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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 680

Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 6:48:47 PM | message detail
It's more likely that Lufia and Shining Force come third than SoM advancing.

That's easily one of the worst things that's prolly ever been posted in here.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/17/2009 6:50:05 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 6:50:49 PM | message detail
YES SHINING FORCE 2
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 6:53:22 PM | message detail
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I'm still shocked more of you haven't played SHF2 knowing your obsession with Fire Emblem!
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/17/2009 6:54:03 PM | message detail
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I agree. Non-consensual sex is very bad.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 6:57:25 PM | message detail
Damn, the gamefaqs screen shots doesn't have one of my favorite gaming lines of all time from SHF2...

"Sir Astral is still sick... it doesn't matter if he dies though, he's old anyway."
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/17/2009 6:59:50 PM | message detail
I played a little bit of SF1 once, but never got very far.

I need to give the SF games a chance one of these days, especially since I'm currently on a Fire Emblem kick.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/17/2009 7:50:22 PM | message detail
Match XII: Mortal Kombat II vs. Secret of Mana vs. Shining Force II vs. Sonic the Hedgehog 2

Information:

Name: Mortal Kombat II
Year: 1993
System: Arcade
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: Secret of Mana
Year: 1993
System: SNES
2004 Performance: 20.61% against Chrono Trigger

Name: Shining Force II
Year: 1994
System: GEN
2004 Performance: Did not enter

Name: Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Year: 1992
System: GEN
2004 Performance: 80.71% against Shining Force, 29.43% against Super Mario World

Analysis

It’s the attack of the sequels; both the original Mortal Kombat and Shining Force were in the previous contest, though this time the superior game of the series are out for a rumble. Oddly enough it was Sonic 2 that defeated the original Shining Force. Anyways I can safely say that a Nintendo game is not going to win today.

Like Gunstar Heroes Shining Force II picked a terrible four-pack to be in. It’s already bad enough that Genesis games do terribly on GameFAQs, but to give it an opponent that is the only series on the Genesis to have half decent strength is just plain mean. We’ve seen what Sonic 2 has done to the original and while Shining Force II is the stronger game it won’t be doing any better here.

Sonic 2 is easily the favourite here. The original was able to defeat Street Fighter II and Sonic 2 is stronger while Mortal Kombat II should be a bit weaker than Street Fighter II and with no Nintendo games in sight the only thing standing in its way is possibility that Secret of Mana was severely SFF by Chrono Trigger in 2004. However even if that is true Secret of Mana would need to have some serious strength to compete with Sonic 2 and that is something that I do not see.

Originally Mortal Kombat II missed the bracket, but with a last minute switch with Super Street Fighter II Turbo it’s in a good position to advance. The original Mortal Kombat was stuck facing Final Fantasy VI in round 1, but being stronger than the original and a boost to fighting characters in four-ways gives me the encouragement that Mortal Kombat II will take second.

Secret of Mana is a nice upset choice, but it needed to have been SFF by Chrono Trigger back in 2004 for it to advance. While I do believe that Secret of Mana was affected I don’t believe that it will be enough for it to surpass Mortal Kombat II, though it may make a match out of it. Also Secret of Mana is rarely mentioned anymore and is not popular in the emulation department like other SNES games.

To end this division of SNES vs. GEN it looks like the score will be 5-1, a bit lopsided considering at the beginning it was 7-6 SNES. In the end the SNES ultimately won the battle back in the early 90s and it is now being reflected here. This is also the division where Nintendo domination ends with the rise of the Playstation and Final Fantasy VII.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > Mortal Kombat II

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 – 42.64%, Mortal Kombat II – 27.42%, Secret of Mana – 22.52%, Shining Force II – 7.42%

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HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 8:21:49 PM | message detail
Probably not, but Mortal Kombat I should be a fair proxy for it.

People said Scorpion would be a proxy for Sub-Zero despite this poll...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1788

...which led to this comparison...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1739 (standard Scorpion pic, pre-KH2 Auron)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2546 (modern Sub-Zero pic, post-KH2 Auron)

...and now we have this poll about the Mortal Kombat games...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1789

...and MK1 is supposed to be a fair proxy for MK2?


MK-fans aren't that stupid and it's kinda ignorant to think so. How MK1 did in the Top 100 List is not representative of how MK2 would have done if it was in the drop-down box, nor is MK1 against FF3/6 a fair proxy of how MK2 would have done then OR now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 8:36:22 PM | message detail
whos ready for some secret of mana
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 8:37:32 PM | message detail
I'm ready for not caring about Secret of Mana

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 8:38:30 PM | message detail
I'm ready for someone to wake me up in 24 hours.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/17/2009 8:39:06 PM | message detail
I'm ready for Secret of Bomba
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Match 11 - Bracket: FF6 > MMX - Vote: MMX (30/40)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 8:40:44 PM | message detail
FF6 seems to have such barely made it over 40% once this is over! I was worried back in the ASV it might drop below 40%.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 8:42:55 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3456&num=2

MMX hits 38% against FFVI.

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HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 8:50:45 PM | message detail
FF3/6 - 80%
LoZ:LA - 60%
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:15 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II 27.59%

8
Secret of Mana 27.59%

8
Shining Force II 13.79%

4
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 31.03%

9
TOTAL VOTES 29

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Match 12 - Bracket: Sonic 2 > MK2 - Vote: Sonic 2 (32/44)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:40 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II 29.17%

42
Secret of Mana 22.22%

32
Shining Force II 6.25%

9
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 42.36%

61
TOTAL VOTES 144
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:45 PM | message detail
this is clearly over in SoMs favour due to bracket votes
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:45 PM | message detail
Not any more.
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transience | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:50 PM | message detail
not bad by Secret of Mana. it's not getting embarrassed at least!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 9:00:57 PM | message detail
LOOK AT THIS
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Majin Lou | Posted 4/17/2009 9:01:05 PM | message detail
Heh, Secret of Mana ain't to be ****ed with, it seems.
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/17/2009 9:01:14 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II 28.74% 48
Secret of Mana 23.35% 39
Shining Force II 6.59% 11
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 41.32% 69
TOTAL VOTES 167

SoM's still keeping close!
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ZFS | Posted 4/17/2009 9:01:29 PM | message detail
Let's go Secret of Mana

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red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:01:31 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II 29.19% 54
Secret of Mana 23.24% 43
Shining Force II 7.03% 13
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 40.54% 75
TOTAL VOTES 185

Let's see where this goes after BRACKETS wear off. Probably an easy win for MKII, but let's see.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/17/2009 9:01:37 PM | message detail
I'm assuming Secret of Mana scores an easy second place if you take Shining Force 2 out?
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:01 PM | message detail
Looks like SoM has this lol!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:10 PM | message detail
Haha, MK might have won the initial BRACKETS push, but Secret of Mana can hang with the board vote!

(Come on, get those last ten votes so you lead for a little while!)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:13 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #427
I'm assuming Secret of Mana scores an easy second place if you take Shining Force 2 out?


I don't see why a strategy game and an action game would sff.
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transience | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:19 PM | message detail
I have a hard time picturing SOM doing much in the daytime and I don't think this is just brackets.

Sonic is disappointing the hell out of me here.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:22 PM | message detail
Sonic 2 is looking like garbage in all of this.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 9:02:35 PM | message detail
Wow, Sonic.

At least my MMX>Sonic 2 pick in Round 2 has been vindicated! (darn you LA)

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:03:05 PM | message detail
I'd be less worried about SoM overtaking MK2 and more worried about MK2 overtaking Sonic 2!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 9:03:20 PM | message detail
Good lord, Sonic. You better at least hit 40% you damned turd.

This means no one cares about Street Fighter. =(
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/17/2009 9:03:22 PM | message detail
hey sonic 2

what is this
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transience | Posted 4/17/2009 9:03:35 PM | message detail
Sonic should rebound since it's the clear first place, but this is three weakass games. it shouldn't be below 40% ever.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:03:49 PM | message detail
And it's only just now that I notice this is a battle of the 2's! (Secret of Mana = Seiken Densetsu 2, the first one being Final Fantasy Adventure).
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Majin Lou | Posted 4/17/2009 9:04:07 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat II isn't weakass, thank you very much.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 9:04:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, this makes Street Fighter II look awful.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 9:04:20 PM | message detail
Although I do think Sonic will rebound nicely. All the early voters were probably wrapped up in the battle for second.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:04:38 PM | message detail
Sonic failing is to be expected by this point. But Sonic does have Europe in his corner, remember, so he'll look better before we're done.
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ZFS | Posted 4/17/2009 9:04:53 PM | message detail
Ha. We knew Street Fighter wasn't popular when Sonic beat it down! People just got the wrong idea that it meant Sonic games were worth something.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/17/2009 9:05:05 PM | message detail

From: M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted: 4/18/2009 12:03:49 AM | #438
And it's only just now that I notice this is a battle of the 2's! (Secret of Mana = Seiken Densetsu 2, the first one being Final Fantasy Adventure).


FFA is the Secret of Mana series? What?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 9:05:38 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #444
FFA is the Secret of Mana series? What?


You didn't know that? It was named Final Fantasy Adventure in America to sell better in America.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:05:48 PM | message detail
He can't even hold 38% at the freeze.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 4/17/2009 9:05:49 PM | message detail
MK II>SF II?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/17/2009 9:06:03 PM | message detail
I loved all four of the Game Boy FF games.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/17/2009 9:06:11 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #444
FFA is the Secret of Mana series? What?


FFA = Seiken Densetsu 1, Secret of Mana = Seiken Densetsu 2, Seiken Densetsu 3 = Seiken Densetsu 3, and then there's a bunch more mana games.

Sword of Mana on GBA is actually a remake of Final Fantasy Adventure.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 9:06:31 PM | message detail
Link's Awakening is gonna make Sonic look so much worse.
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