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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 681
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:41:21 PM | message detail |
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Rinoa and Seifer are very important to the plot as well. I'd say Rinoa
plays the biggest role of any FF girl outside of Yuna for the 3D FFs --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 5:42:16 PM | message detail |
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Rinoa plays a big role, but she's also probably the most hated female lead in the series. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 5:43:07 PM | message detail |
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And for good reason! --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 5:46:15 PM | message detail |
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It's not that other characters weren't important, but Squall is the
real driving force behind the story. That's one situation where it
makes sense for him to be so much more popular than the second
strongest of the cast. Although Rinoa's probably not what you want to look at when it comes to characters in the contest. She's probably one of the least liked FF characters I can think of. It's like asking why we haven't seen Cait Sith yet. Why Seifer hasn't managed to get in, though, I have no idea. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 5:52:50 PM | message detail |
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Seifer's probably the most surprising snub I've seen. He's been rallied
for how many times and hasn't even made a 128 bracket? And he's a
pretty big character throughout the game, too. Though I really doubt he'd be that strong now. I'd predict him to be around Vivi's level at this point, maybe even lower. Definitely not as strong as he would've been a few years ago. Squall's strength is really an enigma. FF8 is relatively well-liked but not exactly FF6 or FF10-level, yet Squall easily creams those characters besides possibly Auron. KH may be a big factor in his strength, but he'd have no trouble crushing Sora. It's pretty interesting how Squall manages to be so strong. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:55:01 PM | message detail |
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Squall has everything you'd want in a popular character. A FF Villain
with a sword, good character design, badass personality... I don't see
how he wouldn't be at Auron level. It just baffles me how he doesn't
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| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:56:18 PM | message detail |
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Er, Seifer has everything you'd want, Not Squall >_>; --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| andylt | Posted 4/18/2009 5:56:48 PM | message detail |
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I thought it seemed like there was a series cap for Final Fantasy characters last time. --- I'm pretty sure I don't need FastFalcon in my sig anymore. |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/18/2009 5:57:09 PM | message detail |
| Him wanting to tell people about his ROMANTIC DREAM! probably puts possible nominators off. That must be the worst line ever in an FF game, even worse than FF7's "Shiny, golden wire of hope". :p |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:57:29 PM | message detail |
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If there is a series cap... ditch one of the FF4 characters and add seifer. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 5:58:42 PM | message detail |
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Time for the Guru winner to pick Seifer. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:59:05 PM | message detail |
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Watch, we finally get Seifer in the field one of these years, and this'll be the pic he gets to screw him over: http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/kh2-seifer-a.jpg --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:01:11 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and on a slightly different topic Secret of mana AND mk2 just cut sonic lol sonic --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 6:02:26 PM | message detail |
| Pre-KH Squall ain't really all that - at least
judging by his one and only match, which may not be exactly fair to
him. But considering that Seifer should have been significantly weaker
than that Squall at his peak, and that he should have suffered a
dropoff in strength on top of that... I'm not sure why we've spent so
much time and energy to get Seifer in, truly. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 4/18/2009 6:03:38 PM | message detail |
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I have a feeling SMRPG is taking 1st next match. --- [ FINAL FOUR ] FFVII / SMB3 / LoZ: OoT / MGS http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=161 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:03:54 PM | message detail |
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2002 we really didn't know how strong he was. He was pitted against Solid Snake round 1 in an obvious loss, afterall. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 6:04:23 PM | message detail |
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Him wanting to tell people about his ROMANTIC DREAM! probably puts possible nominators off. Only to be topped by...Seifer of all people in KHII! "That was undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers!" And I'm not even sure Seifer would be second strongest. Laguna or even Zell could be second strongest. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=846 Squall is easily first, and Zell is easily second. Everyone else is in the same general range (with Seifer a little above the rest) except for Selphie in dead last. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 6:05:05 PM | message detail |
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Didn't people say Snake only getting 65% on Squall in 2002 was disappointing...? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:05:45 PM | message detail |
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Hahaha, I'm gonna pick Selphie as my Guru pick now. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:05:48 PM | message detail |
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Squall (2002c) VS Dante (2002c) Squall has a strength of 24.36. Dante has a strength of 25.02. Dante wins with 51.32% of the vote! A win of 1,814 with 68,760 total votes cast. Squall was already at Dante level in 2002. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| transience | Posted 4/18/2009 6:05:58 PM | message detail |
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take Rinoa before Seifer. Rinoa's got a better chance of being strong. Seifer is just fodder line at best. --- xyzzy |
| KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/18/2009 6:06:09 PM | message detail |
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"Watch, we finally get Seifer in the field one of these years, and this'll be the pic he gets to screw him over: http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/kh2-seifer-a.jpg" Hey, that's a pic of Beat from The World Ends With You, not Seifer. Seriously, Seifer looks TERRIBLE there. Even old Big Boss would be less screwed by pic factor than him. |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 6:06:12 PM | message detail |
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Seifer's a better choice to rally behind than most of the characters
that end up getting support around here. He wouldn't be fodder I don't
think, but he probably wouldn't be significantly stronger than that
either. The only real characters with strength left to get in a contest
are all from FFVII. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| andylt | Posted 4/18/2009 6:06:25 PM | message detail |
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Squall fans are probably more likely to be fans of Seifer and Laguna
than Irvine or the girls, so there could be some in-game SFF there
>_> --- I'm pretty sure I don't need FastFalcon in my sig anymore. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 6:07:20 PM | message detail |
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Goldeneye's performance next match will gauge exactly what my
expectations are for the original MGS - those two games have pretty
much been tied at the hip for their contest parallels up until now. If
it rocks the house - which it should - I'll be feeling very good about
MGS1, especially considering the caliber of its opponents' strength. If
it underperforms or even comes under pressure from losing, though, I'll
be wary of... ...Pokemon G/S/C? You better kill this ****ing poll, GE. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:08:05 PM | message detail |
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Seifer would double Rinoa. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 6:08:11 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I don't think another FFVIII character would really do that well, but I just want to see one. Since I'm probably not winning the Guru, it's up to someone else! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 6:08:47 PM | message detail |
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Squall was already at Dante level in 2002. Being at 2k2 Dante level isn't much of anything to crow about. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:09:13 PM | message detail |
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And looking at old 2002 Xstats... Ken Masters (2002c) has a strength of 28.49 against Base Link. THIS is why we need Ken back in damnit!! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 6:09:15 PM | message detail |
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If it underperforms or even comes under pressure from losing, though, I'll be wary of... ...Pokemon G/S/C? ...What are you talking about? Pokemon G/S won't even be in contention. FFT is the only game MGS has to worry about, and even then, it doesn't have much to worry about that, I think. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:11:01 PM | message detail |
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Kind of a shame Pokemon GSC is wasted against two big names that are
also having an epic rematch, but then it's probably the weakest of the
Pokemon entries in this contest anyway. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:11:48 PM | message detail |
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I still don't see how its a lock that FFT beats Pokemon >_> --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 6:12:33 PM | message detail |
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FFT would have to fall really hard in order for Pokemon G/S/C to win that one. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:14:08 PM | message detail |
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Are we using the strength of pokemon in 2004 when it was anti voted to hell to write it off? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 6:14:59 PM | message detail |
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Anti-votes won't take you from a loss to Xenogears to a Final Fantasy
title. I'm sorry. If FFT loses that, it's because it fell off; not
because Pokemon gained enough to compete with it. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:16:14 PM | message detail |
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http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Fox_McCloud_vs_Pikachu_2003 http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Crono_vs_Pikachu_vs_L-Block_vs_Alucard_2008 actually, it could --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/18/2009 6:16:36 PM | message detail |
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I picked Zelda: MM > MGS in that one. I think MGS is a little stronger now that MGS4 has gotten such praise and success. As for MM, I took a gamble by having it go on to face OOT in Round 3. LA did very well given that it is a portable title and took down MMX with relative ease. MM is a console Zelda game, a pretty well-received one and has a cult following in the Zelda fanbase. I think everyone was counting MM out when brackets were being made. I don't think FFT can take either of them on, though it is a risk and I accept it. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 6:17:02 PM | message detail |
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Weren't people saying that Pokemon games aren't really that popular after R/B/Y? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 6:17:16 PM | message detail |
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Games, characters etc. G/S/C is hardly representative of Pikachu. Try Mewtwo, and then consider the fact that he's from R/B/Y. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 6:18:02 PM | message detail |
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I have almost 100% confidence in FFT not placing in that particular
match... but that's not really here nor there when it comes to
discussing MGS's path (it should place, methinks). This is all pretty much prologue to seeing if it can stop StarCraft's run. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:18:33 PM | message detail |
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We don't have any data of Mewtwo in 1v1 format. But the point is that over the years both Pokemon has become more accepted instead of hated, and the format prevents anti voting from being very succesful Both things that will make the pokemon games forces to be reckoned with. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/18/2009 6:18:39 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartFour | #388 In the contest there was some debate after G/S/C bombed in 2004. Though I think now nostalgia is kicking in and people think more favorably of the Pokemon games. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/18/2009 6:19:43 PM | message detail |
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| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 6:20:37 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #391 I like how you went from Pikachu in 1vs1 to Pikachu in 4-ways and then telling me "well we've never seen Mewtwo in 1vs1" Mewtwo was barely a force to be reckoned with, btw. The point still stands that characters have nothing to do with games, and G/S/C isn't going to go heads and shoulders above Xenogears. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:21:23 PM | message detail |
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G/S/C isn't going to go heads and shoulders above Xenogears. In 4ways, it would without question. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:21:38 PM | message detail |
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I think strength-wise it'd be RBY > DPP > GSC > RSE. Too bad RBY's the only one with a chance of advancing. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 6:22:13 PM | message detail |
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And also theres a reason it took 7 contests to get Mewtwo in. He's not
the face of Pokemon, nor a very popular pokemon at all compared to
Pikachu. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/18/2009 6:22:14 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #395 Indeed, at this point Xenogears is a RPG with a cult fanbase ever since the Xenogears series went out with a whimper. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:22:44 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1641 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1653 What would FFT have gotten had it beaten MGS, I wonder? --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 6:22:45 PM | message detail |
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Though GSC > FFT would be hilarious. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
