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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 679

White_Turtle | Posted 4/16/2009 12:56:56 PM | message detail
MarioSuperstar
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From: White_Turtle | #192
Hey look, BT was 100% correct about match trends YET AGAIN.

You and everyone else, buddy.


Tell that to all the people saying "NOTHING DK EVER GETS ASV" or "DKC LOST THE MORNING IT IS SO SCREWED"
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 12:57:24 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=49072085

If he makes that topic, no reason to not make a topic about a match that matters and had a lot of talk about cheating

thats all
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 12:58:02 PM | message detail

From: White_Turtle | #201
Tell that to all the people


Some people said DKC would get it. Some people said DKC wouldn't get it.

You aren't some god or anything.
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White_Turtle | Posted 4/16/2009 12:58:18 PM | message detail
The thing is, people are taking 2004 trends at face value, but look at the site back then compared to now. Much more hard-core oriented and a third of the votals. Same reason why Secret of Mana is going to completely job.
PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/16/2009 12:58:26 PM | message detail
DK is a dud in the ASV who lost it big to Duck Hunt of all things. There is no reason for DKC to be doing better in the ASV then Zelda.

Why is DK a dud in the ASV? Because he had epic failures against a Nintendo game (duck hunt) and Halo? Last I checked those things are usually beasts with ASV.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 12:59:17 PM | message detail
BT, no one cares about your ability to predict anything when you call other people tools for thinking Doom might've had a chance.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 4/16/2009 12:59:33 PM | message detail
*FINALLY manages to log in*

*Looks at poll*

*Looks at previous updates*

*checks DKC percentage twice*

man what

In two days, we've had a pair of matches that should have been SFFests, and both of them didn't work as expected (Okay, Sonic SFFed Gunstar Heroes and SM/SMK weakened Sonic greatly, but still). Does anybody get the feeling that SFF doesn't work on games in this format? DKC should be down to something like 10% considering its up with LttP, but its doubling that. I wonder if SFF is weakening or something...
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 12:59:45 PM | message detail

From: PhD_inTHC | #205
DK is a dud in the ASV who lost it big to Duck Hunt of all things. There is no reason for DKC to be doing better in the ASV then Zelda.

Why is DK a dud in the ASV? Because he had epic failures against a Nintendo game (duck hunt) and Halo? Last I checked those things are usually beasts with ASV.


I don't see Duck hunt as anything special in the ASV. It wouldn't get smash bros vote or recency vote among kids from the ASV. Plus as we saw this year, duck hunt did nothing in the ASV (though might of been hurt by sff, but still). I just think DK was just THAT BAD at asv to lose it to Duck hunt
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PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/16/2009 1:01:29 PM | message detail
Alright, well the point is it's only lost to other things in the ASV that have been proven to be fantastic with it, or other Nintendo titles. It's really not shocking that it's using it to it's advantage over friggin Doom.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:02:31 PM | message detail
Well yeah I didn't expect Doom to do much due to FF6 type of trends last contest. But it just shows how bad its asv is if it truly is losing the ASV to DK.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 1:03:32 PM | message detail
I would like to point out that DKC is currently beating Zelda with the ASV.




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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:04:40 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #211
I would like to point out that DKC is currently beating Zelda with the ASV.


Thats my point. Beating Doom isn't a surprise, but there is something fishy going on when DKC is going up more during the ASV then freaking Zelda. There is no logical explanation for that.
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:05:15 PM | message detail
No, he posted it because someone (I believe HaRRicH) asked him if something was going on. The next time he posts about that will be when he finds cheaters and removes votes.

Yep, it was me. I'm siding with you here, but if people are still concerned then they should send him a feedback ticket about it. Until then, I'm assuming SB gave it a quick double-check, saw nothing, and carried on...and it's hard to blame him considering both games were wacky and 4chan couldn't successfully cheat. Assurance would be excellent, but I figure SB still went through the motions for this one since it was right after he looked into it about Battletoads.


Hey look, BT was 100% correct about match trends YET AGAIN. [...] God damn I'm good. If only arrogance could translate into contest points.

Fixed.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 1:05:23 PM | message detail
Ahh no logical explanation cheating cheating.
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BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC!
PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/16/2009 1:07:42 PM | message detail
Since 3:00 DKC has gone up .09, and LTTP has gone up .06

OMFG NO WAY

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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/16/2009 1:08:08 PM | message detail
Stuffing Kong Country
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DragonQuestlX | Posted 4/16/2009 1:08:41 PM | message detail
go donkey kong country!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:09:34 PM | message detail
Donkey Kongs first round match last year from 3:00 to 4:00

3:00 - 21.59%
4:00 - 21.46%

Adn he was up against such asv beasts as Tails, Tidus and Cube.
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Mithos17 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:10:46 PM | message detail
There's no stuffing going on... This just proves that kids love monkey's more than elf's.
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deadeyedllv | Posted 4/16/2009 1:13:44 PM | message detail
I was gonna post the same thing as Implicint, but he beat me to it. In a 4 way match with a close battle for second many people are going to stop voting for the game in first and vote for the game they want to get second. That is why DKC and Doom might get more votes now. I'm guessing 30 minutes from now DKC will be in the lead.
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Osfan | Posted 4/16/2009 1:14:54 PM | message detail
Or it proves that kids think DKC is a classic and that Donkey Kong as a whole represents a lot more garbage bongo games then classics? Obviously Super Mario 3 doesn't do better then Mario would do by himself... >_>
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:14:54 PM | message detail
Really, who would argue elves > monkeys in the kiddy-demographic? This was a given!


What kind of SNV is Doom expected to have? If it can count on that to come through, it's just a matter of keeping DKC close...though I doubt this board will let DKC lose if it goes to the final minutes. Doom's gotta play some mean defense here.....
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 1:15:41 PM | message detail
Doom has pretty much the same trends as FFVI, apparently.

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PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/16/2009 1:16:11 PM | message detail
If DKC can mount a 400 vote lead I'm willing to call it.

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paulg235 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:19:00 PM | message detail
20 votes left until DKC gains the lead.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:19:49 PM | message detail
One thing to help Doom if its close in the final hour though; I don't see Donkey Kong the type of game people will "rally" for.
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PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/16/2009 1:20:37 PM | message detail
This board ****ing loves DKC. If it's down to the wire DKC has it.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 1:21:06 PM | message detail
Looks like LTTP decided to show up.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:21:18 PM | message detail
Ok now Zeldas ASV is starting to look more normal compared to DKC
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:22:19 PM | message detail
Oh man, Albion, pretty sure you're wrong there. If this goes into, say, the last ten minutes, there is no doubt in my mind B8 will find and "find" some fans real quick. DKC2 was the NRT-pick, DKC still gets mad respect here, and DKC-fans are adamant about the series.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:23:50 PM | message detail
Huh, really? I thought you all hated on DK. >_> Guess I was wrong then
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/16/2009 1:25:20 PM | message detail
LttP's ASV wasn't really *that* great in 2004. Definitely not as good as Link's.
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paulg235 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:25:56 PM | message detail
Huh, really? I thought you all hated on DK. >_> Guess I was wrong then

Well, let's take a look here.

Knuckles - 7.89 (14 Votes) (Day 8)
Protoman - 7.89 (9 Votes) (Day 23)
Donkey Kong - 7.72 (14 Votes) (Day 35)
Scorpion - 7.72 (11 Votes) (Day 29)
Chun-Li - 7.5 (10 Votes) (Day 7)

Seems to be pretty well liked here.
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paulg235 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:27:49 PM | message detail
Oh, and both games are 6 votes apart now.
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:29:40 PM | message detail
Weird thought, but is there a chance the Virtual Console has played a small part on some of the ASV-trends so far this contest?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:35:57 PM | message detail
LOL massive stuffing on both sides. Both games got over 21% there and had the two other games fall in percentage big.

This is gonna be a fun match
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:36:34 PM | message detail
lawl last second doom rallying before it's demise into 3rd
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/16/2009 1:36:52 PM | message detail
I see it's close again!

So... what's our explanation for LttP losing the morning to Doom?
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:40:20 PM | message detail
Are all matches going to be that close?It certainly adds to the excitement!Or something like that...
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:40:21 PM | message detail
Haha, Doom's resisting as much as it can before the inevitable. Keep it up!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 1:42:04 PM | message detail
I want DKC to keep making 2 vote cuts

And then for Doom to make a 10 vote 'surge'

And then DKC goes back to cutting 2 votes

Repeat until the match ends

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deadeyedllv | Posted 4/16/2009 1:42:56 PM | message detail
It's pretty much over for Doom. We're not even into the heart of the ASV at it's barely holding on. DKC has this one!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 1:43:50 PM | message detail
Er.. I'd say 4:45 is pretty much the heart of ASV.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:44:33 PM | message detail
Doom =(
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Mithos17 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:44:43 PM | message detail
DKC with the lead! Heck yeah!
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H__RR____H | Posted 4/16/2009 1:45:09 PM | message detail
There's the heart of the ASV.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 4/16/2009 1:45:52 PM | message detail
DK chokes this one away - book it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 1:46:46 PM | message detail
DKC with the advantage, calling this one way or another 100% would be foolhardy considering what we've seen up until this point.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/16/2009 1:47:35 PM | message detail
I know the format is to blame for a lack of excitement, but is there any other reason close matches don't seem interesting anymore? If this were a 1v1 match in 2004, this topic would fill up five times over.

Personally, I blame T3H TRENDS and people being able to call final voting margins with stunning accuracy hours in advance. I miss pre-stats, pre-trend days where you just cheered for your pick and had no real clue what was going to happen next =/
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Starman0 | Posted 4/16/2009 1:48:42 PM | message detail
DKC was winning by a decent margin. Doom came back and then led by a small margin.

DKC is coming back and will lead by a small margin. It just happens, this is how the day effects the vote.

Doom will come back again and have a small margin of lead. Book it.
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