GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 674
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 7:20:57 AM | message detail |
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Mario World only leads Final Fantasy 55-45 right now. I doubt FF4 could replicate this. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 7:25:00 AM | message detail |
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Plugging in raw stats, you get this: Super Mario World 52.92% 39,765 Final Fantasy 1 47.08% 35,375 TOTAL VOTES 75,140 Today it's 55-45, so not too big a difference. I'm guessing Chrono Trigger is responsible for that 2% overrating. If SMRPG ends up stronger than originally thought, RE2 could be in some trouble. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 7:32:50 AM | message detail |
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I took FFIV without much thought. We've never really gotten to see it
in the absence of the other FF games. I have no doubts that it could
have done the same thing that FF1 did if it were given the opportunity.
Plus, I think FFIVDS actually makes a difference, unlike the average
port. Also, I took FFIX > HL and FFXII > HL2 without much thought (literally, I didn't think much about it). Really, seeing how well FF1 did in 2004 makes me think the FF name in general holds strength. It's not like we have a ton of data indicating that HL is strong enough to hold up against a big-name franchise like Final Fantasy. We have exactly one contest poll involving Half-Life, and it got 43% on Metroid Prime one-on-one. Not too shabby, but not mind-blowing. I guess it did beat out FFXI in the 2004 GotY poll, but that's not saying much. My point is I'm not automatically giving HL and HL2 the benefit of doubt unless there' s something that I've missed? Otherwise, all indicates that there's a decent Half-Life fanbase on this site, but it's not large enough to make HL a lock in those two matches. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 7:37:24 AM | message detail |
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I'm guessing Chrono Trigger is responsible for that 2% overrating. Can't 2% just easily be anything else here? --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB3 > Simcity - Points: 14/20 Vote: SMB3 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 7:41:12 AM | message detail |
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You know, the nice thing about this match is that it makes Zelda 1 >
SMW/SM64 look pretty good. It was already stronger than FF1 back in
2004, and I really doubt the Zelda series would have beaten the FF
series then. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 7:49:54 AM | message detail |
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Wait, what? I wouldn't take Zelda 1 over either of those games. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 7:54:37 AM | message detail |
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He means Zelda 1 getting to the final 8. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 7:59:51 AM | message detail |
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I guess seeing SM64 threw me off. I don't have SM64 getting through FFVII/CT/GoldenEye. Maybe if Goldeneye wasn't there... --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:06:02 AM | message detail |
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You know tomorrow isn't going to give any information of whether or not FFIV has strength apart from MM3 out right beating it. I also believe that MM2's performance is being overrated. Before the Tetris match I had it getting 38%. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 8:06:13 AM | message detail |
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If Goldeneye wasn't there, Mario 64 would be a lock for second place. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:10:45 AM | message detail |
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Mario 64 would be a lock for second place. I'm not sure about a lock. As far as I'm concerned, I think it's likely to be a close match. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB3 > Simcity - Points: 14/20 Vote: SMB3 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/13/2009 8:12:05 AM | message detail |
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I'm wondering if Goldeneye actually won't hinder Mario 64, and will
either get beat into the ground or there will be minimal SFF. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 8:13:32 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't say it would be a lock either. CT held up pretty damn well
to FFVII. I definitely feel that Mario 64 has been underrated in this
topic, but I don't think it gets out of that one. Unless things have
significantly changed around here, we're still talking about a Top 3 or
4 game on this site in CT. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/13/2009 8:14:57 AM | message detail |
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True, but 60-40 on FFT leaves a lot of wiggle room for Mario 64. But it's a moot point given Goldeneye, plus CT already SFFing SMW once. --- .,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. Now Playing: Etrian Odyssey 2, Devil May Cry |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 8:16:19 AM | message detail |
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I actually debate Mario 64/Goldeneye in my head a lot. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMB3 > Simcity - Points: 14/20 Vote: SMB3 |
| voltch | Posted 4/13/2009 8:18:50 AM | message detail |
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wow,prince of persia....................damn. --- Pearl FC:3953 0978 7217 *Shakes Fist* |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:22:16 AM | message detail |
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There's no proof that CT SFF SMW I'm guessing Chrono Trigger is responsible for that 2% overrating. That could be explain by random variation, it's been five years since the last contest or Final Fantasy's franchise votes being weaker because of more competition (if you can call Battletoads and PoP competition) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 8:41:54 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I don't know how much you're trying to put up SMW. Both SMB3 and
SMW went up against CT, and SMB3 outperformed it significantly. And I
don't buy any Same-Console argument either. SMB3 and SMW were much
closer in release than SMW and Chrono Trigger, plus you have to account
for Super Mario All-Stars. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| ImplicitContent | Posted 4/13/2009 8:43:53 AM | message detail |
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If you want to call SFF in CT/SMW you may as well just call SFF in every match we've ever had. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| shadow8021 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:49:35 AM | message detail |
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Look at these votals. Thanks, 4chan! --- 2008 Hickory Cross Country Becoming One |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 4/13/2009 8:50:46 AM | message detail |
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Try thanks having a match with more than one game people give a crap about. --- Kleenex...at work! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:56:21 AM | message detail |
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Oh, I actually did mean Zelda 1 > SMW and SM64 1v1. I've been hyping
that upset for a while, and today's match makes me feel good about it,
as FF's 2004 strength was validated, indicating Zelda 1's 43% against
Mario 3 was no fluke either. I suppose it is a good sign for the
Mario/Mario/Mario/Zelda match too, if it happens. I wouldn't take Mario
64 over CT now even with FFVII there and without Goldeneye; adding
Goldeneye makes it a near-lock. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 8:57:32 AM | message detail |
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Since 4chan interfered the projected vote totals are a bit wonky. We are heading for about 139k. Ignoring the first 3 hours puts us at around 130k --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 8:58:29 AM | message detail |
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Zelda should have been an easy pick in such a scenario, but this match
also makes it seem like three Mario games aren't going to be there. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:01:52 AM | message detail |
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By easy, do you mean Zelda advancing or taking first? That's what I
have, and it's a rather taller order, though triple LFF is a very
strong force. But yeah, I think I rather regret taking SMB3 > SMW
> FF4 > SF2 right now. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:05:07 AM | message detail |
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Yup my entire first quarter is going to have to depend on SMW > MM3 next round. My bracket is about as good as dead. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 9:06:09 AM | message detail |
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Taking first. We're looking at a situation right now Zelda may be
stronger than Mario 1 and Mario World anyway, and I know that Nintendo
SFF typically affects everything regardless of series, but when voters
see three Marios and one Zelda, that's bound to make a difference. And I've got a very risky division pick in FF4 > SMB3, but if I could stick with that or have both Marios advancing, I'd leave it unchanged. It's harder to imagine World making it through now, especially if FF4 turns out to be indirectly stronger than the original. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Yesmar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:09:36 AM | message detail |
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I think these arguments for CT SFFing Super Mario World are really
stretching, to say the least. Final Fantasy has a lot of reason to fall
off since '04, and I would be quite surprised if it hadn't. 20 year
olds still care about Super Mario World to some extent due to all its
very successful rereleases, and a greater probability that they owned a
SNES. 20 year olds do not care about the original Final Fantasy,
although I'm totally with Ulti on FF1 being indirectly more popular
than FFIV, although I think FFIV takes it head to head. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 9:11:58 AM | message detail |
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I'm not sure why we even need that theory. Is it because Mario World
looks too weak relative to Mario 3 or something? If that's the case and
we need a theory to explain it (other than it simply being true), I'd
believe a Mario 3 overperformance after CT crushed the hearts of
Nintendo fans in the LttP match way before I'd believe CT/SMW SFF. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| creativerealms | Posted 4/13/2009 9:13:31 AM | message detail |
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Well FFIV will look stronger then it really is tomorrow as it's not really going up against a really powerful group. --- contest stats 22/24 Today Final fantasy> Super Mario World (it's a mistake) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 9:14:08 AM | message detail |
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What the heck Battletoads. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMW > FF - Points: 16/24 Vote: SMW |
| red sox 777 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:21:10 AM | message detail |
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Just give up already, 4chan! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/13/2009 9:26:08 AM | message detail |
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Is there a chance SMB1 is stronger than World? --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 10:23:28 AM | message detail |
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Probably not, SMB may have impressed, but that was more because of its opponents rather than its true strength. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 4/13/2009 10:28:09 AM | message detail |
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Probably not, SMB may have impressed, but that was more because of its opponents rather than its true strength. I wouldn't bet money on that reasoning if I were you. At least wait until next round. Holy crap PoP. What the hell? --- ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'. - Topaz Kitsune Believe it or not, the Internet is serious business - Biolizard28 |
| MnMZero | Posted 4/13/2009 10:29:55 AM | message detail |
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I think I underestimated how well the original LoZ did back in 2004.
For some reason I was thinking SMB3 60-40'd it. That might be the death
of my bracket, as whether we have 2 Zelda games or 2 Mario games the
following round is huge. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 4/13/2009 10:33:28 AM | message detail |
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Indirectly, I wouldn't be surprised if Mario Bros. had strength
rivaling Mario World (or hell, even Mario 3). In a direct match,
though, I'm confident it would cave to either of those games. The
fanbase knows they're superior platformers. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 10:35:19 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't bet money on that reasoning if I were you. At least wait until next round. SMB couldn't SFF Duck Hunt worse than LoZ did in 2004. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/13/2009 10:37:00 AM | message detail |
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LoZ never faced Duck Hunt. It faced Donkey Kong, and whether SFFing
Donkey Kong worse than SFFing Duck Hunt matters is still debatable. --- *is Dranze* BGE2 - Today: SMW > FF - Points: 16/24 Vote: SMW |
| Silverflash-x | Posted 4/13/2009 10:38:50 AM | message detail |
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Wait, I'm confused. What's the general board consensus on the
FF7/SM64/CT/Goldeneye match? I have FF7 > CT, but looking back on it
this seems like a stupid pick. --- Q. If your canoe is in a tree with its headlights on, how many pancakes does it take to get to the moon? A. None. Snakes don't have armpits. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 10:39:05 AM | message detail |
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Aww... PoP is almost to 4% --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 10:48:41 AM | message detail |
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We're finally getting some good votals; we might get over 130k today.
Right now we're 11k infront of where we were in yestedays match at this
time. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/13/2009 10:53:35 AM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy is 0.20% away from getting the highest percent for second place. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: SMW > FF Points: 16/24 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 4/13/2009 10:53:36 AM | message detail |
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Indirectly, I wouldn't expect FFI's and FFIV's strength to be that far
apart. Directly though, I can't see a majority of the FF fans siding
with the original. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 10:55:03 AM | message detail |
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If anything, FF1 is stronger indrectly. No way can I see FF4 doing this well. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| BDawg | Posted 4/13/2009 11:02:26 AM | message detail |
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There's something to be said for the classic sprites in the original,
especially white and black mages. Way more recognizable than anything
FF4 can produce (except chocobo!), but who knows what will be in the
next round pics. --- Should I start running now? |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 11:03:30 AM | message detail |
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epic rydia boobs --- http://card.mygamercard.net/nxe/albion+hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/13/2009 11:30:32 AM | message detail |
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Don't forget FF4 is Bacon's favorite game, so he may rig the pic to be in FF4's favor. I'm thinking FF4 will beat FF1. Somehow I feel more people have played FF4, and FF4 is a much more accessible game than FF1 which hasn't aged that well even when you count the remakes. I just don't see franchise alone affecting the vote when the only difference between the two is a number. Of course, I have no clue how close it'll be. FF might hold it close or even pass FF4, or it could get SFFed to single digits. Guess we'll have to see next round. --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 4/13/2009 11:32:38 AM | message detail |
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Don't forget FF4 is Bacon's favorite game, so he may rig the pic to be in FF4's favor. "epic rydia boobs" --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/blue/Albion+Hero.png http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/378/86b7a0dada9b6d09cd92aaaa2fed5c0f425774f6.gif |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 4/13/2009 11:34:37 AM | message detail |
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Hell, will the pic factor be more important in a match like FF1/FF4,
where two games are (probably) close together indirectly and share a
very similar fanbase? People may be torn until they see the pic, which
helps them influence their decision. Is this theory bunk, or is there something to this? --- http://gamebros.smackjeeves.com/ http://l33trappacat.smackjeeves.com/ |
