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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 675

UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 6:53:58 PM | message detail
Happy belated Easter, stats topic!




~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 4/13/2009 6:59:36 PM | message detail
Happy Easter!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 7:00:43 PM | message detail
Chocolate abounds!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:17 PM | message detail
Round 1 - Division 2: Match 4

Crystalis


lol wut?

Final Fantasy II (IV)

I work with a guy named Bard. He's not that spoony though.

Mega Man 3

Outstanding!

River City Ransom

lol turbofodder

Analysis:

Boring match, the only thing to watch is how close Mega Man 3 gets to FF4, to see if it will be a threat at all next round with Final Fantasy 1 there.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Final Fantasy 4 45%, Mega Man 3 38%, River City Ransom 11%, Crystalis 6%
TuRtLe's Bracket: FF4 > MM3
TuRtLe's Vote: Mega Man 3
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:16 PM | message detail
you know how FF4 was gonna get 50%?
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transience | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:28 PM | message detail
holy mega man
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Childproof | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:31 PM | message detail
wooo MM3
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Today's prediction: FFIV 51.75% - Top Man 32.86% - Barf! 9.37% - Crystalis 6.02% - Status:
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:31 PM | message detail
...Mega Man 3...?
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:51 PM | message detail
fighting for everlasting peace
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SonicRaptor | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:52 PM | message detail
Mega Man 3 has the board vote here.
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Master Moltar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:55 PM | message detail
wow, second unintentional 500 in the past few days

cool stuff
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Match 8 - Bracket: FF4 > MM3 - Vote: MM3 (22/28)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:56 PM | message detail
MM2 hurt by pic confirmed
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 9:02:59 PM | message detail
Woah, nice start for MM3.

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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:02 PM | message detail
...and it quickly drops off.
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greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:03 PM | message detail
MM3 captures the early lead, and loses it immediately!
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:09 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3452&region=ASI

lol FF > SMW, PoP > BT
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: FFII (IV) > MM3 Points: 20/28
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:19 PM | message detail
LETS GO FF2!
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transience | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:28 PM | message detail
this could be a rare three-part pic factor - MM2, MM3 and FF4

but I'm willing to let it play out for a few minutes before saying anything oh hey there we go
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therealmnm | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:33 PM | message detail
Crystalis :( I was one of the few. And that was a legit vote by the way. I love the hell out of that game.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:37 PM | message detail
...so MM3 > MM2?

Wow.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:39 PM | message detail
And man FF2 did get a really bad early vote

But I'm feeling good about MM2 > Tetris!
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greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:43 PM | message detail
This is a good sign for MM3, considering FF4 is the heavy favorite.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:56 PM | message detail
lol at Mega Man 3 dropping like a rock.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:57 PM | message detail

From: Masato_Tanaka | #020
...so MM3 > MM2?

Wow.


No.
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Lopen | Posted 4/13/2009 9:03:58 PM | message detail
I knew this pic change was gonna help MM3 big.

Shame it doesn't look like it'll be holding up though.
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So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better!
FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:04:17 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #012
MM2 hurt by pic confirmed


I wouldn't say that just yet. It's the board vote; I doubt the picture affects the board vote THAT much.
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BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/13/2009 9:04:30 PM | message detail
If Mega Man 3 can stay within 10% of FF4, it still has a great shot at advancing next round.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:04:47 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #026
I wouldn't say that just yet. It's the board vote; I doubt the picture affects the board vote THAT much.


MM2 flopped board vote though.
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greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:04:57 PM | message detail
I don't know, I think MM3 gets really hurt by SMW.
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:04:59 PM | message detail
you know how FF4 was gonna get 50%?

It's almost there.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: FFII (IV) > MM3 Points: 20/28
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/13/2009 9:05:02 PM | message detail
Oh wow, that didn't take long
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:05:26 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #028
MM2 flopped board vote though.


If you wait minutes to vote in the poll, how will a picture change your mind about it? >_>
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BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 9:05:29 PM | message detail
MM3 is going to get smashed by Mario World. Otherwise it would have a shot.

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RockMFR 5 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:08 PM | message detail
43.55% / 42.59%
36.29% / 46.22%


More people had FF in first than SMW. Wow.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:16 PM | message detail
Haven't you guys learned yet to at least wait for the freeze before jumping to conclusions? :P
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Lopen | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:18 PM | message detail
Holy friggin crap one minute I looked they were neck and neck next minute Mega Man is down 4% next minute down over 10%. Never mind, this is about what I was expecting without massive pic advantage.
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So I lost a bet to creativename (yeah...hardly shocking). Like usual, I should've known better!
FACT: Halo 3 was 1000% responsible for Master Chief's boost.
charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:48 PM | message detail
43.55% / 42.59%
36.29% / 46.22%

Final Fantasy was the favourite for first?
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: FFII (IV) > MM3 Points: 20/28
greatone10 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:54 PM | message detail

From: RockMFR 5 | Posted: 4/13/2009 9:06:08 PM | #034
43.55% / 42.59%
36.29% / 46.22%


More people had FF in first than SMW. Wow.


Probably the same damn people that forget about the format every year.
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Donkey Kong Country 2's path to Best Game Ever '09.
vs. Super Mario RPG, Goldeneye, Resident Evil 2. Ugh, my top 3 games in the same match.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:09:05 PM | message detail
Gonna be interesting next update to see where we are.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:08 PM | message detail
It sure would help MM2 out if MM3 jump-started itself here and stops dropping...!
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transience | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:14 PM | message detail
BARF'd
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:25 PM | message detail
oh god

damn you match pic
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charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:35 PM | message detail
RCR broke 10%
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: FFII (IV) > MM3 Points: 20/28
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:46 PM | message detail
haha FF4

yeah its not getting 50%
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 4/13/2009 9:10:59 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3452&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

That Battletoads trend line is absolutely nuts.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 9:11:07 PM | message detail
MM3 lost the board vote what is this I don't even

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MetricTrout | Posted 4/13/2009 9:11:48 PM | message detail
Go Mega Man 3!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:11:49 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #044
haha FF4

yeah its not getting 50%


You're still jumping to conclusions too fast, dude.
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BGE2 - Today: FFIV > MM3 - Points: 20/28 Vote: MM3
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 9:11:51 PM | message detail
I didn't even notice the Barf until you guys brought it up.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 9:12:03 PM | message detail
Obviously Megaman was just teasing us, now he's gonna go in for the kill
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