GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 679
| paulg235 | Posted 4/15/2009 9:34:31 PM | message detail |
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And now for a contest stats and discussion topic not made by Ulti. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
| paulg235 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:00:20 AM | message detail |
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I don't really mind who advances with LttP here. I have Doom in my
bracket, but DKC is an awesome game that deserves some spotlight in
these contests. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:00:48 AM | message detail |
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MK2 could upset Sonic 2 if there was another Nintendo option, but there isn't. No, because Sonic 2 would be SFFing MKII just as hard, if not harder then Nintendo SFFing Sonic. Throw Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, and MKII in one poll and Sonic 2 > MKII would still happen. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:01:11 AM | message detail |
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lol at turtle thinknig SoMs strength should be b ased on a sff beat down --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/16/2009 9:02:16 AM | message detail |
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Just to build on from the last topic: SoM > CV3 and Civ, but I doubt
it's affecting Sonic 2...if anybody, it'll affect MK2 by upsetting it
(and that's an upset I'm not crazy about). --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:02:58 AM | message detail |
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DKC has less features than SMB1. DKC was a step backwards while Doom
was a step forwards. DKC was only an achievement for graphics whores. Here's hoping Doom pulls out the win. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:03:11 AM | message detail |
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SoM beating MK2 is much more likely to happen then MK2 beating Sonic 2. At least SoM won't be SFFed to the ground. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:03:12 AM | message detail |
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Seriously, on a Square/Nintendo dominated site, SoM is the only square option on the poll I'd be shocked if it doesnt advance --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| KHRZ | Posted 4/16/2009 9:03:53 AM | message detail |
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If DKC goes out, too bad... but the second game will do better --- SSBB FC: 4640-1011-4754 Name: KHRZ |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/16/2009 9:04:04 AM | message detail |
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SoM's probably not advancing, but it certainly isn't going to be "turbofodder" as BT so lovingly likes to put it. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:04:40 AM | message detail |
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Actual competition? Secret of Mana will be lucky to break 10% there. Secret of Mana > Shining Force II --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: LttP > Doom Points: 25/36 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:04:56 AM | message detail |
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It will be very weak, but I don't think it will end up as fodder. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Yesmar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:05:15 AM | message detail |
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I didn't start gaming until '98, and I liked DKC when I downloaded it for VC. <_< --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:05:31 AM | message detail |
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shining force 2 > CV3/Civ --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:05:50 AM | message detail |
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If Sonic 1 can wreck SF2 easily, Sonic 2 should have no trouble
crushing MK2. Especially since it doesn't have any Nintendo games to
hurt it. SoM has a better chance upsetting Sonic 2 than MK2, even though I don't have faith in either doing so. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:07:02 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, seems like DKC is doing better in the day. lol at Dooms day vote --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:07:45 AM | message detail |
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Wow, out of nowhere DKC goes ape**** on Doom. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:07:59 AM | message detail |
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If Sonic 1 can wreck SF2 easily, Sonic 2 should have no trouble
crushing MK2. Especially since it doesn't have any Nintendo games to
hurt it. SoM has a better chance upsetting Sonic 2 than MK2, even though I don't have faith in either doing so. How does that make any sense whatsoever? --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:08:05 AM | message detail |
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1:00 | 52.86% 2:00 | 54.17% 3:00 | 49.35% 4:00 | 47.22% 5:00 | 44.50% 6:00 | 47.86% 7:00 | 45.87% 8:00 | 46.33% 9:00 | 46.68% 10:00 | 47.73% 11:00 | 47.92% 12:00 | 50.28% Doom is weakening, and we are stalling around a 300 vote lead. Is this the day vote? Or will the ASV bring about a big shift? Stay tuned! Secret of Mana will break 10% with absolute ease. It broke 20% against CT; even if you think there was no SFF there at all, it would still easily break 10% against its pack. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| ImplicitContent | Posted 4/16/2009 9:09:03 AM | message detail |
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DK just unleashed the fury that is his giant ape dick. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:09:35 AM | message detail |
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If Sonic 1 can wreck SF2 easily, Sonic 2 should have no trouble
crushing MK2. Especially since it doesn't have any Nintendo games to
hurt it. That makes sense. I can't believe MK2 > SF2. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:10:33 AM | message detail |
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What's with all the DKC hate =( --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:10:38 AM | message detail |
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Doom Marine trying to defend himself from primate sodomy with a stall! --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:11:40 AM | message detail |
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So have we decided which topic to use? I vote for this one since it was made earlier. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: LttP > Doom Points: 25/36 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:11:42 AM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #022 its a game for graphic addicts --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:12:42 AM | message detail |
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Oh I didn't even notice there were separate ones Just use this one since theres more posts --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:12:45 AM | message detail |
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From: charmander6000 | #024 Plus, more posts and all. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:14:56 AM | message detail |
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Kong's back on the rampage. Marine better sew his ass shut! --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:15:02 AM | message detail |
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I didn't even notice there was another one. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:16:19 AM | message detail |
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Well the other one had more posts until we came along. In other news the ASV is going to decide things here. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: LttP > Doom Points: 25/36 |
| Childproof | Posted 4/16/2009 9:17:41 AM | message detail |
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I'm glad I haven't voted yet... I'll keep if for later in case it gets really important like I did yesterday --- Is GrapefruitKing |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 9:17:59 AM | message detail |
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With Doom having a FF6 style asv in 2004 (lol kefka), I can't see Doom
doing much in it. Its just about how much worse if any DK is during asv. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:22:39 AM | message detail |
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I dunno about those 2004 trends; they are 5 years old, and with a
3-hour time difference that matters a lot more than it looks. Plus,
FFVI wasn't horrible with the ASV back then. The trends from what we've seen in this match so far suggest that Doom will take the ASV. DKC won the first 2 hours big, then fell apart, lost the late night, lost the morning vote, and is now recovering with the DSV. Now where have we seen that pattern before.... That's all assuming there is much of an ASV today, and we're not already in the heart of the day vote. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| Childproof | Posted 4/16/2009 9:24:33 AM | message detail |
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yeah, as weird and unexpected as it is, everything points at Doom winning the ASV almost impossible to call the match now, though --- Is GrapefruitKing Today's prediction: Link to the Past 56.70% - Doom 20.04% - DKC 15.17% - Streets of Rage 8.09%- Status: Good |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:25:07 AM | message detail |
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Marine's firing back! --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 9:31:55 AM | message detail |
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Doom going even in the ASV wouldn't surprise me. DK in general has always had a very uninspiring day vote. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:33:54 AM | message detail |
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Secret of Mana will break 10% with absolute ease. It broke 20%
against CT; even if you think there was no SFF there at all, it would
still easily break 10% against its pack. That was also 2004 were niche RPGs were cool. That is no longer the case, unless you think Xenogears could still beat any Pokemon game. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:34:36 AM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | #025 I never once liked it for its graphics. Ever. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:35:13 AM | message detail |
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The trends from what we've seen in this match so far suggest that
Doom will take the ASV. DKC won the first 2 hours big, then fell apart,
lost the late night, lost the morning vote, and is now recovering with
the DSV. Now where have we seen that pattern before.... Zero, who kicks ass in the ASV. If you are unpopular with the Eurolosers, your morning vote will suck. DKC will decisively win the ASV and make you look like a tool. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/16/2009 9:35:17 AM | message detail |
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That was also 2004 were niche RPGs were cool. That is no longer the
case, unless you think Xenogears could still beat any Pokemon game. There are many people who still think that. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:35:54 AM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #037 It'd probably still beat anything outside of R/B/Y. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:36:19 AM | message detail |
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And trying to base the trends of a well-liked 2-D SNES platformer on an ancient arcade game is ludicrous. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 9:36:49 AM | message detail |
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Secret of Mana would have to have fallen off a very very tall cliff for
it to fail to break 10% against Sonic 2, Mortal Kombat, and whatever
that other game is. It has a far far higher chance of beating MK than
of going below 10%. And this graph, albeit from a summer match, gives you an idea of what DK vs. FPS can look like: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2083&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 Granted, Doom is not Sam Fisher. But DK is also very far from Nintendo's standard of good day votes. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:37:04 AM | message detail |
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When Xenogears fails to break 10% in its match, you will see how wrong you are. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/16/2009 9:38:20 AM | message detail |
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Zero, who kicks ass in the ASV. If you are unpopular with the
Eurolosers, your morning vote will suck. DKC will decisively win the
ASV and make you look like a tool. Awww, is BT sad that DKC might lose? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:39:01 AM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #039 Not as much as you're thinking. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:39:33 AM | message detail |
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I have Doom advancing here, and DKC1 is the worst of the series by far.
These are the cold hard facts. Nothing except unreliable, 5 year old
stats points to Doom doing anything here. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/16/2009 9:39:41 AM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #044 Well, how well it holds up to SFF is irrelevant. R/S/E isn't even loved, but G/S/C is still debatable to me. I'd probably still take it, though. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: LTTP > Doom - Points: 26/36 Vote: DKC! |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/16/2009 9:40:03 AM | message detail |
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #044 Xenogears not breaking 10% together in a match with FF8 tells us nothing, actually --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/16/2009 9:40:16 AM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #046 Enough to beat a dated FPS from 15 years ago. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
