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| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/14/2009 5:06:59 PM | message detail |
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dude. it's Zelda. Unless it's CD-I I'm pretty sure it's going to advance. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:09:32 PM | message detail |
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Link's Awakening is a handheld game (a GBC game, even), and is
extremely obscure (by Zelda standards). Zelda franchise voting is
strong, but there's a limit. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/14/2009 5:09:36 PM | message detail |
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I'm not really sold on Link's Awakening either (though on preference I
go FFVI > LA > MMX > Sonic 2 and I would like to see it win).
Yeah, it's Zelda, but it's very much low tier Zelda. Even if MMX isn't
much better than MM2 or MM3 it's got a chance there, especially with
FFVI soaking up a lot of the vote. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 5:13:20 PM | message detail |
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Link's Awakening is a handheld game (a GBC game, even), and is
extremely obscure (by Zelda standards). Zelda franchise voting is
strong, but there's a limit. Original Game Boy and Game Boy Color (and a million seller on both). And I know we all like to LOL at VGChartz, but it lists both versions as outselling Mega Man X. It's really not that obscure. I'm not sure where such a notion came from. Million seller Zelda. Heck, it was the most recent Zelda for like five years (the only that that bridged the LttP-OoT gap). --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:15:21 PM | message detail |
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| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/14/2009 5:15:38 PM | message detail |
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Do you know how many Zelda fans claim Link's Awakening to be their favorite? Hell I'm sure you can probably pull out some GameFAQs poll that may make LA look like ass, but that doesn't change the fact that it's Zelda and whether you think it's "low tier" or not, it's got a pretty big fanbase. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:15:50 PM | message detail |
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It sold well, but does it get a lot of press? Do people talk about it
as one of the Zelda greats? Is it anything more than a footnote,
overshadowed by the rest of the series? I don't think so. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:16:21 PM | message detail |
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Do you know how many Zelda fans claim Link's Awakening to be their favorite? Very few? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/14/2009 5:17:33 PM | message detail |
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You'd be surprised. I've ran into many a Zelda fan that consider it the best. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:17:46 PM | message detail |
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Hell I'm sure you can probably pull out some GameFAQs poll that may make LA look like ass Since you asked... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1225 No, we haven't had a Favorite Zelda Poll since 2003. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 5:17:55 PM | message detail |
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From: KamikazePotato | #457 It gets fanboy love around here, but you're right. Of course, I think you might be omitting the fact that the series in which it's a footnote is the same series that triples everything not named "Final Fantasy." --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ZFS | Posted 4/14/2009 5:18:09 PM | message detail |
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Can't say I'm sold on Link's Awakening either. It'll may get enough
votes to advance just because it's Zelda, but there's no doubt it's a
low tier Zelda game. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/14/2009 5:19:31 PM | message detail |
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The funniest thing about that poll is the fact it beat Majora's Mask IMO >_> --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:19:34 PM | message detail |
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It gets fanboy love around here, but you're right. Of course, I
think you might be omitting the fact that the series in which it's a
footnote is the same series that triples everything not named "Final
Fantasy." And LA could advance sheerly on franchise votes, yes. However, I just don't think it gets a lot of them. Just like I wouldn't take certain FF games over FF1, I would take the original LoZ (and pretty much all Zelda games) over LA. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:20:14 PM | message detail |
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Majora's Mask was obviously getting OoT'd, but yeah, not a great performance for either of them. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 5:20:45 PM | message detail |
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I'd take MM over any Mega Man game pretty easily. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/14/2009 5:21:46 PM | message detail |
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I mean I'm not gonna be shocked if MMX beats LA, but when you have a
choice between a non joke Zelda and Mega Man on a site like
GameFAQs...you go with Zelda --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 5:21:52 PM | message detail |
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Well yeah, but MM would also beat LA very easily, even without SFF. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/14/2009 5:23:35 PM | message detail |
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I'd expect Zelda strengths to go like: Ocarina of Time Link to the Past Twilight Princess The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask/Wind Waker Link's Awakening Minish Cap/Phantom Hourglass/Adventure of Link/Oracles/(who cares tier) Except for the TP/Zelda 1/MM/WW placement, I think that's pretty set in stone. This is pretty low tier Zelda we're talking about with LA. Now, granted, there's certainly room for LA to beat a Mega Man game, given what we've seen; MM3 currently has 41% or so on FFIV, and that's a fairly low tier Final Fantasy. But if MMX > MM2/3 (which is reasonable) and LA < FFIV (dunno how this shakes out, but that's my intuition), there's a lot of room for MMX as well. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/14/2009 5:27:33 PM | message detail |
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In 2004, the only handheld-game that came from a mega-series here was
FFTA...which was doubled by FFX yet still managed to be indirectly
worth 24.67% on FF7. We know LoZ >= FF here, and I've never heard
LoZ:LA-hate like I've heard FFTA-hate. We remember LoZ quadrupling MMX
in the Series Contest and Link SFF'ing Mega Man in 2004, too. We also
saw MMX bomb in the SNES-VC poll to Nintendo titles like Earthbound and
Super Mario Kart; furthermore, it barely beat FF3/6 despite CT, FF2/4,
Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, and EB being in the poll. Neither
MM2 nor MM3 have impressed to this point, and MMX isn't nearly the
board favorite like MM2/MM3 were this round... ...all things considered, MMX has a very tough battle for second place. There better be a lot more cracks in that argument for LoZ:LA > MMX than "MMX has more ports so of course it didn't do well in the VC-poll." --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:33:07 PM | message detail |
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I think it'll be close. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:36:06 PM | message detail |
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Division 3: Round 1 - Match 9 – Gunstar Heroes vs. Sonic the Hedgehog 3 vs. Super Mario Kart vs. Super Metroid Moltar’s Analysis Gunstar Heroes 2004 Results: Lost in Round 1 against Link to the Past Really fun game. Really weak game. Sonic 3 2004 Results: N/A Should be Sonic 3 + Sonic and Knuckles. Would of won the contest right there. Super Mario Kart 2004 Results: N/A The first entry in the extremely popular Mario Kart franchise Super Metroid 2004 Results: Won in Round 1 against Phantasy Star IV Lost in Round 2 against Link to the Past all hail the queen Wow, this is the most stacked match yet. 3 games that deserve a shot in Round 2, but only 2 will move on. The one that isn’t is Gunstar Heroes. It failed to put up 10% on LttP, and even a SFF-wrecked Super Metroid avoided the tripling from LttP. The other three could place in practically any order. Sonic 3 is old-school Sonic so it shouldn’t do badly, and we’ve already seen Sonic 1 surpass expectations. Super Mario Kart is a popular title and the series continues to remain relevant with casuals today. Super Metroid is arguably the strongest Metroid title. So out of the three games, Super Mario Kart is the game that has the least chance of placing to me. Check almost any poll Mario Kart is in, especially the bigger multi-option ones. It always performs poorly. I think it’s one of those series that people know about and like, but it falters in front of anything that actually has a decent fanbase, which Sonic and Metroid do. So between Super Metroid and Sonic 3, give me the former. There is a possibility that SMK will hurt Metroid, but if that’s the case, Sonic 3 also isn’t getting away from that unscathed. Sonic 3, like 1, should have decent strength, but Super Metroid is just a bit too much for it. Even the 2004 contest (yeah yeah old stuff) favors Super Metroid. SM got 26% on LttP, despite SFF, and that was the 4th strongest game in the Contest. Sonic 2 got 30% on Super Mario World, despite SFF, and that was…not the 4th strongest game. Now throw in the fact that Sonic 2 is a bit stronger than 3 and it looks even worse for Sonic. Hell, SM’s result is even more impressive knowing how badly Metroid usually folds to LoZ. Mario/Sonic is bad too, but LoZ shows no mercy. So yeah, Super Metroid should look pretty good in this match. Super Mario Kart is going to disappoint, and Sonic 3 should do alright. Super Metroid is looking really good as long as it can keep away from Zelda. *checks next match* ‘whoops’ Moltar’s Bracket Says: Super Metroid > Sonic 3 Moltar’s Prediction is: Super Metroid: 39% - Sonic 3: 32% - SMK: 23% - Gunstar Heroes: 6% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Today's the first real match of the contest. The big three games here all have a shot at placing in any order. Before Sonic 1 beat Street Fighter with ease, I think at best this was a fight for second, but afterward, most people will probably go with Sonic 3 in first and either Metroid or Mario Kart in second. But the problem I have with Sonic in this match is that it's up against two other Nintendo games. We know that Sonic is essentially a Nintendo character at this point, and we've seen his games be brutalized by SFF when they run into Mario, so it's not a stretch to expect another Sonic game to be hurt. I don't think it'll be anywhere near as severe, and it'd be doubtful that Sonic doesn't place, but I'm not gonna take him for first here -- instead, a close second. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:36:18 PM | message detail |
| The other big fight here is between Metroid and
Mario Kart. The Nintendo heirarchy goes Zelda > Mario > Metroid,
so depending on how much Mario you think Mario Kart is, you could make
the argument that Metroid will be hurt, and maybe even reversed SFF,
here. I don't think so, though. We haven't ever seen Mario Kart games
before, and I don't have much faith in them being worth much. They're
fun games, but no one is a Mario Kart freak. On the other hand, Super Metroid is adored -- it's one of the highest rated games on the site, one of the highest rated games by critics, and always on reader/professional top 20 lists. It's not going to have a chance to show it here, but Super Metroid is probably a top tier game in this contest. Not up there around the top 10, but I'd put it up around the top 20. The short version -- I think Metroid comes in first and Sonic comes in a close second. Two other Nintendo games in the poll will hurt, though not kill, Sonic enough to keep him from winning. Then Super Metroid being the bigger, more loved game will give it the advantage over Mario Kart, on top of doubts about it having serious strength. Super Metroid -- 35% Sonic 3 -- 33% Super Mario Kart -- 25% Gunstar Heroes -- 7% Bracket: Super Metroid > Super Mario Kart Favorites: Super Metroid > > > the rest Lopen’s Analysis Well I think that the racing LFF comes through here when Sonic collides with Super Mario Kart. The speed freaks are wondering if Sonic is faster than a kart, and then decide to forget everything and vote for Gunstar Heroes, but Gunstar Heroes, being a game abo-- Sorry, I'm just rambling for filler. I suppose this match is debatable, but I'm not seeing it. Super Metroid was a huge SNES game back in the day (see also: THE LIST). Don't let the match with LttP from 5 years ago fool you. Sonic 3, especially being denied the Knuckles cred, should be the weakest Sonic game by a good margin. It sold the worst of the trilogy by far, isn't “the first”, and to my knowledge wasn't bundled with the Genesis in any deals for any long period of time unlike the other two games. Oh, and in a favorite Sonic poll it scraped by Sonic 1 but was trounced by Sonic 2. If nothing else, just think of this like Sonic vs Samus if you must. I don't think many here are humoring taking Super Mario Kart... but in case they are: My intuition when it comes to Mario Kart is “don't trust it when big boys are around.” Take SMK vs Mega Man in the series contest for example: Everything pointed to SMK having a chance there, but Mega Man just manhandled it. I don't think it has the fanbase to stand up against one of the top SNES games or a Sonic game. Lopen's Prediction: Super Metroid – 39.13% Sonic 3 – 32.44% Super Mario Kart – 22.09% Rocket Lawn Chair... hold on, that's not even the right reference is it? – 6.34% Transience’s Analysis Today's match is the first true good match of the contest -- there's three games that could place in any order. This isn't some crappy battle for second place or a match that lets us gauge a game by how much it dominates its competition -- this is just plain unpredictable. This match will probably be over in the first few minutes, but who knows how GF will vote. For starters, we've got two Nintendo games, Super Metroid and Mario Kart. People see Mario and Samus and instantly jump to the worst conclusions. This isn't Mario and Samus though, it's Samus's top game (or at the very worst, second) vs. a Mario spinoff that I don't have a lot of faith in. Metroid won't just fold to anything - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1870 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:37:12 PM | message detail |
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Mario lost twice, and handily. Mario Kart isn't as popular on GameFAQs
as Super Metroid, so I'm not too worried about it. Mario Kart could
surprise -- it is definitely a casual favourite -- but after it lost
handily to Mega Man (who's looked awful since 2006), I don't have much
faith in the spinoff. Plus, it hasn't aged well. Most people these days
think of Mario Kart 64 as the premiere game while Super Metroid and
Sonic 3 are the top dogs of their series. So then, the next question - does Mario Kart hold back Super Metroid? Normally I would say yes. Two Nintendo games on the SNES, both pretty popular. But there's that 2004 match between Mario World and Sonic 2 that lingers - people seem absolutely convinced that Mario World did something to Sonic 2. If this is true, why wouldn't another Nintendo title do something? Plus, Sonic's also got to deal with Gunstar Heroes - not the strongest game ever or anything, but it does have a pretty fanatical Genesis fanbase behind it. Then again, LTTP tore it apart in 2004 so it probably isn't THAT fanatical. Gunstar Heroes should go down pretty easily. So in my mind, any fanbase leeching is minimal. The sheer SNES > Genesis bias on this site should make up for there being two SNES games anyway. This comes down to one thing for me: which series is more popular, Metroid or Sonic? Metroid has looked good this contest and so has Sonic. Samus has always gotten the best of Sonic, especially that 2004 match where Samus just crushed Sonic and never looked back. But that's characters and not games, and Samus has the whole SSB thing and character design going for her. So it's tough to say anything definitively there. I do think this, though: Sonic will struggle when put up against a core Nintendo series. A lot of Sonic's fanbase are Nintendo fans and if you take those away, Sonic's going to struggle. Metroid may not be big enough to qualify as a huge series, but on GameFAQs it should be enough. Plus, Super Metroid finished higher than Sonic 2 on The List despite there being two other Metroid games on the drop-down box. I simply think Super Metroid is more of a fan-fave and I'll leave it at that - this writeup is pure rambling anyway, since I really have no idea what's going to happen! Metroid gets to shine no Zelda to ruin it just Mario Kart transience's prediction: Super Metroid with 39% Sonic 3 with 33% Mario Kart with 22% Gunstar Heroes with 6% Leon’s Analysis Gunstar Heroes: The game got 8.85% on Link to the Past in the first Games Contest. That’s not good, no matter how you slice it. Plus, it’s a Genesis game going up against a Sonic game. Ask Shining Force how that worked out (Hint: Not good). I have Gunstar Super Heroes for my GBA, but I’ve never played it. I should try it out sometime. Sonic the Hedgehog 3: Man, why isn’t this Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Just askin’. Until recently, I’ve thought that Sonic 3 would take advantage of the LFF split between Mario Kart and Super Metroid to take first place. I’ve since reconsidered that decision. For some reason, I just don’t have confidence in Sonic 3 to do it. I’m almost positive Super Metroid is indirectly stronger than Sonic 3, and probably by a decent margin, especially since Sonic has plummeted the last couple of years. Maybe Sonic is up there with Dante with heroes who are just much more popular than their games. I love Sonic 3 and the old Genesis games, so I don’t understand why that is. I figured they’d be more popular than they are (I even had Sonic 2 > Mario World back in the day, darn it!). I still expect Sonic 3 to advance, but I just don’t know if I believe the LFF split will be bad enough for it to get first place. Man, I hate predicting how LFF will or won’t fall. What a pain. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:37:31 PM | message detail |
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Super Mario Kart: Ah, the second best in the series, but still a
blast to play even today. I think Mario Kart 64 beats it in every major
category (except for the rubber band AI, which isn’t really that big of
a deal). Anyway, that’s not what this is about! I’ve been burned on a
Mario Kart upset pick before, but not this time! This is another one of
those games that I don’t understand why it’s not more popular! Nearly
every friend I have in real life who plays games played and loved the
first two Mario Kart games, and even some friends who aren’t gamers
like them! Argh, anecdotal evidence never works out as well as you
think! To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if it managed to beat
Sonic 3 at this point, but that’s more of a negative against Sonic than
anything else. I’ve just come to think that the LFF split between Mario
Kart and Super Metroid won’t be that bad. Just because they’re both on
the SNES and they’re major Nintendo franchises doesn’t mean the LFF
will be bad (Metroid Prime/Wind Waker was what made me rethink my pick
for this match, actually). Regardless, it’s at a disadvantage that I
don’t think it’ll be able to overcome. Super Metroid: darn you tranny for making me consider taking super metroid past the second round. Seriously though, the old Metroid poll suggests that Super Metroid is stronger than Metroid Prime, but I don’t know how credible it is. For what it’s worth, the hierarchies established in these “Favorite game in the series” polls seem to hold up better than the ones in “Favorite character in the series” polls, but I’m just basing this off of a couple of them, really. It could still be wrong. Regardless, at worst, I think Super Metroid would be slightly weaker than Prime, which scored 45% on Wind Waker. Do I think Sonic 3 could ever get that? Not a chance. Even with the LFF, which as I’ve already said I believe will be minor, I think Super Metroid wins. Leonhart’s Vote: Tough choice between Sonic 3 and Mario Kart, but I’ll side with the hedgehog here. Leonhart’s Prediction: Gunstar Heroes – 7.07% Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 29.29% Super Mario Kart – 28.28% Super Metroid – 35.35% Ed Bellis’s Analysis Welcome to the 1992-1994 Division. Given this site’s preference for newer games, it stands to reason that the games should, by and large, be getting stronger as we go, obvious exceptions notwithstanding. Gunstar Heroes. …whoops. Never mind! Gunstar Heroes – assuming you’ve even heard of it – lost horrifically to A Link to the Past in 2004, and it somehow got in again. Add its pathetic strength to the fact that Sonic 3 will likely be GenesiSFFing to hell, and it’s got last place all but wrapped up. Sonic the Hedgehog 3. It’s tough to say what the strongest Sonic game will be, but I honestly think Sonic 3 & Knuckles wouldn’t do that much better – people know the game, the franchise, and the character just fine. Assuming Sonic 3 bombs, I still expect tons of board topics yelling about how the combined games would do much better. >_> Sonic 1 put up impressive numbers in its first match, and I can only assume Sonic 3 will be much stronger. Super Mario Kart. The most influential video game of all time, according to some magazine no one cares about. The original Mario Kart will face particularly strange competition from Super Metroid, another Nintendo-created SNES game. If this were a main franchise Mario game I’d give the edge to it no problem, but it’s not, which poses a dilemma of who exactly will place. Super Metroid. Metroid’s always been on the ass-end of Nintendo SFF, but with the original Metroid beating out Contra even with Zelda 1 in the poll, it stands to reason that Super Metroid – probably the strongest game in its series – can stand up to Super Mario Kart. Of course, this doesn’t take into account Sonic 3’s presence… |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/14/2009 5:38:30 PM | message detail |
| So what do we do here? This is one of the toughest
Round 1 matches to call. I’m going to put Sonic 3 in first solely
because Sonic 1 kicked all sorts of ass and Sonic 3 doesn’t have to
deal with that much fanbase overlap like the other two games have
(Gunstar Herpes or whatever won’t be affecting it all that much). That
leaves the other two games, and I’m gonna take the “safe bet” and go
with Super Metroid to get second. I’m reminded of how Mario Kart lost
to Mega Man in the series contest – it’s easy to get caught in the trap
and assume all Mario games are strong. My bracket may have Sonic 3 >
SMK, but my predictions lie with the mighty Metroid. Prediction: The galaxy is at peace OH CHRIST RED SHELL Gunstar Heroes with 5.68% Sonic the Hedgehog 3 with 43.92% Super Mario Kart with 21.85% Super Metroid with 28.55% Guest’s Analysis - Luis_Sera89 Today kicks off the 92-94 division, and almost certainly the first match of the contest where the occupiers of both 1st and 2nd can and have been viewed as up for grabs. Starting off with the simplest aspect of the match however, Gunstar Heroes is very likely finishing last. Unluckily for it, it finds itself not only in a match with Super Metroid, a similar kind of game, which probably drains a good deal of its support in any normal case, disastrous for a game as niche as it is; but also potentially faces some kind of wacky Sega SFF, if you were to argue such a thing. Even worse news is that it’s Sonic, and fan favourite Sonic 3 at that. GH is probably looking at single digit figures. The top 3 is where it’s at though, and any combination (perhaps other than SMK taking first) seems possible. In indirect strength, the hierarchy is generally deemed to be SM > S3 > SMK, but the potential for SFF is again rearing its ugly head. Sonic has already once showed that although the cast may be faltering in the format, the games are running on pure nostalgia power, the original comfortably despatching SFII in a match in which it entered the underdog. Unlike Sonic 1 though, Sonic 3 finds itself as 2nd favourite behind a whole different breed of game here; Super Metroid, regarded in certain circles as not only the best platformer/shooter of its kind, but indeed the finest example of any 2D game. The big questions are just how much Nintendo juice does SMK sap from Metroid, and whether the arguably bigger franchise name of Sonic takes advantage regardless. I’m going with the opinion that SM’s strength probably holds steady, and that as good as Sonic looked the other day, it was against fodder, fodder and a genre that GameFAQs isn’t crazy about. SMK won’t help, and it’ll bring Sonic closer to Metroid, but it won’t be critical. SMK awakens the nostalgia in all kinds of people, but so do the other two. Order decided, the percentages are quite tricky. GH is low, SMK likely somewhere in the high teens, but where does this leave the other two? Gunstar Heroes – 8.5% Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 34% Super Mario Kart – 18% Super Metroid - 39.5% Crew Consensus: SM > Sonic 3 is the majority, though Ed has Sonic 3 > SM |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/14/2009 5:40:45 PM | message detail |
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Why is it so certain that MM would beat LA? LA sold better, was better
received, and does better in polls on this site. It's also LttP's
sequel, and probably suffered heavy SFF there. Don't say it's weak just because it's a handheld game - after all, look at how well FFTA did, and how much support the Pokemon games are getting. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/14/2009 5:57:18 PM | message detail |
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LA is the Ocarina of Time of Zelda handhelds. Exactly how much that's worth being a handheld and not a console game, I don't know. But with the other 2 Megaman performances, it's not like it has to be super awesome or anything --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/14/2009 5:58:36 PM | message detail |
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Whoops, I meant Majora's Mask by that MM there. >_> --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/14/2009 6:05:53 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, If I had thought about FFTA, I would have taken LA for the upset. Heck, FFTA probably beats Mega Man 3, and LA is definitely more loved than FFTA. How much, I'm not sure, and how much MMX > MM3 I'm not sure on either, but either win wouldn't be a blowout sans SFF. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3 |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/14/2009 6:08:42 PM | message detail |
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FFTA is hardly acceptable proof. its only real competition - no, FFX
should not be taken seriously - is another handheld game of the same
genre. our only real handheld vs. console game match of note is, well,
Pokemon vs. Xenogears. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 6:13:53 PM | message detail |
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Man, this is really a case of looking at things with a hand over one
eye. It's not just console vs. handheld. It's Zelda vs. Mega Man. Zelda vs. Mega Man --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/14/2009 6:15:03 PM | message detail |
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Isn't that looking at things with a hand over one eye already? >_> --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3 |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/14/2009 6:15:09 PM | message detail |
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sure, if you want to throw out everything else, it's Zelda vs. Mega Man. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 4/14/2009 6:18:47 PM | message detail |
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Man, this is really a case of looking at things with a hand over one
eye. It's not just console vs. handheld. It's Zelda vs. Mega Man. Zelda vs. Mega Man Oh! Oh! I know that one! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1352 --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 6:21:26 PM | message detail |
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Actually, it's Zelda vs. Mega Man X. Totally differ- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3279 --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 6:22:17 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | #483 Nope, I don't think so. Apart from Zelda 2, I'd be shocked if any Zelda from the pre-whored out era loses to anything Mega Man. Sig bet. Account bet. Life savings bet. Whatever you want. I'm not trying to be brash or insulting here, but this one just doesn't register in my head. I was shocked to learn MMX was the favorite here, and I'll be even more shocked if it managed to threaten. The only way I go into that match nervous is if MMX gets an amazing pic and Zelda gets 100% Wind Fish'D. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 6:23:40 PM | message detail |
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Whatever you want. I'm not trying to be brash or insulting here, but this one just doesn't register in my head. I felt the exact same way about the possibility of Sonic 1>SFII. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| PhD_inTHC | Posted 4/14/2009 6:24:34 PM | message detail |
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I gotta go with yo here, nothing named mega man is touching a game with zelda in the title. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| creativename | Posted 4/14/2009 6:26:56 PM | message detail |
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I have little faith in Link's Awakening. And MMX should be the strongest Mega Man game. Link's Awakening won't get blown out, and it certainly has a chance, but I think people are overestimating it. Lord knows I've not had much faith in the Mega Man series, but even I have some confidence in MMX. As for this FFTA talk - remember FFTA was not only new, but heavily promoted at the time (I remember seeing tons of commercials for it on ESPN). It'd be well past it's peak nowadays. And Link's Awakening is well past its peak or any particular relevance. Like someone said, it's a footnote. Man, this is really a case of looking at things with a hand over one eye. It's not just console vs. handheld. It's Zelda vs. Mega Man. Zelda vs. Mega Man Well you have your hand over one eye, but I'd say it's probably the wrong eye :) --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 4/14/2009 6:28:31 PM | message detail |
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From: KamikazePotato | #486 Even though Mario is, indeed, SFFing Zelda...Mega Man X is so far ahead that I have to pay attention. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| creativename | Posted 4/14/2009 6:28:39 PM | message detail |
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I was shocked to learn MMX was the favorite here I was pretty surprised to learn this match was debated. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/14/2009 6:29:43 PM | message detail |
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Hm.. Would anyone here consider R/B/Y vs LA a good match? --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/14/2009 6:31:39 PM | message detail |
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I'd take R/B/Y to win that one easily. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 6:32:10 PM | message detail |
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R/B/Y would beat the hell out of LA. I'm taking it semi-comfortably over MM. R/B/Y is a huge exception in handheld games. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/14/2009 6:36:48 PM | message detail |
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I was pretty surprised to learn this match was debated. So was I! And funnily enough, I'm having trouble finding any compelling pieces of evidence other than people telling me I'm not looking at the entire picture. Where's the evidence here? One Pokemon match? You say Pokemon, I say FFTA. They're both weird and old and really shouldn't hold much water five years later. The fact that LA performed really poorly in the favorite Zelda poll? Of course it did; look at the competition. The #2 and #3 games on the site are in that poll, and they also happen to be SFF machines. The original FF and FFII/IV blow similar ass in such polls, but that didn't stop them from having very, very solid performances here. Link's Awakening has a big advantage in sales and a ginormous advantage in name. "Handheld" doesn't nearly begin to counter that, in my opinion. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| plasmabeam | Posted 4/14/2009 6:39:36 PM | message detail |
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Link's Awakening is gonna crush MMX. Get over it. LA is the most
popular non-Pokemon handheld game of the 90s, and it bears the Zelda
name. Over. Done. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 4/14/2009 6:42:10 PM | message detail |
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So it seems to me there are two camps here: 1. The people who think this is a debatable match that could go either way, using logic and poll results to back up their case. 2. The people yelling ZELDA Sorry, but I'm more inclined to side with the former. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/14/2009 6:42:39 PM | message detail |
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ZELDA --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 4/14/2009 6:42:43 PM | message detail |
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ZELDA --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
