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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 678

red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:16:58 PM | message detail
Doom is falling apart now. Maybe it did win the power hour.
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transience | Posted 4/15/2009 10:18:01 PM | message detail
yeesh. DKC's probably got this.

while we're at it, let's rank the top-tier 8-bit games after round 1

FF1
Mario 3
Mario 1
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Metroid
Pac-Man
Tetris
Zelda 1

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Gaddswell | Posted 4/15/2009 10:18:17 PM | message detail
48 more for DKC with that one.
109 votes in the 15 minutes since the power hour ended.

So how about that SM / SMK / DKC threesome in round 2?
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Tohoya | Posted 4/15/2009 10:19:24 PM | message detail
Woot woot woot DKC

What'd I say about Doom bombing? Man, I'm right so infrequently but oooooooh yeeeeeeah!
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:20:02 PM | message detail
I started doing that and then I realized I had Metroid 1 over MM2/3 and got too depressed to finish.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/15/2009 10:20:47 PM | message detail
Mario 3
Zelda 1
Mario 1
FF1
Metroid
Tetris
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Pac-Man

Still mostly in denial about Metroid having strength in general while Mega Man doesn't (darn you franchise voting).
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transience | Posted 4/15/2009 10:22:16 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if I'd pull the trigger on Metroid over Tetris.. I just can't see it getting 55% in that one poll.

but Tetris is a weird beast anyway. I don't know if you can even make comparisons to Tetris like that since it seems pretty unique.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/15/2009 10:22:19 PM | message detail
What a stupid contest. We finally get DKC in something, and we've got to "speculate" for another five years.

You better open up the next Character Battle to all fictional characters, SB (or risk being called a HYPOCRITE otherwise).
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/15/2009 10:22:26 PM | message detail
A HYPOCRITE.
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MnMZero | Posted 4/15/2009 10:23:05 PM | message detail
Nobody in the mood to talk DKC anymore? Ah well...

*goes to bed*
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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/15/2009 10:23:18 PM | message detail
So how about that SM / SMK / DKC threesome in round 2?

I'm having a lot of trouble seeing DKC drop that match - even if SM and SMK are as strong as I want them to be, DKC's performance this match is just unreal to me.

I guess we'll really see how much SFF exists in this format when we observe if SM can exceed its 2k4 percentage on LttP, at least.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:26:29 PM | message detail
LTTP: 42%
SM: 21%
SMK: 20%
DKC: 17%
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Ngamer64 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:26:35 PM | message detail
Eh, we still have a chance to get plenty more data on DKC. Can it hold off Doom, if so does it hold up better than Metroid and Kart with Zelda in the room, and also how close it can come to Mario RPG in a week.

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MetricTrout | Posted 4/15/2009 10:27:06 PM | message detail
Mario 3
Zelda 1
Mario 1
FF1
Metroid
Tetris
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Pac-Man


Same, but Metroid below Tetris.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:28:30 PM | message detail
Well Doom finally got another cut. The first 15 minutes of this hour were very damaging to it, though.
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MetricTrout | Posted 4/15/2009 10:30:00 PM | message detail
How about this. Rank these SNES midcarders in terms of non-SFFed strength:

Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Final Fantasy 2
Mega Man X
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Super Mario World 2
Super Metroid
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 10:32:54 PM | message detail
Which series is stronger, Megaman or Metroid? Before this contest, I'd have said Megaman and I'm still hard pressed to say otherwise. SMK, not the strongest game from a series Megaman beat easily, just came within 200 votes of beating Super Metroid, the strongest (or at least 2nd strongest if you believe Prime is stronger) Metroid game. That ought to be as valid a comparison as simply comparing Metroid to Megaman games for the purposes of comparing series strength.
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transience | Posted 4/15/2009 10:33:41 PM | message detail
SMK vs. Mega Man 2 -- who wins?

I'd be surprised if anybody said MM2.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/15/2009 10:37:25 PM | message detail
I think tomorrow will tell us a lot about the strength of MM games in general. If the best of the bunch can't beat a 3rd or 4th tier Zelda game...yeah.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 4/15/2009 10:38:38 PM | message detail
I think that's the point of his comparison - that games =/= series (something we should have all figured out after the series contest, but it's a nice recap). We just saw SMK nearly take down what is very possibly the strongest Metroid game, and yet I'd be hesitant to put it over Metroid in a Series matchup.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 11:34:02 PM | message detail
And now Doom is stalling, maybe for real this time. Perhaps it will win EUROPE, and we'll have a match on our hands. Zelda is rising steadily and quickly, and is getting pretty close to 55% already- nice recovery from LTTP.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 11:39:24 PM | message detail
Doom follows up a cut of 9 with a cut of 20. Let's do this.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 4/15/2009 11:47:11 PM | message detail

From: MetricTrout | #366
How about this. Rank these SNES midcarders in terms of non-SFFed strength:

Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Final Fantasy 2
Mega Man X
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Super Mario World 2
Super Metroid


FF2
SMRPG
SM
SMK
DKC
DKC2
SMW2
MMX


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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/15/2009 11:47:42 PM | message detail
God damn, DKC withstanding SFF enough to be leading Doom? Well ****
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/15/2009 11:50:35 PM | message detail
Doom is back in this match. It looks like it's going to take the late night vote, and it may have the lead by morning.
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creativename | Posted 4/15/2009 11:51:18 PM | message detail
Fixed a bug with graphics...I'd changed something before and forgot to change the graphing script as well.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/15/2009 11:51:46 PM | message detail
Just woke up to see... DKC winning? Wha?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 12:05:34 AM | message detail
hmm looking at trends for doom in 2004

this match is over. It couldn't win the day vote over FINAL FANTASY 6.
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red sox 777 | Posted 4/16/2009 12:08:35 AM | message detail
DKC by the Hour:

1:00 | 52.86%
2:00 | 54.17%
3:00 | 49.35%

Let's see if Europe does favor Doom, and by how much.
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Lopen | Posted 4/16/2009 12:15:18 AM | message detail
I'm still hesitant to call this one over. Doom to me screams that it's going to win the casual XBox styled ASV (there seem to be two ASV blocks-- one that favors Nintendo more and one that favors XBox stuff more) over DKC by a decent margin. The morning and part of the ASV goes to DKC, but the later part of the ASV and perhaps the dead hours/during school vote seem like they should go to Doom.

Those Doom trends are 5 years old anyway, I'd be hesitant to trust them for that fact alone.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 12:56:40 AM | message detail
Hm, glad to see Doom finally getting a move on, since it needs to get a lead and hold it during the day if it wants a chance to win.
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Denzokuken | Posted 4/16/2009 1:26:11 AM | message detail
Doom making a match of it now lead is less than 300 votes. DKC has fallen apart and nearly getting cut by Streets of Rage. C'mon Europe vote!
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 1:29:00 AM | message detail
this is so weird

DK is normally best at night but he's the only one going down in percentage now
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Lopen | Posted 4/16/2009 1:32:06 AM | message detail
RAGE and DOOM thriving at night should be expected. The goth scene is so big in Europe and among people up at 4am after all.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 1:51:15 AM | message detail
Just got home from work a bit ago to find DKC over Doom with LTTP in the poll, what?

Who the hell votes for DKC over LTTP?
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greatone10 | Posted 4/16/2009 2:09:31 AM | message detail

From: Chaotic Mind | Posted: 4/16/2009 1:51:15 AM | #385
Who the hell votes for DKC over LTTP?


Those of us with taste, good sir.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 2:10:40 AM | message detail
Those of us who lack taste, good sir.

Fix'd.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 2:10:50 AM | message detail
aka graphic whores imho
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 2:12:41 AM | message detail
hmm looking at trends for doom in 2004

this match is over. It couldn't win the day vote over FINAL FANTASY 6.


FF6 is a top tier game (6th in standings for 2k4 contest, 10th on The List). Of course Doom couldn't win the day vote against it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 2:14:40 AM | message detail

From: Chaotic Mind | #389
hmm looking at trends for doom in 2004

this match is over. It couldn't win the day vote over FINAL FANTASY 6.


FF6 is a top tier game (6th in standings for 2k4 contest, 10th on The List). Of course Doom couldn't win the day vote against it.


Old square is dominant at night and sucks at day. Like Kefka and Crono are among the worst day vote we have.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 2:22:19 AM | message detail
How many times must we make the games =/= characters post?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 2:23:42 AM | message detail
Doesn't change the fact that FF4 had a bad day vote the other day (lost like 1% during the day) and FF6 had a bad day vote in 2004.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 4/16/2009 2:26:35 AM | message detail
Bold Prediction: DKC2 will defy all logic and turn out weaker than DKC1
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 2:27:30 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2867&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

still the funniest FF6 during day match ever
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greatone10 | Posted 4/16/2009 2:28:41 AM | message detail
DKC2 doesn't exactly have to defy logic to be weaker. While it is an undisputed fact that DKC2 is the better game, DKC1 sold better and was much more important historically. Also, DKC1, for better or worse, actually has the title character playable.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/16/2009 2:29:31 AM | message detail
I'd be surprised if DKC2 was stronger. Don't forget DKC was in the bracket to begin with; DKC2 had to be added through board 8.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 2:30:41 AM | message detail
FF6 had a bad day vote in 2004.

Says who? The only two matches with poll updates for it from 2k4 are vs. Doom and LTTP. As you already noted, it beat Doom, and losing the day vote to LTTP =/= having a "bad" day vote.
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Gaddswell | Posted 4/16/2009 2:31:14 AM | message detail
Top tier games are still subject to trends too. They ebb and flow with the night and day as the different demographics get around to voting, hence all that stuff about geolocation.

200 votes to go for Doom. Doesn't look like it'll get the lead before morning comes around though. It's all up to the DSV now.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 4/16/2009 2:33:33 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2867&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

still the funniest FF6 during day match ever


Okay Albion, i've never spoken up in your defense but i'm one of the few people here (that i know of) that doesn't consider you a troll.

You're doing a damn good job of changing my mind. I just posted games =/= characters a few minutes ago.
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