GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 681
| transience | Posted 4/18/2009 3:28:39 PM | message detail |
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Soul has always argued hard for his opinions and comes off as being a
bit condescending/abrasive. he doesn't mean it, he just argues his
points harder than others. this RE2 argument would be fine if we stopped using stupid stuff like stats and sales and started using logic. RE2 has never shown itself to be strong. it might not even be a top 10 PS1 game. the thing with RE2 is that it's the sole PS1 game in a franchise that's extremely hot right now. that's all you need to say - throw the biased x-stats and stupid sales numbers out. --- yzzyx |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/18/2009 3:30:50 PM | message detail |
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We didn't see Link's Awakening, but how many people called it a lock and questioned the other side's intelligence? No one did. But after seeing how it pretty much equaled other Zelda games in the series because of franchise votes, why would anyone think SMW2 will not do the same? And even if you still don't believe in that, it's Mario Vs. Earthbound. Doesn't like common sense kick in for you there? Throw in two other SNES RPGs (including the extremely popular Chrono Trigger), and there is no case at all for EB to place here. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| transience | Posted 4/18/2009 3:32:13 PM | message detail |
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EB's got a small chance because CT's going to eat up roughly half the
vote. if you don't trust the EB fanbase to pull in 15%, you don't know
the EB fanbase too well. I wouldn't wager on the fanbase but I refuse to say it has no chance. --- xyzzy http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7033/trannyanalysis.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 3:34:38 PM | message detail |
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From: transience | #303 The thing is, anything below 25% won't be enough though --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/18/2009 3:36:23 PM | message detail |
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EB fanbase = Nintendo fanbase/RPG fanbase. SMW2 is eating away at that fanbase already. CT is eating away at the RPG fanbase. I know it's a cult game with a devoted fanbase, and if SMW2 was replaced with another average game, I could see it coming out because of CT stealing all the votes. But CT and Mario will sap over half of the votes themselves here, and EB will be fighting for scraps. --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| Mumei | Posted 4/18/2009 3:53:44 PM | message detail |
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I'll be shocked if Earthbound comes anywhere close to being in contention for second-place. I just don't see the logic for it. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 3:55:21 PM | message detail |
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So what do people think of Xenogears after seeing Mana's performance? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/18/2009 3:56:38 PM | message detail |
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Xenogears'll do alright. It's got a bigger fanbase than Mana does on
this site, and if FF8 wasn't there screwing it over it might have a
chance to advance. Damn you FF8. --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/18/2009 3:56:38 PM | message detail |
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I think it'll hurt FFVIII enough so that it'll look like an even BIGGER
shocker when VIII rebounds to knock out Starcraft in Round 2. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 3:56:53 PM | message detail |
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I was thinking about Xenogears, actually. It's probably a bigger contender than we originally thought. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 3:58:09 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Xenogears can advance because it's just not strong
enough, but I think it'll do better now than I did before today. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 3:59:32 PM | message detail |
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But I was wondering more along the lines of asking if you guys think
that it's got a good chance of LFFing FFVIII into third place since it
seems like it'll get a larger percentage than many of us originally
thought? Or do you guys still feel that FFVIII will advance? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/18/2009 4:01:06 PM | message detail |
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FF8 should have no problem advancing unless it's a complete and utter
bomb. So far, we have no reason to believe that'll happen. --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 4:07:19 PM | message detail |
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I don't trust Soul Calibur to be anywhere near FF8. I think even the core FF8 fanbase would beat that game. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 4:08:40 PM | message detail |
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Of course, this franchise voting could also work against FFVIII because
then there's the possibility of FFIX getting to round 2 despite Chrono
Cross. Argh. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| DiorHomme | Posted 4/18/2009 4:09:25 PM | message detail |
| Sick thread. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 4/18/2009 4:09:47 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Cross wins that match book it. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/18/2009 4:12:23 PM | message detail |
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Got a question for Ulti. Do you think it's time to take away the rSFF explanation in the first post and exchange it with an LFF explanation? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 4:25:28 PM | message detail |
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I'd love Soulcalibur to advance there, but it won't no matter how much Xenogears hurts FF8. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 4:55:02 PM | message detail |
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With what we've seen so far, FFVIII should do just fine. 1 on 1, I would sort of kind of consider taking FFIX over it due to anti-votes, but this format helps it out a lot, as it helps out all love/hate games. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 4:56:08 PM | message detail |
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You can only find one poll where FFIX beats FFVIII. Trust me, I've looked at all of them! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:04:00 PM | message detail |
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There's one poll? I didn't think there were any. Which is because those 'favorite Final Fantasy polls' would favor FFVIII, as while FF7 sucks up all the votes like a black hole it would look better due to it having some very diehard fans. 1 on 1, FFVIII doesn't really have any advantages over FFIX. Playership difference? Should be minimal on this site. Loved within the series? FFVIII has more people who adore it, but I think FFIX is more liked in a general sort of way. Not even the Character Battles really point to FFVIII>FFIX. Squall is way stronger than any FFIX character, but he's more of an anomaly running on massive character design appeal and KH factor, like how Auron would destroy everyone else from FFX. FFVIII has gotten in fewer characters than any FF game that's managed to get some into the characters battles; FFIX has gotten in 3, FFVI has gotten in 3, FFIV has gotten in 3, FFX has gotten in 5, FFVII has gotten in too many, FFVIII has gotten in 1. /specualtion --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:05:17 PM | message detail |
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Addition: FFVIII has gotten in 1 despite numerous Seifer and Laguna rally attempts. Not that this matters, as I said, in this format FFVIII wins for sure. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 5:05:34 PM | message detail |
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FF8 may have hate, but FF9 has this stingering "released near the end of the console" factor. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:06:52 PM | message detail |
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I think that factor is overrated, though. FFXII isn't popular around here because it was released at the end of the PS2's lifespan, it's unpopular around here because it wasn't very well-received. That's all. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 5:10:54 PM | message detail |
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There's a poll where FFIX beats FFVIII right after the game came out,
just like how FFX beat FFVI right after it came out. Heck, FFVIII even
beats FFIX in a poll about which game in the series has the best
villains! And I don't know if number of characters into the Character Battle really speaks of a game's strength. It just tells me that Squall is far and away the most loved character, and I don't think there's a definitive second favorite character. Zidane can get it because he's the main character, Vivi can get in because he's the black mage, and Kuja can get it because we have a Villains Contest. The fact that Squall is so much stronger than Zidane (and he still would be even without KH) and the fact that Kuja is so pathetic don't speak well of FFIX's strength, if we ARE going to get into a discussion about characters. But honestly, it's very, very difficult to argue anything about the strength of FFVIII and FFIX because they have so few polls on GameFAQs that deal with anything outside of the Final Fantasy series, and the ones they do have are super old. FFVIII > FFIX is more of a common sense pick than anything else. Not to say FFIX couldn't win, but FFVIII seems to be the logical choice for whatever the reason. *waits for HaRR to bust out the list!* --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| creativename | Posted 4/18/2009 5:11:04 PM | message detail |
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We're actually discussing FF9>FF8 now?? That makes no sense. As for format, get that out of here. If that's any sort of factor it's impossible to speculate to whose favor that would be in. It's absolutely silly to try and say that favors one game. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:12:58 PM | message detail |
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We're actually discussing FF9>FF8 now?? That makes no sense. Weren't you the most adamant MMX supporter on the board? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2009 5:13:38 PM | message detail |
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Said List has FFVIII over FFIX by, like, thirty spots or something
ridiculous. I agree with cn that FFIX > FFVIII makes no sense. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/18/2009 5:14:58 PM | message detail |
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What does supporting MMX have to do with the fact that FFIX > FFVIII is nonsense? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:15:34 PM | message detail |
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And yeah, FFVIII would be the sensible pick, but I've never not argued
against the sensible pick if I though there was a chance it could go
horribly wrong. As for the list... #33: Doom - PC Let's not bring up the list too much. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| creativename | Posted 4/18/2009 5:16:25 PM | message detail |
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Not to say FFIX couldn't win, but FFVIII seems to be the logical choice for whatever the reason. Indeed. 8 winning is no lock, but to favor 9 defies the obvious. Weren't you the most adamant MMX supporter on the board? Uh...no? I thought MMX would win but wasn't too interested in the match and barely discussed it. And if you're trying to attack *my* track record, of all things :) Well that's not gonna get you far. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:18:41 PM | message detail |
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FF8 would beat FF9.. but it wouldn't be a blow out or anything --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 5:20:21 PM | message detail |
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FFIX wouldn't beat FFVIII, either in this format or 1v1. The only thing you could really use an argument for FFIX is that it's gotten a good chunk of its characters in the contests, but then you could just as easily point to the fact that Tales manages to get characters in all the time -- it doesn't mean much of anything. FFIX isn't as weak, or as 'forgotten' as people like to think, but standing up to FFVIII is something I wouldn't expect it to do. Indirectly, I don't think they're going to end up all that close either. FFVIII will probably be closer to FFX than FFIX. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:23:30 PM | message detail |
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I mean, have people not figured out that the list is worth crap yet? #9: Halo: Combat Evolved - XBOX #11: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - PS2 #12: Final Fantasy X - PS2 #24: Super Metroid - SNES #61: Super Mario Kart - SNES #27: Grand Theft Auto III - PS2 #33: Doom - PC #34: Tetris - GB #35: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - PS2 #36: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - XBOX #37: EarthBound - SNES #45: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - GC #56: Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings - PC #68: Skies of Arcadia - DC #70: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater - PS #71: Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - NES #72: Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - PS2 #74: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - GC #81: Tales of Symphonia - GC #82: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island - SNES #38: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - GEN #58: Mortal Kombat - ARC There are so many things wrong with the list. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/18/2009 5:26:32 PM | message detail |
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Why'd you point out Yoshi's Island? --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: Sonic 2 > MKII - Points: 30/44 Vote: Sonic 2 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 5:28:11 PM | message detail |
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There are things "wrong" with The List, sure, but there are
explanations for many - if not most - of the inconsistencies, and
there's a lot of things it HAS been vindicated on. For the latest case in point, see no further than FFVI. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/18/2009 5:29:21 PM | message detail |
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Uh...FFVI is 10th on the list, and it just laid an egg, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 5:29:30 PM | message detail |
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You mean about FFVI only getting 9th when it should've gotten 6th or 7th? Well, what does GE need tomorrow before you seriously consider it over FFVI? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/18/2009 5:31:22 PM | message detail |
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What the hell, Mario RPG finished 26th? Oh jeez! --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 4/18/2009 5:33:14 PM | message detail |
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There's a poll where FFIX beats FFVIII right after the game came
out, just like how FFX beat FFVI right after it came out. Heck, FFVIII
even beats FFIX in a poll about which game in the series has the best
villains! There's a Chrono Cross > FFVII+FFVIII poll too, soon after its release. Recency does seem to play a big part in small poll of the days at least. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:35:14 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=294 aww yea chrono cross for game contest champion --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 4/18/2009 5:36:23 PM | message detail |
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Uh...FFVI is 10th on the list, and it just laid an egg, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. FFVI ending up at #10 on The List was a massive disappointment on all fronts, if you'll remember. We chalked it up to the idiosyncrasies of The List itself, but instead that was the first harbinger of its weakening. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 5:36:39 PM | message detail |
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It definitely says something that FF8 can't manage to get ****ing
Seifer in, or even Rinoa in the female bracket when we saw characters
like the chick from Beyond Good and Evil and Alyx Vance made it in. I
guess it says the characters suck besides the KH-centric Squall? FF8 > FF9. I'd give FF9 a small chance for the upset due to how ****ing nuts this contest is, but I'm 95% certain FF8 would beat it without a sweat. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 5:36:54 PM | message detail |
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Recency probably plays a role to some extent today, too. If we ran
another modern FF favorite poll, FFXII would probably slip a little
further away from the rest of the group -- it was near equal to FFIX
right after its release. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2009 5:37:41 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd expect FFXII to do even worse than it did the first time nowadays. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/18/2009 5:38:47 PM | message detail |
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From: M_e_g_a_6_4 | #344 this is a good point. theres no reason that seifer shouldnt have gotten in by now with his rallies when we get crap like tanner and jinjo in --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/18/2009 5:39:25 PM | message detail |
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Street Fighter IV for 2009 BGE winner! --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| ZFS | Posted 4/18/2009 5:39:44 PM | message detail |
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If FFVIII characters would get in, they'd probably do decently. They
wouldn't have the strength that every FFVII character does, but they'd
be above the likes of Zidane, Kefka, and Cecil, and probably a little
below the FFX crew. But for whatever reason, none of them can get in. FFVIII is very Squall-driven, though. He's the real standout character there, unlike most other FF games where you have two or three, sometimes more, that get a lot of attention. --- http://i44.tinypic.com/hwh4yo.gif |
| Mumei | Posted 4/18/2009 5:40:26 PM | message detail |
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RPGuy96, would you mind IMing me? <_< --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
