, I was a FF7 voter today but switch MK64 with SMK and you could be sure I'd be switching votes. =) --- Hey you, get offa my cloud! - Mario |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/20/2009 3:11:04 PM | message detail |
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Halo Mario Kart 64 Metal Gear Solid 3 Diablo 2 MK64 > D2 > MGS3 > Halo is my first instinct --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:13:33 PM | message detail |
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I hope the people saying Diablo 2 beats MGS3/Halo also have WoW advancing in its match, because WoW >>> Diablo 2 --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/20/2009 3:19:50 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #356 Based on.. ? --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVII > MK64 - Points: 38/52 Vote: MK64 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:21:05 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #357 WoW has 5 times the amount of players, is regarded higher by blizzard fans, the series contest, and higher rallying power. Starcraft/WoW is in debate, but I think most people in the know of Blizzard games can agree Diablo 2 would be last of the big 3. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/20/2009 3:21:13 PM | message detail |
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The fact that he's a WoW fanboy. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/20/2009 3:22:41 PM | message detail |
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I find that most Mario Kart games have a good deal of overlap among
fans. Sure everyone has their favourite, but each game is usually well
liked. While something like Mega Man or Final Fantasy have their fair
share of unique fans and haters. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > MK64 Points: 37/52 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:24:04 PM | message detail |
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Not to mention WoW got 39th on "The List" back when it was an infant.
The time the list was made, WoW had about 2 million subscribers. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/20/2009 3:25:32 PM | message detail |
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You can't really look at the series contest because it was "Warcraft"; meaning, not all of it was World of Warcraft. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVII > MK64 - Points: 38/52 Vote: MK64 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:26:17 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #362 Warcraft was a distant third of the big 3 Blizzard series prior to WoW. All of Warcrafts strength essentially IS WoW. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Sonic_Factor | Posted 4/20/2009 3:26:43 PM | message detail |
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looks like ff7 will go below 55 for a bit perhaps.. No biggie, ASV has like an hour left.. then back up for ff7 --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/20/2009 3:27:40 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy VIII SoulCalibur Starcraft Xenogears Chrono Cross Final Fantasy IX Half-Life Zelda: Ocarina of Time Final Fantasy XII Half-Life 2 Phoenix Wright Zelda: Twilight Princess Call of Duty 4 Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Super Mario Galaxy Team Fortress 2 Based on what we've seen up until now, how would you say each match goes? FF8>Starcraft OoT>FFIX TP>HL2 (hesitantly) SMG>CoD4 --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:28:08 PM | message detail |
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WoW has 5 times the amount of players, is regarded higher by blizzard fans, the series contest, and higher rallying power. Starcraft/WoW is in debate, but I think most people in the know of Blizzard games can agree Diablo 2 would be last of the big 3. I don't think WoW has 5 times as many players. Blizzard's most recent numbers have the Diablo series at ~18.5 million. Even if you split it in half and half, that's still ~9.25 million per game and its expansion, and I'd bet on Diablo II having at least slightly more sales than the original Diablo. If WoW has a sales advantage, it is a relatively small one. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:28:26 PM | message detail |
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FF8 > Starcraft OoT > FF9 TP > HL2 SMG > Pokemon D/P --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:28:59 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #366 Well, I meant active players. Diablo 2s current active players is no higher then 2-2.5 million. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/20/2009 3:29:42 PM | message detail |
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Blizzard's most recent numbers have the Diablo series at ~18.5 million. Even if you split it in half and half, that's still ~9.25 million per game and its expansion, and I'd bet on Diablo II having at least slightly more sales than the original Diablo. Diablo 2 outsold the first one by a lot. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:30:08 PM | message detail |
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Well, I meant active players. Diablo 2s current active players is no higher then 2-2.5 million. Ah. Even then, I don't think that number is particularly significant. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:32:14 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #370 When it comes to rallying, it is. Active players are much more likely to rally then non active players. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:33:23 PM | message detail |
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Diablo 2 outsold the first one by a lot. Do you have exact numbers? The only numbers I can find are those for the first year or two of sale (for the individual games), unfortunately, while Blizzard just combines the two when talking about the franchise's sales. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/20/2009 3:33:58 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #363 A distant third.. where? If it's not on GameFAQs, this doesn't prove anything. Sales are irrelevant as well. I just take a look at polls and series; Diablo is about as big as Warcraft in 2006's series contest, and it's only running on one game. Warcraft was running on RTS and WoW which still has a low base. Rallying can come from both sides, but at least Diablo II fans would have the time to! --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVII > MK64 - Points: 38/52 Vote: MK64 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:34:44 PM | message detail |
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I know Diablo 2 sold over 10 million. But in comparison, if the stats
of non active subscriptions are right for WoW, it has sold about 17-18
million (It has 11.5 million now, but stats say that 40% of people who
have bought wow no longer have an active subscription) --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:35:57 PM | message detail |
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When it comes to rallying, it is. Active players are much more likely to rally then non active players. ... Right - I just don't see rallying as being a very significant part of StarCraft or Diablo II's potential strength; lobbying on Battle.net (e.g. talking in the big Channels) is not likely to garner very many votes, I don't think. WoW probably has more upside simply due to the community aspect of it, if some of the larger Guilds or WoW-related websites got interested in the contest, I suppose, but I'm not expecting it. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:36:18 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #373 In the blizzard fanbase, it was all about starcraft and diablo until WoW came out. WC3 was seen as a poor mans Starcraft that didn't get alot of respect among the fans. Not to mention WC3 only sold about 2 million compared to over 10 million for both D2 and Starcraft. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:37:41 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #375 Well, I've already started making an alt on every server to post about voting for it on trade channel. Not to mention places like WoW Insider are likely going to link to it (They link to most contests WoW is up for), and other sites may as well. I was able to get at least 1000 votes for Hogger just by bumping a topic on MMO Champion, so I don't see 10k or more out of the question if the WoW fanbase really tries to rally. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:41:53 PM | message detail |
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In the blizzard fanbase, it was all about starcraft and diablo until
WoW came out. WC3 was seen as a poor mans Starcraft that didn't get
alot of respect among the fans. Not to mention WC3 only sold about 2
million compared to over 10 million for both D2 and Starcraft. Eh? In 2006, Vivendi said that the WarCraft series, separate from World of WarCraft, was at 19 million - and WarCraft III alone (not The Frozen Throne) shipped with 5 million copies. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:45:04 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #378 Seriously? Last I saw it was at 2 million and was a bust in general compared to the other big series from Blizzard. Maybe I had a bad source since checking Wiki, they say it sold 4.5 million... still, its not at the level of the bigger series though --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:47:53 PM | message detail |
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Seriously? Last I saw it was at 2 million and was a bust in general
compared to the other big series from Blizzard. Maybe I had a bad
source since checking Wiki, they say it sold 4.5 million... still, its
not at the level of the bigger series though Seriously. StarCraft and StarCraft: Brood War are at 11 million; Diablo series is at 18.5 million (as of the announcement of Diablo III), WarCraft is at 19 million (as of 2006), and World of WarCraft... I can't find "sales" numbers, just subscriber numbers, but it's around the level as Diablo or WarCraft [RTS] series. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 3:52:30 PM | message detail |
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But with the series contest, Warcraft would still beat Diablo 60-40%,
and this is back when WoW had only 1/3rd of its current subscribers.
I'd say now it would beat Diablo at least 65%, and thats a big enough
difference to show WoW > Diablo 2. My reasoning at least. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:57:03 PM | message detail |
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But with the series contest, Warcraft would still beat Diablo
60-40%, and this is back when WoW had only 1/3rd of its current
subscribers. I'd say now it would beat Diablo at least 65%, and thats a
big enough difference to show WoW > Diablo 2. My reasoning at least. What are you basing that on? --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/20/2009 3:57:17 PM | message detail |
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But with the series contest, Warcraft would still beat Diablo
60-40%, and this is back when WoW had only 1/3rd of its current
subscribers. I'd say now it would beat Diablo at least 65%, and thats a
big enough difference to show WoW > Diablo 2. It usually isn't true, but I think this is a case where "lol x-stats" is applicable. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/20/2009 3:57:23 PM | message detail |
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I put faith in Diablo 2 to do a little shake up but honestly, it hasn't
done anything impressive. Diablo in the character contest is about all
its done, and it still lost to Arthas. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/20/2009 3:58:33 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart probably underperformed in the series contest due to
respect, or having a lot more casual votes. SSB has casual votes as
well, but a lot of the fanbase are hardcore period. SSB was also very hot from E3. It got 35% against SMB and Solid Snake made it to Day Four of the Battle Royale for a reason. Though SSB > MK should be a fact until further notice, I wonder how far apart they really are. MK's series is a generation older, has several more games on both consoles and handhelds, and has its biggest hit on the Virtual Console as opposed to SSB not having anything on it. SSBM > MK64 (and probably SSBB, too), but I;d like to see them compete against each other now that SSBB is out and neither of them are waiting on new games. In fact, I'd like to see a new Nintendo-poll about the series; this is the most recent one we have, which was six months before the Gamecube even came out: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 Replace F-Zero with MK, SF with SSB, DK with DKC, and let's see what happens when Pokemon has a resurgence, Metroid gets the MP-games, Mario gets Galaxy (...and Sunshine), LoZ gets Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, and Fire Emblem gets some American releases after its introduction in SSBM. I'd like to see how it changes, at least...and maybe LoZ will finally drop below 50%! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 3:59:49 PM | message detail |
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I put faith in Diablo 2 to do a little shake up but honestly, it
hasn't done anything impressive. Diablo in the character contest is
about all its done, and it still lost to Arthas. And StarCraft produced Kerrigan. <_< --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 4:01:31 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #386 That arguement does nothing but pump up what WoW can do since Arthas > Kerrigan in strength --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
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| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 4:03:54 PM | message detail |
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That arguement does nothing but pump up what WoW can do since Arthas > Kerrigan in strength ... The argument was mostly that Blizzard games and characters seem to have very incongruous strengths in these contests, not that they will scale so that Arthas : World of WarCraft :: Kerrigan : StarCraft or something. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 4:05:04 PM | message detail |
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From: Mumei | #389 But if Kerrigan is able to be so weak with a strong game, why not Arthas when neither game is character driven? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/20/2009 4:06:53 PM | message detail |
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Surprisingly, the only Blizzard game I have making an early exit is
Starcraft. I don't feel very good about it now, either. Half-Life needs
to be there, and my confidence in that isn't as high after these first
two weeks. Chrono Cross needs to keep from completely dying, and
Ocarina needs to murder the poll. I still think there's a plausible chance, though, especially since we've seen Half-Life before and it wasn't bad. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 4:10:17 PM | message detail |
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But if Kerrigan is able to be so weak with a strong game, why not Arthas when neither game is character driven? I don't doubt that Arthas is much weaker than his games, really; I'm just unconvinced that Arthas is as weak relative to his games as Kerrigan is relative to hers. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 4:10:51 PM | message detail |
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Half Life games should be the strongest non Goldeneye FPS. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/20/2009 4:11:14 PM | message detail |
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From: The n00b Avenger | #384 There's a poll somewhere that has Diablo beating the Elder Scrolls by a good bit, which got 35% on Street Fighter. With that said, Diablo as a game must have some serious power if one game can carry a series that far. We've seen what it's done with Mario Kart... which essentially only had 2 games in that series contest at the time. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVII > MK64 - Points: 38/52 Vote: MK64 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/20/2009 4:12:26 PM | message detail |
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Half Life games should be the strongest non Goldeneye FPS. HL2* --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/20/2009 4:13:00 PM | message detail |
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From: XxSoulxX | #395 I meant both Half Life games. Aka stronger then the Halos, dooms etc --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png Starcraft >= Diablo 2 > The Lost Vikings 2 >> trash >>>> World of Warcraft |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/20/2009 4:16:29 PM | message detail |
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Oh, whoops. Missed that extra s in there. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/20/2009 4:22:46 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #396 I'm willing to accept it right now, though if Halo 1 (which is usually thought more highly of) has some hidden strength it wouldn't surprise me. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/20/2009 4:24:33 PM | message detail |
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(which is usually thought more highly of) Only to non-FPS fans. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| Mumei | Posted 4/20/2009 4:45:38 PM | message detail |
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There's a poll somewhere that has Diablo beating the Elder Scrolls by a good bit, which got 35% on Street Fighter. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2794 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2439 None of the Blizzard games involved in game of the year polls seem to look very good at all, incidentally. 4 - 10%-ish. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
