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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 680

LeonhartFour | Posted 4/16/2009 10:07:12 PM | message detail
But Power Hour is OVER!

Okay, MMX! You've got three hours to at least gain the dignity of getting the lead before LA wipes the floor with you with the Europe vote!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:08:18 PM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #149
For the record, Super Metroid got 83.29% on PS4. Nice showing by all three games here.

On what level is using Phantasy Star IV good ground to judge things on?


Not good at all, but it's the only thing we have available right now that will shut up people freaking out about whether FF6 has dropped or not.

Mainly it's to support that MMX and LA have actual strength.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 10:08:26 PM | message detail
Don't you know?

Europeans HATE Link's Awakening.

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redrocket | Posted 4/16/2009 10:08:39 PM | message detail

For the record, Super Metroid got 83.29% on PS4


I'm going to take this as solid proof that LA and MMX are both stronger than SM. FFVI is doing quite fine!!

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:09:30 PM | message detail
Too bad we don't know how FF6 would do against Super Metroid!
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:09:54 PM | message detail
Time for FFVI to kick some ass tonight.

So Gunstar Heroes vs. Streets of Rage II vs. Phantasy Star IV vs. Shining Force II who wins?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/16/2009 10:10:11 PM | message detail
Don't you know?

Europeans HATE Link's Awakening.


But nothing tops the hate they have for MMX, apparently!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:10:30 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #156
Time for FFVI to kick some ass tonight.

So Gunstar Heroes vs. Streets of Rage II vs. Phantasy Star IV vs. Shining Force II who wins?


SoR2 > SF2, wouldn't think twice.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/16/2009 10:11:25 PM | message detail
Streets of Rage 2 > Who cares
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:12:14 PM | message detail
More like Contra ripoff vs. Double Dragon ripoff vs. Final Fantasy ripoff vs. Fire Emblem ripoff!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 10:12:15 PM | message detail
Gunstar Heroes > Shining Force

But that's probably just my fanboy logic taking hold.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 4/16/2009 10:12:41 PM | message detail
Well, maybe MMX won't get that lead after all!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:13:53 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #161
Gunstar Heroes > Shining Force

But that's probably just my fanboy logic taking hold.


In terms of actual game quality, I'd agree.

Gunstar Heroes and the two Shining Force games are the only three good games on the Genesis. Glad my parents got me a SNES as a kid. <3
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:14:18 PM | message detail
I really enjoy the way this new feature of viewing results by region has allowed us to make vast generalizations about entire continents. It is very, very amusing.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:15:34 PM | message detail

From: FastFalcon05 | #164
I really enjoy the way this new feature of viewing results by region has allowed us to make vast generalizations about entire continents. It is very, very amusing.


The French vote for Sonic characters because they're all furries who like to drink wine and laze about in their fursuits!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:16:07 PM | message detail
I think LA's choking on a meatball and needs serious medical attention.
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:17:54 PM | message detail
hrm...

either LA and MMX are both really strong or FF6 bites. I'll take the more obvious answer - FF6 is just not that strong. kinda feel better about World > FF4 by seeing this, though that's really stretching this result.

if this is LA and MMX both being strong, then MMX is wayyyyy stronger than MM2/3 and LA's only a half step below Wind Waker. I don't believe that that's the case though, I'm not willing to go that high on MMX.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:18:59 PM | message detail
I'm pretty confident it really is MMX and LA actually being that strong. Guess we'll see for sure next round, though.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/16/2009 10:19:55 PM | message detail
*tears bracket in half*

SAVE_MY_BRACKET_.METAL GEAR SOLID

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:20:17 PM | message detail
And enough of this dull match. I'm going to get some sleep and then maybe play the kinda-boring Fire Emblem DS.

No wonder nobody likes it. It has a horribly bare-bones story for a Fire Emblem game.
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:20:28 PM | message detail
nah, we won't really know 'til LTTP/FF6, and since LA will likely crush Sonic it'll be impeded there. that match could be SMK/LTTP/LA/FF6 and I still wouldn't be willing to say FF6 is a lock, though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/16/2009 10:22:07 PM | message detail
The thing is... it hardly matters. FFVI's path is set in stone, and even if it's weaker than it was in 2004, it would still take a DK-esque choke job to drop the ball against LttP with such advantages in its corner.

Wait, can we even make DK choke jokes anymore?
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:24:45 PM | message detail
are you sure? this is pretty good competition here but under 40% is still pretty bad for a Super Seven game.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/16/2009 10:24:48 PM | message detail
And while I probably wouldn't take Link's Awakening over Majora's Mask or Wind Waker, I had no idea why people were so sure it couldn't be in the same league. It's a hand held, yes, but it clearly shouldn't have been compared to Minish Cap or the Oracle games just because of that. Many Zelda fans love themselves some LA.
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 4/16/2009 10:29:01 PM | message detail
How is LA losing

what happened to

ZELDA
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:33:21 PM | message detail
I still don't believe it's in the same league. WW would probably be in a battle for first here. LA is a mile behind.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/16/2009 10:36:19 PM | message detail
So, how do people think LA would be doing against Pokemon RBY? Is LA actually the strongest handheld game on the site?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/16/2009 10:37:41 PM | message detail
Yeah, I wouldn't count on it either, but I still think it's a possibility. At least it's showing it has some pop, though.

That leaves Majora's Mask as the biggest Zelda mystery. That one has a real question mark by its name. On the down side, it has pretty light sales (compared to the other big Zeldas) and was released while the N64 was old and dying. On the up side, it's got a lot of Ocarina ties. As far as Zeldas go, I can see it going anywhere from fourth to seventh on the strength ladder.
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:39:45 PM | message detail
MM's floor is LA, I think -- wherever that is. this match really doesn't tell me much.

I'm curious to see that match with RBY. we also won't know the extent of that maybe ever. I will say that this lack of SFF puts round 2 into a four-way melee.
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ZFS | Posted 4/16/2009 10:50:28 PM | message detail
I don't know that TWW would be fighting for first here. I don't think it would do a whole lot better than LA, but who knows.

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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:51:45 PM | message detail
Wind Waker is not going to struggle with Mega Man X.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 4/16/2009 10:52:20 PM | message detail
I just started paying attention to this match, has MMX been cutting LA like that for a while now or is that new?

Either way, I like it.

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Lopen | Posted 4/16/2009 10:54:19 PM | message detail
Wind Waker is not going to struggle with Mega Man X.

Speak for yourself, there. I could see Wind Waker and Majora's Mask doing as bad or worse in this situation.
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ZFS | Posted 4/16/2009 10:55:44 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 4/16/2009 10:56:49 PM | message detail
I also don't think it's going to be fighting with Final Fantasy VI for first, even accounting for the drop it's taken. Neither one sounds right, but I know I wouldn't take TWW over FFVI.

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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 10:59:18 PM | message detail
I wouldn't either -- but I wouldn't say it's a lock, if only because we've never seen new vs. old.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/16/2009 11:09:30 PM | message detail
*sigh* Another disappointing result from an SNES powerhouse (to me), 'cept this one's so obvious that everyone else is beating me to the punch and then some. And sure, LttP may not have been able to SFF DKC enough to let Doom through, but you'd expect something worth 47% on what is still a relative juggernaut to do better than this on a fourth-tier Zelda and a Mega Man game that's not far off from it.

And considering what we've seen out of MM games this contest, it's hard to give it the benefit of the doubt.
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Lopen | Posted 4/16/2009 11:13:49 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Relatively, the ASV goes MMX > FF6 > LoZ. I'll not claim this will win MMX the match, just that's this is how it shall be. Gameboy classix won't be winning the ASV here, Zelda name or not...!
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transience | Posted 4/16/2009 11:15:35 PM | message detail
nah, Zelda > MMX > FF6.
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Lopen | Posted 4/16/2009 11:20:11 PM | message detail
Well, yes, tran, that being the general consensus is why I thought it fit to put the BOLD tag before the prediction.

Just remember, it's a gameboy game. Franchise voting doesn't exist here this is all raw power.
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jonthomson | Posted 4/16/2009 11:47:20 PM | message detail
cannot believe doom lost. what a joke.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/16/2009 11:58:08 PM | message detail
NEVER DOUBT ZELDA
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:01:18 AM | message detail
*Checks update*

Or maybe you should, who knows? Prolly not though
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:03:28 AM | message detail
Link's Awakening = joke game

This is a terrible post.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:05:45 AM | message detail
Geez, those last eight updates are the definition of stalling. 3 net votes have been exchanged.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:05:50 AM | message detail
This constant Nintendo dominance despite the Wii being the BIGGEST PIECE OF CRAP TO EVER HIT GAMING is just depressing.

Let's be fair. With the exception of handfuls of diamonds in the rough, all three next gen systems are jokes.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:09:15 AM | message detail
I've gotta say though, anybody thinking FF6 is looking disappointing is jumping the gun at the moment. MMX and LA are strong, verifiable top of the line midcarders.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/17/2009 12:12:31 AM | message detail
Let's hope this keeps up so it can make my FFVI > LA pick for next round look credible!
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greatone10 | Posted 4/17/2009 12:26:35 AM | message detail
Well, my FFVI > MMX pic is DOA, but maybe LA dominates so much next round that Sonic ranks below MMX so I can save face.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/17/2009 12:29:18 AM | message detail
We'll have to see where MMX ends up (Link's Awakening will have more breathing room in 20 hours), but after watching Sonic 3 fold like origami against lesser Nintendo names, my money would be on Sonic 2 to bomb nice and good next round.
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