GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 680
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 9:42:41 AM | message detail |
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I want to see MM2 with a good pic before I definitively say MMX >
MM2...although it looks likely for now. MMX got the best pic of the
franchise by far, however, so I'll wait for MM2 to get something
respectable first. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 10:11:48 AM | message detail |
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its amazing how bad mega man does in europe hours.. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 10:14:19 AM | message detail |
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MMX currently has 37% against FFVI. I'd call that a lot better than MM3's 41% against FFIV. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/17/2009 10:36:20 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'll take 37% on FFVI over anything MM2 does, pic advantage or not. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:07:06 PM | message detail |
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I don't know why people continue to be amazed over how badly Mega Man
does in Europe. I can't remember him ever having a remotely popular
game here. I think I remember Smurf saying something similar, but when
I first came to GameFAQs in 2003 or whatever, I didn't know who Mega
Man was >_> --- "Eet's game time..." |
| Mithos17 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:10:36 PM | message detail |
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^ OMG You really didn't know what Mega Man was? Man, that's what got me
into gaming is Mega Man. It all started with Mega Man 2 when I was 2
years old. Good times. Do you guys just not get many Mega Man games? Or is it just not popular? |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:13:22 PM | message detail |
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Are you guys STILL unimpressed with FF6's performance? I'd say this is
literally exactly what I expected out of it. It's handling a Zelda and
a Mega Man game very well. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/17/2009 12:13:42 PM | message detail |
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Nice ASV FF6. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| transience | Posted 4/17/2009 12:14:30 PM | message detail |
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FF6 is gonna lose some updates to LA here. Lopen'd --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 12:15:56 PM | message detail |
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FFVI stays above 40% y/n n --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| White_Turtle | Posted 4/17/2009 12:16:20 PM | message detail |
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Are you guys STILL unimpressed with FF6's performance? I'd say this
is literally exactly what I expected out of it. It's handling a Zelda
and a Mega Man game very well. I think people were expecting FF6 to be as strong as it was in 2004, but it's completely unreasonable to think that given the shift the site has taken. 2004 was the lowest votal, most hardcore year that you'd expect games like FF6 to excel at. Now with votals almost triple what they were and younger kids coming in that didn't grow up with these SNES classics, strengths and trends are completely different. I fully expect the last half of the bracket to be much stronger in relation to the first half. I'd consider a few newer games over LttP or Chrono Trigger. I'd probably take FFX > FF6 now too sadly. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:21:37 PM | message detail |
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It's not hard to see why we're disappointed by FFVI. FF1 vs LA, who you got? If those two are even, FFVI gets 51.9% on SMW (and falling...), compared to 56.5% five years ago. And I would have definitely expected FF > LA before today, which makes FFVI look worse. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:23:46 PM | message detail |
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As predicted last night, FFVI is probably going to lose some updates
here, and it looks like it's not going to stay 10% ahead of LA. But if
you thought it'd be 5-6% weaker relative to its 2004 self, which would
put it 1-2% ahead of SMW all things else staying the same, it's meeting
expecations. LTTP will need to drive the Nintendo games in round 3 to
ridiculously low percentages to win that one. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:25:44 PM | message detail |
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Why? There's two Nintendo games here and it's pretty clear that FFVI isn't taking advantage of that. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:30:52 PM | message detail |
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Well, if MMX and LA are getting much LFF on each other, then FFVI is
doing really badly, even considering the fall of Chrono Trigger's
characters since 2004 (using CT since it's hard to judge FFVI's
characters.....er....Kefka). But I don't think MMX and LA have that
much more overlap between them than with FFVI; most of these old games'
fanbases overlap together, and we haven't yet seen much in the way of
strong and clear cases of LFF this contest. LTTP is going to be facing
FFVI with a decently strong SNES game, most likely Super Metroid, and a
fellow Zelda game. But I wouldn't put it past LTTP to SFF LA down below
5%, Link/Ganon style, I guess. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:43:14 PM | message detail |
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How many of these FFVI voters do you think would be voting LttP if it was here instead of Link's Awakening? --- |PM| After 9: 30/36 |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:46:09 PM | message detail |
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That was quite an update for MMX... --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:47:02 PM | message detail |
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It's down by 5k votes though. >_> --- |PM| After 9: 30/36 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:54:16 PM | message detail |
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Well, there it is. LA by 17. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 12:54:43 PM | message detail |
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Ha, I wonder how many cuts LA will do on FF6 during the asv --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/17/2009 1:00:45 PM | message detail |
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An okay performance here by FFVI though it doesn't really matter since
its path is basically set in stone (other than finishing ahead of LttP
in round 3) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > MMX Points: 27/40 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 1:13:27 PM | message detail |
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im surprised we dont have moer arguements about secret of mana --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 1:14:35 PM | message detail |
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2004 was the lowest votal, most hardcore year that you'd expect
games like FF6 to excel at. Now with votals almost triple what they
were and younger kids coming in that didn't grow up with these SNES
classics, strengths and trends are completely different. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1616 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1640 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1652 After the poll's position changed between the first and second poll, vote totals did go down...but vote totals are now almost triple? BT, not even the first round of 2002 had vote totals that are a third of what we've been having. Stop lying or educate yourself -- I can't tell what it is with you anymore. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 1:21:53 PM | message detail |
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Secret of Mana has a decent chance of placing tomorrow After Sonic 1
> Street Fighter 2, and Sonic 3's huge failure, SF2 looks really
bad, and I can't imagine MK2 being stronger than SF2, or even at its
level. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 1:22:33 PM | message detail |
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Mortal Kombat 1, rather, but it doesn't make much difference to the argument. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 4/17/2009 1:28:57 PM | message detail |
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I'm not sure why everyone is putting FF1 equal to or above Link's
Awakening myself. From what I can tell, more have played Link's
Awakening, more enjoyed Link's Awakening and the Zelda name is stronger
than the Final Fantasy name. You guys need to get over this handheld
bias. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 1:36:52 PM | message detail |
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In their defense, though, Link's Awakening really is the juggernaut of
all handheld games. I'm just going on gut here, but I can't see
anything else - from Mario Land to New SMB to Pokemon - approaching its
level. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/17/2009 1:37:51 PM | message detail |
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Secret of Mana has a great chance tomorrow and it will come close to MKII, but I don't see it beating it. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > MMX Points: 27/40 |
| DiorHomme | Posted 4/17/2009 1:38:08 PM | message detail |
| I will get the 500th post this time. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 1:40:18 PM | message detail |
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Let's see...changed predictions of matches. Donkey Kong Country 2 GoldenEye 007 Resident Evil 2 Super Mario RPG DKC2 looks to do a lot better...but seeing how little SFF and LFF has mattered so far, any ideas of it holding down SMRPG go out the window. 007>SMRPG is more likely. Final Fantasy VII Mario Kart 64 Star Fox 64 Suikoden Unless SF64 surprises everyone...MK64 takes 2nd in a rout. Chrono Trigger Earthbound Lufia II SMW2: Yoshi's Island With how much franchise voting has mattered so far, the EB upset is mostly dead. Banjo-Kazooie Perfect Dark Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow Zelda: Majora's Mask R/B/Y can still pull out a win, but it looks pretty unlikely. Chrono Cross Final Fantasy IX Half-Life Zelda: Ocarina of Time FFIX looks a little better, considering the rampant franchise voting. Final Fantasy XII Half-Life 2 Phoenix Wright Zelda: Twilight Princess HL2 is still the favorite, but its road just got a little harder. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 1:41:34 PM | message detail |
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In their defense, though, Link's Awakening really is the juggernaut
of all handheld games. I'm just going on gut here, but I can't see
anything else - from Mario Land to New SMB to Pokemon - approaching its
level. Being the juggernaut of handheld games really isn't that impressive. Besides R/B/Y, LA, and maybe on or two others none of them are particularly strong. Would still take R/B/Y>LA, though. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 1:42:51 PM | message detail |
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Secret of Mana's got a chance...but I don't like it. It would have a
hard enough time beating MK1 in 2004; 2004-stats say MK1 gets 59.43% on
SoM before adjusting for any SFF in CT/SoM. MK2 > MK1, too: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1789 Throw in five years for SoM without a sequel or anything to keep it alive, and I feel good about MK2 > SoM. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 1:47:43 PM | message detail |
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if anything, todays match makes ff6 > lttp obvious in the 3rd round since it will be lttp/la/random nintendo game/ff6 --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 1:50:21 PM | message detail |
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With how close LA is to LTTP, and how little SFF/LFF has mattered so far...that match is definitely still up in the air. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 1:50:49 PM | message detail |
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I'll take RBY > LA. All LA has over it is the Zelda name; RBY was a much bigger game in pretty much all respects. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 1:52:53 PM | message detail |
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With how much franchise voting has mattered so far, the EB upset is mostly dead. For what it's worth, MMX has shown to likely be the strongest Mega Man game and SMK competed with SM to the very end...and EB did still beat them big time in that poll. Also, though SMK got really close to SM, SM still won and it was thirty-seven spots ahead of SMK in the Top 100 List...compared to EB being forty-five spots ahead of SMW2:YI. EB's not out of it yet, though you're right that franchise voting alone may screw it over. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 1:53:56 PM | message detail |
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since it will be lttp/la/random nintendo game/ff6 That'll make LoZ:LttP > FF7 all the better the following round! --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 1:54:07 PM | message detail |
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I figured EB was dead the second it was placed alongside two SNES rpgs regardless of its competition. Then put mario against it? lol --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/17/2009 1:57:59 PM | message detail |
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From: red sox 777 | #285 Are you sure about that? Both games are about as big as the other. This match is just pending on who's stronger. As far as I'm concerned, anyway. I already laid out my LA > R/B/Y opinion. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 28/40 Vote: MMX |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 1:58:04 PM | message detail |
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Well...SMW2 sold less than LA, is less liked than LA, is less
well-known than LA, and the SMB name isn't as potent as the Zelda game. So I guess EB still has a shot, but it's looking grim. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/17/2009 1:59:45 PM | message detail |
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The way I see that EB match is this: Chrono Trigger isn't going to grab a lot of votes, so who will the non-CT fans most likely vote for? For some reason, it seems like YI would be that choice, but at the same time, it isn' ta "traditional" Mario game. I say it'll be struggle to win at least. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 28/40 Vote: MMX |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 2:00:45 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger isn't going to grab a lot of votes Why won't it? I can see it hitting 50% --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/17/2009 2:00:46 PM | message detail |
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But then again, Super Mario Kart put a huge dent in Super Metroid,
which is even bigger than Earthbound, and Yoshi's Island may not be as
liked as Mario Kart, but which has a bigger gap? SM and EB, or Super
Mario Kart and Yoshi's Island? Yup.. pretty grim. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 28/40 Vote: MMX |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 2:00:49 PM | message detail |
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And if the match is close at all, EB has it. You know that fanbase is going to rally the hell out of it. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 2:01:37 PM | message detail |
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...SMK has nothing to do with YI. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 2:03:25 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger: 48% Earthbound: 18% Yoshis Island: 30% Lufia 2: 4% Thats how I see it. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/17/2009 2:04:45 PM | message detail |
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No way in hell EB only gets 18% with its fanbase, and no way in hell YI does anywhere near that well. Chrono Trigger: 49% Earthbound: 22% Yoshis Island: 25% Lufia 2: 4% --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2009 2:05:47 PM | message detail |
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Multiple RPGs could let SMW2:YI take advantage, yeah, but SMK and MMX
couldn't in the SNES-VC poll despite CT, FF3/6, FF2/4, SoM, and
SoE...so just
CT and Lufia 2 shouldn't hurt too bad unless people really voted in
each poll differently (I'm sure they did to a degree due to the
wording). Also, when Metroid and DKC can still advance despite
LoZ/LttP, I don't know how much two RPGs from different companies are
going to bother a quirky RPG like EB. I do feel worse about EB's chances, but it's not out of it yet. Besides, to go against the argument for franchise voting, we've not yet seen if franchise-voting plays less of a factor as we get into newer games -- EB's in the fourth of eight divisions divided by years, so perhaps franchise-voting will not be so strong compared to what we've seen. A minimal factor, but EB could use it. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/17/2009 2:06:00 PM | message detail |
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Maybe I'm overestimating Yoshis Island, but I can't see any main line
Mario game outside of Sunshine and 2 that weak. 25% against 22% to a
SFF'd Earthbound would make Yoshis Island weaker then Doom in 2004. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/voteps4plz.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/17/2009 2:06:15 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger will be grabbing a lot of votes. 50% will be very very
easy for it. Indeed, it should beat LTTP's percentage considering that
its competition is much weaker, and has a shot at 60%. DKC >= YI,
Doom > Earthbound, Streets of Rage > Lufia 2. That's unless the
Mario name makes Yoshi's Island stronger than DKC, in which case it
won't matter as far as Earthbound is concerned. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
