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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 674
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:20:55 PM | message detail |
But... the picture is hardly noticable. You think voters are looking
closely and going, "Wait, is that the horrible RE box art? No way am I
voting for RE if it has that pic!" *votes MGS* --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 2:21:35 PM | message detail |
Barry + Jill would have likely doubled (TRIPLED) RE's strength, but it
was still up against black text on a white background. MGS's box art
wins the pic battle against nothing. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 2:21:42 PM | message detail |
Pics matter. That pic didn't and if you think it did you're reaching. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 2:22:04 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #350 The picture of Chris from that box art zoomed in has been a joke picture nominee for Resident Evil in the match pic topic. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:22:16 PM | message detail |
"I like the way the MGS logo contrasts against the white background of the box cover" *votes MGS* --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 2:25:39 PM | message detail |
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/residentevilbevel.png are you seriously saying that you wouldn't consider a box art like this a joke? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
trannyscience | Posted 4/13/2009 2:26:38 PM | message detail |
time for some Box Art Factor --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:28:19 PM | message detail |
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/b/b2/Spr04b20.jpg Because you can really tell exactly what Chris's facial expression is in this pic. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 2:28:42 PM | message detail |
Time for THIS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41TAy7RfVI --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 2:30:12 PM | message detail |
The fact is its still a horrible box art. Give it the REmake box art and I doubt it gets as clobbered. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
trannyscience | Posted 4/13/2009 2:31:08 PM | message detail |
come on this can't be serious --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 4/13/2009 2:31:12 PM | message detail |
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/b/b2/Spr04b20.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/residentevilbevel.png You can't see his face clearly at all in the match against MGS, and it takes more than a funny face to be joke-bad anyway. MM2 didn't get joke-votes, and did you see Mega Man? --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:33:32 PM | message detail |
The fact is its still a horrible box art. Give it the REmake box art and I doubt it gets as clobbered. In the same way that a picture of a black Speck of Dust would outform a picture of a grey Speck of Dust, m i rite?! --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:33:43 PM | message detail |
*outperform --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 2:35:16 PM | message detail |
come on this can't be serious Aww, can't I have a little bit of fun before I leave work? --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 4/13/2009 2:37:18 PM | message detail |
jeez guys I remade the RE pic a while ago http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9708/residentevil12bevel.png and the MGS pic too http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9523/mgsbevel.png --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
Tohoya | Posted 4/13/2009 3:02:33 PM | message detail |
There's not enough data to make the judgment that picture plays a large factor in games contests You need evidence to support the claim that pic factor doesn't matter in games contests. I think the default assumption should be that games contests and character contests are similar enough to each other that something like this carries over. Or do I need to pull out polls to convince you that SFF and LFF exist in games contests? I could be misremembering, but I don't remember any terribly bad or awesome pics in games contests to test the hypothesis (no, I don't think RE counts). Well, aside from MM2. So we'll see- though I don't think that MM3 will be sufficient proof of it tomorrow if it does do poorly, since I think that MM3 will be considerably weaker than MM2. We should see pretty close to definitive proof with MM2 in round 2, though. |
ZFS | Posted 4/13/2009 3:06:13 PM | message detail |
Are people really that impressed by FF
today? What were everyone's expectations for this match? FF was never
going to be thrown into the high-20s, early 30s while SMW was hanging
out in the mid-40s. That's either underestimating FF or overestimating
Mario based on the past couple of matches. FF is doing well here,
reinforcing what it did in 2004, but I don't know why anyone would
think that was a fluke to begin with. Unless you think FF1 has this big fanbase that just loves it to death, and isn't fueled mostly by franchise votes, I don't see much reason to believe that FFIV would do the same thing today, if not a bit better. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 3:09:12 PM | message detail |
Well, when I was hyping Zelda 1 > SMW/SM64 before the contest, I
heard a lot of people say they did not expect Zelda 1 to be able to
break 40% on Mario 3 again, much less 43%. And presumably they did not
think FF1 had fared any better (more like a good deal worse) over the
years. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 3:12:05 PM | message detail |
If MM3 were to do better then MM2 with a classic mega man pic, would
ya'll admit that pic factor does play a roll in game contests? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 3:12:41 PM | message detail |
From: transience | Posted: 4/13/2009 2:36:44 PM | #301 I hope you're right for my brackets' sake, but I just have this gut feeling FF1 will SFF 4. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/13/2009 3:14:19 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX Well, MY bracket says MM3 laughs at them both and squeezes out the win. --- Aw yeah. |
Tohoya | Posted 4/13/2009 3:14:37 PM | message detail |
Unless you think FF1 has this big fanbase that just loves it to
death, and isn't fueled mostly by franchise votes, I don't see much
reason to believe that FFIV would do the same thing today, if not a bit
better. As odd as it sounds, I think that different games can benefit more or less from franchise voting. FF1 is the platonic form of FF that doesn't really have anything objectionable about it, and can get votes based on the franchise itself, especially if it gets those iconic sprite pictures that symbolize the entire series. Other games in the series, inasmuch as they evoke specific FF memories, may not be as strong. In other words, I don't think FF1 is the series' floor. I'm not saying, nor do I expect, FFIV to do worse than FF1, but I do think that installments that are specifically hated, like FF2 and FF12, could do worse. |
trannyscience | Posted 4/13/2009 3:16:23 PM | message detail |
I agree with that - it's fully possible that FF1 beats FF4. it's not like FF4 is actually super loved. but I'd roll the dice with the majority of the fanbase siding with it over FF1. my only gripe is when people look at this and say WOW FF4 IS SO SCREWED when FF4 would be doing the same exact thing. --- xyzzy http://i42.tinypic.com/2vbwhn4.jpg |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 4/13/2009 3:18:36 PM | message detail |
From: Tohoya | #367 People judging character coolness or likability on its design is a common-place and reasonable assumption. There's a huge difference between the reasonable proposition that the aesthetics of a character leading to that character gaining or losing fans and thus affecting votes, and the proposition that a picture of a box art over the picture of another box art can lead to someone to vote for a game over another. Character looks cooler - I'll vote for this character and Box Art looks cooler - I'll vote for this game Just seem like 2 radically different scenarios to me. I'm not going to put them together without separate data. Games in general are more well-known than actual characters, and with 4 options to choose from, the "not knowing any of them" possiblity sharply dwindles as well, further reducing the affect pictures may have on this game contest --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
ZFS | Posted 4/13/2009 3:19:34 PM | message detail |
Well, after the past few matches we saw it should have been pretty
clear that wasn't going to be the case. These games will still work
that franchise vote like nothing else when put up against old games no
one really cares for. I think the bigger thing for me in this match is
what SMW's (failing) to do against FF. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
Tohoya | Posted 4/13/2009 3:26:30 PM | message detail |
People judging character coolness or likability on its design is a common-place and reasonable assumption. There's a huge difference between the reasonable proposition that the aesthetics of a character leading to that character gaining or losing fans and thus affecting votes, and the proposition that a picture of a box art over the picture of another box art can lead to someone to vote for a game over another. Character looks cooler - I'll vote for this character and Box Art looks cooler - I'll vote for this game Just seem like 2 radically different scenarios to me. I'm not going to put them together without separate data. Games in general are more well-known than actual characters, and with 4 options to choose from, the "not knowing any of them" possiblity sharply dwindles as well, further reducing the affect pictures may have on this game contest And a picture evoking and reminding people of fond memories spent with the game, as opposed to a weird spaceman thing that makes the game look stupid, I think is more likely to make people vote for the game. I know damn well that seeing the black mage sprite made me vote FF over SMW today, and that the weird pic made me think twice about voting for MM2 despite the fact that MM2 is on my top 10 games of all time list. This is doubly so for the majority of voters who think for all of two seconds before deciding what to vote for. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 3:28:32 PM | message detail |
As far as pics mattering... Today's FF pic made me want to vote for it, despite me liking SMW more by leaps and bounds (then again, I did make the FF pic, so I'm hardly unbiased). --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
ZFS | Posted 4/13/2009 3:42:19 PM | message detail |
The pic can matter, but let's not overstate how much of a difference it makes. Nothing in the contest except for maybe MM2 has really suffered, or benefited, tremendously from a pic. FF has a nice one today, but SMW's isn't any worse. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 5:34:47 PM | message detail |
We've finally got a match over 120k votes.... with 3 and a half hours left to go. People love their FF and Mario. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
Big Bob | Posted 4/13/2009 5:38:46 PM | message detail |
Isn't FFIV one of the more popular FFs? I see it on professional "Best
Games Ever" lists a lot, even if FFVI is more respected than it. Not to
mention the GBA and DS remakes have got to given the game more
notoriety. I wouldn't take it over VI, VII, or X, but I'd easily take it over any other FF game. --- Just say the word and it's bear time! http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=big_bob |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 5:39:53 PM | message detail |
You would take FF4 over FF8? What? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
E_Gadd | Posted 4/13/2009 5:41:05 PM | message detail |
Battletoads back to 13% and SMW over 45% again I see. Looks like 4chan gave up. Surprised to see PoP over 3%! --- Gaddswell |
ZFS | Posted 4/13/2009 5:53:02 PM | message detail |
FFIV is probably ahead of FF1 and FFXII, but FFVIII and FFIX would be
stronger than it. In FFVIII's case, it's probably well above all four
of these, and only behind VII, X, and VI as far as strength goes. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/zk6ct3.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 5:55:57 PM | message detail |
FFVII - - FFX FFVI - FFVIII FFIX - FFIV FF1 FFXII - FFV - FFIII - FFII I'm mostly confident in this. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LordOfDabu | Posted 4/13/2009 5:59:52 PM | message detail |
I always thought FFVIII was hated. Or maybe that's just me that hates it. :P --- Better to ask than to speculate |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 6:00:51 PM | message detail |
FFVIII has some haters, but that doesn't matter nearly as much in 4-ways. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/13/2009 6:01:53 PM | message detail |
In any case, the differences aren't that big (at least past FFVII).
Remember that FF is projected to get 43.7% on FFX in 2004 (standard
2004 stats disclaimer), and there's a lot of other FF games in that gap. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
Xcarvenger | Posted 4/13/2009 6:16:12 PM | message detail |
yessss 0.88% update --- ~~> www.board8.wikia.com ~ The source for all your GameFAQs Contests needs. Condition: Green |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 6:17:37 PM | message detail |
Woo! Our first under 1% update ever! --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 6:17:56 PM | message detail |
Truly a historic moment! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 6:19:29 PM | message detail |
lol 4 votes at this time of day? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 6:20:10 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-08.jpg FFIV looking decent? My awesome MM3 pic got chosen? BARF? Nice, Bacon! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 6:21:52 PM | message detail |
yeah, FF4 isnt getting 50% --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/13/2009 6:22:51 PM | message detail |
...That's decent for FFIV? HM's pic was miles better. <_< The rest look pretty good though. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 6:22:52 PM | message detail |
It's still getting 50%. There's no reason for it not to. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMW > FF - Points: 16/24 Vote: SMW |
charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 6:23:02 PM | message detail |
If FFIV fails to break 50% I'll be more confident in MM2 > Tetris than FF > FFIV --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 4/13/2009 6:23:11 PM | message detail |
Coffee Ninja did the RCR and Crystalis pics. No clue who did FFIV. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 6:23:14 PM | message detail |
Mega Man rides the short bus to school. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 6:23:28 PM | message detail |
From: MarioSuperstar | #396 a crappy pic vs. an awesome pic for MM3? --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |