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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 682

transience | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:26 PM | message detail
yeah, this was over from the first minute. but I think most people are judging Goldeneye off Mario RPG and not even worrying about RE2 at this point.

007/MK64/SMRPG/FF7 is just a weird match.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:27 PM | message detail
Jesus Christ DKC2.

You obviously weren't going to be as strong as DKC, but how the heck does SMRPG SFF you better than LTTP?

King of SFF lives again !!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:29 PM | message detail
Mario RPG is awesome while SF2 and Goldeneye are overrated.

GameFAQs is showing once again that it has better taste than I give them credit for.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:33 PM | message detail
Yoblazer, why are you whining so much this contest? :-/ Mario RPG is awesome! Now if this was Paper Mario then its a different story!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:45 PM | message detail
Why would Mario RPG bury Goldeneye 007 in the day vote? It would win it, yeah, but bury?

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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:46 PM | message detail
You mean James Bond, not Pierce Brosnan.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:49 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #146
Goldeneye has this. Mario RPG is going to die as badly as Chrono Trigger does in Europe.


http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=1637&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Meh, seems it did a bit better in europe then CT.
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ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 9:12:52 PM | message detail
now that this looks let's hurry and get to the real match tomorrow who's ready for the FFVII domination

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:13:31 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #155
Why would Mario RPG bury Goldeneye 007 in the day vote? It would win it, yeah, but bury?


doom lost the day vote to dkc
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:13:33 PM | message detail

From: MnMZero | #154
Now if this was Paper Mario then its a different story!


... :( But...

It'd be awesome to see PM as strong as this.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 9:13:36 PM | message detail
Mario RPG is average, and should be in last if this was a true BGE poll.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/18/2009 9:13:42 PM | message detail
Yeah, but if Mario RPG can survive until morning, it's OVER.

And after seeing Mario RPG this close to GoldenEye, we can surmise one of several things:

1. GoldenEye didn't actually get SFF'd after all and its high placing on The List was due to the format and the smaller audience
2. Street Fighter II has weakened since 2004
3. Super Mario RPG has gotten stronger since 2004 (which makes sense, honestly, since this site is still more Nintendo-oriented than it was back then, even though less so than 2 years ago)
4. It's pointless to compare these matches to old matches because everything ends up making no sense anyway


1. It's pretty likely. I've always felt that people were overestimating Goldeneye by quite a bit when it really has no reason to be a top tier game.
2. Pretty likely
3. Yes indeed. Notice that Geno first made the contest in 2005 with the Nintendo boost.
4. Bingo. Especially with the demographic shifts, and higher votals now.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/18/2009 9:13:49 PM | message detail
For shame on all of everyone.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:14:30 PM | message detail
i'm ready for mario kart 64 to make ff7 look bad
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Match 13 - Bracket: GoldenEye > RE2 - Vote: GE (36/48)
transience | Posted 4/18/2009 9:14:35 PM | message detail
we need to stop screaming SFF when a game is outclassed.

DKC2 is outclassed here. DKC1 wasn't because there was only one game of strength.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:14:46 PM | message detail
Actually, awesome is an overstatement. Mario RPG is one of the weaker Mario RPG games (Only PiT is worse, and Super Paper Mario if you really want to count it), though it's still a solid game, and much better than the games it's facing tonight (granted, haven't played RE2, but considering the survival horror genre takes pride in having crappy gameplay, I'll consider it safe to say SMRPG's probably better).
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ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:09 PM | message detail
time to kick moltar offa this train

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NewLib | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:39 PM | message detail
Hopefully, I am right with how much stronger I think RE4 is compared to RE/RE2
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:43 PM | message detail
Come on DKC2 break 10%
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BGE2 - Today's Match: GoldenEye 007 > SMRPG Points: 33/48
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:47 PM | message detail
22 people fell off the Top 50 today. LittleConqueror, Mister_Vimes, alxexperience, menji76, spikevegeta, LinkLegend27, bakaorochizz, LazyVeysey, RainyLeon, SeventeenLeaves, OtaconHAL, nitethatsaysni, Piazza31, TheCodefinder, Spekku, somberfox, Biaz, premodern, kev_13, ShadowHog, Bubben0 and amikokyra did not have Sonic 2 > MK2 as yesterday's winners.

7 people scored half points and survived. Interceptor18, ULT1MA, SardonicSoul, nf1, K1lr0y, killdacate and supremeragnorak also did not have Sonic 2 > MK2 as yesterday's winners.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:48 PM | message detail
who needs a train when you got a kart
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Match 13 - Bracket: GoldenEye > RE2 - Vote: GE (36/48)
MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:15:50 PM | message detail

From: transience | #165
we need to stop screaming SFF when a game is outclassed.


I guess so.. though SMRPG is nearing a triple on it.
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BGE2 - Today: GE007 > SMRPG - Points: 34/48 Vote: SMRPG
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:16:24 PM | message detail
yeah, this match is done

next
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/18/2009 9:16:30 PM | message detail
I'm still holding out for a Star Fox upset, but SMK almost beating Super Metroid doesn't inspire much confidence =(
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/18/2009 9:16:34 PM | message detail
For once yo i disagree with you. The 2 games that should advance will, though not necessarily in the right order.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 9:16:35 PM | message detail
This also makes me wary of...just about every match I have where I made decisions based on LFF.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:16:51 PM | message detail
FFs looking weak plus huge Nintendo franchise voting = Mario Kart 64 > FF7 next match believe.

And my bracket with Brawl winning it all doesn't seem so impossible now after all! Only very ****ing unlikely!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:17:03 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #176
This also makes me wary of...just about every match I have where I made decisions based on LFF.


OoT > FF9 son
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:17:15 PM | message detail
From: transience | #165
we need to stop screaming SFF when a game is outclassed.


I guess so.. though SMRPG is nearing a triple on it.


SMRPG > LttP, GoldenEye 007 for 2k9 champ!
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BGE2 - Today's Match: GoldenEye 007 > SMRPG Points: 33/48
ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 9:17:26 PM | message detail
blue shells sorry can't hear you over all this BUSTER SWORD

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:18:17 PM | message detail

From: Chaotic Mind | #175
For once yo i disagree with you. The 2 games that should advance will, though not necessarily in the right order.


Sounds about right. Goldeneye's gotta be better than Baby's First Platformer 2 and Bad Controls Are What Makes It Fun! 2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 9:18:24 PM | message detail
we need to stop screaming SFF when a game is outclassed.

Which is basically what we did all of 2004, and look what's happening now!!
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/18/2009 9:18:25 PM | message detail
So, DKC2 has bombed. Looks like its true, having the board's love means jack squat when push comes to shove.

Then, RE2 has gone and either laid an egg or underperformed terribly. Why do I feel like we can call quite a few matches that will come later on using these results?
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/18/2009 9:18:35 PM | message detail
I hope everyone realizes I'm just messing around here.



Because wait until you see RE2's vicious night vote. Ain't over yet.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/18/2009 9:18:55 PM | message detail
Black Turdle, be quiet. You missed my point entirely.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:19:11 PM | message detail
and yeah, this is both DKC being outclassed AND being sff'd

Its a ***** being on the bottom of the SFF totem poll
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MnMZero | Posted 4/18/2009 9:19:33 PM | message detail
Can't let you do that Cloud Strife
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:20:12 PM | message detail
Ocarina has ordered us to take you down!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 9:20:50 PM | message detail
Looks like Mario RPG's trying to stall. Hold on 'til morning and survive Europe! Darn those Europeans and love for their own!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:20:50 PM | message detail
Stop dropping GoldenEye!
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BGE2 - Today's Match: GoldenEye 007 > SMRPG Points: 33/48
transience | Posted 4/18/2009 9:20:53 PM | message detail
here comes RE2. I figure this'll end somewhere around 36/30/23/11.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/18/2009 9:20:53 PM | message detail
Sephy, long time no see!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/18/2009 9:21:25 PM | message detail
Why do I feel like we can call quite a few matches that will come later on using these results?

If your title has a "Final Fantasy, Zelda, or Mario" in the title, you're likely set?

FFVIII > MGS
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 9:21:57 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:02 PM | message detail
Also, another thing to keep in mind with this contest...Some of these matches are going to get twice as many votes as some matches in the first Games Contest did. The fact that vote totals are that much higher means the results are not going to corroborate.

See: Sephiroth/Mega Man I and Sephiroth/Mega Man II
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:20 PM | message detail
SMRPG is also doubling RE2..

Hmm.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:21 PM | message detail
Hey, for all the skepticism of Goldeneye being SFFed in 2004, SMRPG was supposed to 55-45 it by the 2k4 stats - and it itself was SFFed by CT! I'll chalk this up as vindication... empty, empty vindications...
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ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:24 PM | message detail
Ha. Star Fox zone

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:28 PM | message detail
hey yo, are we gonna see some re2 "spikes" tonight
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 9:22:40 PM | message detail
OoT>FFIX aw yeah

TP>FFXII aw no

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